Hyrule Kingdom map

[Legendary Slyther]

As I begin to make a huge mod, such as this I'm about to release, I begin to gain strength to make even more mods. My power is resonating, and I will finish this mod project with all the energy I got, whether I'm doing this with, or without your help. This will be a copy of Twilight Princess almost, with exactly the same characters, and same places. Now this seems much better than simply renaming them. My skills with CS are maxed. It begins a new age of Hyrule in Oblivion! I know this has been a moment you all been waiting for, and I'm about to grant your wish. But, be warned though. What you're about to see in this mod has nothing compared with the quests in the original game. I will plan to make an epic storyline, even with the old characters in TP, and I'm about to make new ones. Your will is my strength. If you have any ideas, let me know! :)

 

To assist me with this project, I will need 2 people. Anyone else who exceeds the limit with this work will be given credit for a bonus. One that can make textures, and the other who can rig my 3DS Max models. I can only make weapons, but the armor is too complex. Whoever handles my 3DS models must also know how to rig it in NifSkope.

 

 

 

 

http://www.tesnexus.com/imageshare/images/511977-1194396656.jpg

[Legendary Slyther]

Firstly: December!? For a project this size? You do know, don't you, that Project Serpent, which had a team of 20-30 odd people, was a WIP for well over a year, before it was canceled. We'd barely finished the first town, let alone the entire world. How do you expect to get this done, on your own, in less than two months? You're either hopelessly optimistic, or quite mad.

 

Secondly: This is illegal. It is a breach of copyright laws, and if you released it, and Nintendo found out about it, you could have a lawsuit on your hands. A lawsuit which you would lose. If you don't believe me, look what happened to MEMod.

 

Those two points aside, this sounds like a great mod, good luck! :)

 

Yes, I agree, but that's ONLY if I steal Nintendo property and making profits off of it. Where's your thinking cap??

If I use different names, then they can't do anything about it. Ideas are fine, so I highly suggest you look for it in the copyright laws, and you tell me if borrowing ideas are illegal.

[TheTerminator2004]

Only a few inches smaller than Cyrodiil!? Projects Serpent's first release was to be a worldspace about a quarter of the size of Cyrodiil... like I said, even after well over a year, we'd barely finished the fist town. It IS that big- no mod for Oblivion including a worldspace that large has ever been completed. EVER.

 

Now, read this pinned thread. Hopefully, that'll knock some sense into you.

 

Now, about the copyright issues... so long as you don't release it to the public, that's fine- feel free to make it. But if you do plan to release it to the public (Which I'm guessing you do), then it will be illegal, and Nintendo WILL act accordingly. Even if the map is completely different, having people, names, places, etc, is still against the law. MEMod was just having fun; in fact the entire point of it was that it was a tribute to Tolkien and the fantastic world he created. But did the lawyers care? Of course not- so they made it clear that if it did continue, then there would be consequences.

 

Then again, a project that size will almost certainly fail, so I doubt it'll reach the stage where Nintendo will feel the need to take action- it'll be long dead.

[Legendary Slyther]

Only a few inches smaller than Cyrodiil!? Projects Serpent's first release was to be a worldspace about a quarter of the size of Cyrodiil... like I said, even after well over a year, we'd barely finished the fist town. It IS that big- no mod for Oblivion including a worldspace that large has ever been completed. EVER.

 

Now, read this pinned thread. Hopefully, that'll knock some sense into you.

 

Now, about the copyright issues... so long as you don't release it to the public, that's fine- feel free to make it. But if you do plan to release it to the public (Which I'm guessing you do), then it will be illegal, and Nintendo WILL act accordingly. Even if the map is completely different, having people, names, places, etc, is still against the law. MEMod was just having fun; in fact the entire point of it was that it was a tribute to Tolkien and the fantastic world he created. But did the lawyers care? Of course not- so they made it clear that if it did continue, then there would be consequences.

 

Then again, a project that size will almost certainly fail, so I doubt it'll reach the stage where Nintendo will feel the need to take action- it'll be long dead.

 

I understand that, and I know what the pinned topic says. I'm not that stupid. What you're saying is negative. Why? Because if you're like borrowing an idea from Nintendo, that's fine, but don't make it the same name. If I'll release it into public, then I must host this mod without actually selling as a product. It's free to play anyway. The idea Hyrule is NOT under copyright law. If I'm selling any material Nintendo made, then it's illegal, and that's when Nintendo will start losing money, and even fans. So I think you're the one who doesn't quite get the point of copyright laws.

[TheLastIstari]

Truth be told, stuff like this is actually fanart. So Nintendo is contradicting themselves all the time.

 

So Nintendo, if this is illegal, then so is drawing pictures of Nintendo characters.

 

Maybe you could give it out to people who ask? Or at least say it's dead and work on it. I mean, it does not seem all that fair that you're dangling it above our heads, telling us what you're doing with it, then going "Haha, you can't have it".

 

But that is just my opinion.

[Legendary Slyther]

Truth be told, stuff like this is actually fanart. So Nintendo is contradicting themselves all the time.

 

So Nintendo, if this is illegal, then so is drawing pictures of Nintendo characters.

 

Maybe you could give it out to people who ask? Or at least say it's dead and work on it. I mean, it does not seem all that fair that you're dangling it above our heads, telling us what you're doing with it, then going "Haha, you can't have it".

 

But that is just my opinion.

 

Well, I'm a bit nervous about what the consequences are. I'm just trying to avoid going to court. Maybe I can give it only to people who ask, but I'm not gonna publish it. I thought they wouldn't care. I'm a huge fan of Nintendo, but I don't want me and the company itself to turn into enemies. But, yes I can try to e-mail it to you, but it's not finished. Plus, if I used exactly the names and property, then it's illegal. This is actuallly gonna get published, but the materials in the pics do not belong to Nintendo.

[Suzarn]

It is legal if you recreate everything yourself or use material already in Oblivion. Textures, Meshes, etc.

Even if it looks exactly like the original Zelda games, it doesn't matter.

You would not be using any material Nintendo created.

You would only be copying their idea (Hyrule), which is not protected under copyright law. http://www.copyright.gov/help/faq/faq-protect.html#idea

The names however are trademarks and are protected.

If you don't use the name "Hyrule" or "Zelda" or anything related to it, there isn't anything Nintendo can do.

So call it Hyrool or some variation in spelling if you really want to release this.

However, if you plan on making any quests, if the scripts(text) are identical to the scripts in the Zelda games, this may or may not fall under the publication aspect of the copyright law.

 

Don't let people like terminator, who almost always seems to post something negative, scare you into quitting.

Do a little research for yourself. Look it up on the net, ask a lawyer, go to your local courthouse and pick up a law book. The first and last are free. I'm sure a lawyer will charge you for their time. But anyway, don't give up so easily.

[Legendary Slyther]

It is legal if you recreate everything yourself. Textures, Meshes, etc. Even if it looks exactly like the original games it doesnt matter.

Youre not using any material Nintendo created to modify another game.

You would only be copying their idea (Hyrule), which is not protected under copyright law. http://www.copyright.gov/help/faq/faq-protect.html#idea

If you dont use the name "Hyrule" or zelda or anything related to it, there isnt anything they can do.

So call it Hyrool or some variation in spelling if you really want to release this.

 

Dont let people like terminator, who almost always seems to post something negative, scare you into quitting.

Do a little research for yourself. Look it up on the net, ask a lawyer, go to your local courthouse and pick up a law book. The first and last are free. Im sure a lawyer will charge you for their time. But anyway, dont give up so easily.

 

Oh! Now I understand now. I don't know him well, and I only first met him. I wasn't really quite sure, because I never done borrowing ideas from Nintendo before, or went into court, so I proceeded with caution.

[TheTerminator2004]

READ THIS POST!

 

What is it, you ask? It is an announcement that a mod project, using completely original meshes, textures, sounds, etc, that was intended as nothing more than a tribute to Lord of the Rings, and was harming no one, has been shut down, because if it was released, then EVERY team member would have faced a lawsuit, for copyright infringement.

 

So, unless you change the names of every place, and make it look completely different to Hyrule, or anything else from the Zelda series, then it will be illegal. And as doing that would rather defeat the point, as it wouldn't be a Zelda mod anymore, this project won't work.

 

You may be able to get away with what AME did, and say that anyone who made a few posts on their forums had contributed to the project, and were thus allowed to have a copy, but I doubt it...

[Suzarn]

I don't need to read a post about someone who was obviously breaking the law to know the law. That is what law books are for.

The names only need be changed. Not the look. Which I already pointed out in my last post.

It is not illegal to mimic.

 

Companies have been getting away with this sort of thing in their advertisements for a very long time.

A recent sub commercial I saw is a good example. I think it was from Quiznos. It shows a guy from "Wrongway" making subs, his uniform is very close to, but not exactly like Subways uniform, the menu, everything is very close, but not exact.