dionnal2 Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 (edited) Hello, Please help.I am having issue to start up oblivion. My computer is a real gaming rig, therefore, no issue about that. I looked everywhere and nobody seem to have the same problem. You see, I installed a few mods today and everything was running fine. I closed the game about 2 hours ago and now it won't open up. So what I did is I deactivated each mod one by one systematically, including the official dlc, and apparently, it the fighter stronghold(battle horn castle) who is causing the problem. When I deactivate it I can start the game but I can't load it because I was in the battle horn castle when I left earlier and I don't want to screw up the game. I was in the training room if it is relevant. In any case, my only option right now is to restart the game and play without the dlc, which bothers me. Also I installed boss which doesn't start up either and says it cannot find the oblivion master file but it is there.Anyone has any suggestion? It would really be appreciated. I already tried to reinstall the game. It didn't changed anything. Dionnal2 If needed - Here is the list of mod/dlcs/expansion I am using:Shivering isles,All the official dlc's,Unofficial oblivion patch,Midas magic spell of aurum,Noble armory,Facial textures by enayla,Natural faces,Natural environment 2.1,saddlebag,sky castle,borderless cyrodil,(currently unactive)Elven map redux,darnified UI 1.3.2,Quralt tp3,New_Horse_Armor_Texture_Pack_by_Zira,OBSE, Edit: Ok I fixed the BOSS issue. It was in the wrong directory that all. I am still clueless about the game not launching thought.This is BOSS log:−Summary No change in recognised mod list since last run. Mods sorted by your userlist are counted as recognised, not unrecognised, plugins.Number of recognised plugins:21Number of warning messages:0Number of unrecognised plugins:2Number of error messages:0Number of ghosted plugins:0Total number of messages:24Total number of plugins:23−Userlist Messages No valid rules were found in your userlist.txt. −Recognised And Re-ordered Plugins Oblivion.esm Unofficial Oblivion Patch.espVersion 3.2.0 Note: Use Standalone MOBS if using Frans or OMOBS if using FCOM/OOO. Both versions can be found here: http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=28537 Note: Recommend installing UOP Supplemental for additional fixes: http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=27710 Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Actors.ACBS, Actors.AIData, Actors.AIPackages, Actors.CombatStyle, Actors.DeathItem, Actors.Stats, C.Climate, C.Light, C.Music, C.Name, C.Owner, Creatures.Blood, Delev, Factions, Invent, NPC.Class, Names, Relations, Relev, Scripts, Stats}} and remove [C.Water] tag(s) (only exist in older version). Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp DLCShiveringIsles.esp Note: If using the russian GOTY edition, move this plugin before 'Unoffical Oblivion Patch.esp' to allow the UOP to make its quest fixes. See infoRUS (http://u.to/0rwuAQ) Natural_Weather_by_Max_Tael.esp Note: Original mod is heavily bugged. Make sure you are using Ryu Doppler's fixed version. Natural_Weather_HDR_by_Max_Tael.esp Note: Original mod is heavily bugged. Make sure you are using Ryu Doppler's fixed version. Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp Natural_Water_by_Max_Tael.esp DLCHorseArmor.esp Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Scripts}} Contains dirty edits: 3 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES4Edit cleaning: http://cs.elderscrolls.com/constwiki/index.php/TES4Edit_Cleaning_Guide DLCOrrery.esp Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Actors.AIPackages}} Contains dirty edits: 11 ITM, 2 UDR records. Needs TES4Edit cleaning: http://cs.elderscrolls.com/constwiki/index.php/TES4Edit_Cleaning_Guide DLCVileLair.esp Contains dirty edits: 26 ITM, 1 UDR records. Needs TES4Edit cleaning: http://cs.elderscrolls.com/constwiki/index.php/TES4Edit_Cleaning_Guide Incompatible with: 'Kumiko Manor' DLCMehrunesRazor.esp Contains dirty edits: 21 ITM, 15 UDR records. Needs TES4Edit cleaning: http://cs.elderscrolls.com/constwiki/index.php/TES4Edit_Cleaning_Guide DLCSpellTomes.esp Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}} Contains dirty edits: 40 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES4Edit cleaning: http://cs.elderscrolls.com/constwiki/index.php/TES4Edit_Cleaning_Guide DLCThievesDen.esp Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: C.Name, C.Light, Actors.ACBS, Actors.AIPackages, Actors.Stats}} Contains dirty edits: 5 ITM, 135 UDR records. Needs TES4Edit cleaning: http://cs.elderscrolls.com/constwiki/index.php/TES4Edit_Cleaning_Guide SkyCastle.esp DLCBattlehornCastle.esp DLCFrostcrag.esp Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: C.Name, C.Owner, Factions}} Contains dirty edits: 73 ITM, 94 UDR records. Needs TES4Edit cleaning: http://cs.elderscrolls.com/constwiki/index.php/TES4Edit_Cleaning_Guide Knights.esp Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Actors.AIPackages, Factions, Relations}} Contains dirty edits: 121 ITM, 257 UDR records. Needs TES4Edit cleaning: http://cs.elderscrolls.com/constwiki/index.php/TES4Edit_Cleaning_Guide Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp Note: Put before Unique Landscape mods to return tree sizes there to normal. Borderless_Cyrodiil-3578.esp Note: Use .ini tweak or Wrye Bash Bashed Patch tweak instead where possible to avoid conflicts. MidasSpells.esp Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Invent}} −Unrecognised Plugins Reorder these by hand using your favourite mod ordering utility. SaddleBag.esp NobleArmory.esp Edited September 23, 2011 by dionnal2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dionnal2 Posted September 23, 2011 Author Share Posted September 23, 2011 Hello, Please help.I am having issue to start up oblivion. My computer is a real gaming rig, therefore, no issue about that. I looked everywhere and nobody seem to have the same problem. You see, I installed a few mods today and everything was running fine. I closed the game about 2 hours ago and now it won't open up. So what I did is I deactivated each mod one by one systematically, including the official dlc, and apparently, it the fighter stronghold(battle horn castle) who is causing the problem. When I deactivate it I can start the game but I can't load it because I was in the battle horn castle when I left earlier and I don't want to screw up the game. I was in the training room if it is relevant. In any case, my only option right now is to restart the game and play without the dlc, which bothers me. Also I installed boss which doesn't start up either and says it cannot find the oblivion master file but it is there.Anyone has any suggestion? It would really be appreciated. I already tried to reinstall the game. It didn't changed anything. Dionnal2 If needed - Here is the list of mod/dlcs/expansion I am using:Shivering isles,All the official dlc's,Unofficial oblivion patch,Midas magic spell of aurum,Noble armory,Facial textures by enayla,Natural faces,Natural environment 2.1,saddlebag,sky castle,borderless cyrodil,(currently unactive)Elven map redux,darnified UI 1.3.2,Quralt tp3,New_Horse_Armor_Texture_Pack_by_Zira,OBSE, Edit: Ok I fixed the BOSS issue. It was in the wrong directory that all. I am still clueless about the game not launching thought.This is BOSS log:−Summary No change in recognised mod list since last run. Mods sorted by your userlist are counted as recognised, not unrecognised, plugins.Number of recognised plugins:21Number of warning messages:0Number of unrecognised plugins:2Number of error messages:0Number of ghosted plugins:0Total number of messages:24Total number of plugins:23−Userlist Messages No valid rules were found in your userlist.txt. −Recognised And Re-ordered Plugins Oblivion.esm Unofficial Oblivion Patch.espVersion 3.2.0 Note: Use Standalone MOBS if using Frans or OMOBS if using FCOM/OOO. Both versions can be found here: http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=28537 Note: Recommend installing UOP Supplemental for additional fixes: http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=27710 Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Actors.ACBS, Actors.AIData, Actors.AIPackages, Actors.CombatStyle, Actors.DeathItem, Actors.Stats, C.Climate, C.Light, C.Music, C.Name, C.Owner, Creatures.Blood, Delev, Factions, Invent, NPC.Class, Names, Relations, Relev, Scripts, Stats}} and remove [C.Water] tag(s) (only exist in older version). Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp DLCShiveringIsles.esp Note: If using the russian GOTY edition, move this plugin before 'Unoffical Oblivion Patch.esp' to allow the UOP to make its quest fixes. See infoRUS (http://u.to/0rwuAQ) Natural_Weather_by_Max_Tael.esp Note: Original mod is heavily bugged. Make sure you are using Ryu Doppler's fixed version. Natural_Weather_HDR_by_Max_Tael.esp Note: Original mod is heavily bugged. Make sure you are using Ryu Doppler's fixed version. Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp Natural_Water_by_Max_Tael.esp DLCHorseArmor.esp Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Scripts}} Contains dirty edits: 3 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES4Edit cleaning: http://cs.elderscrolls.com/constwiki/index.php/TES4Edit_Cleaning_Guide DLCOrrery.esp Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Actors.AIPackages}} Contains dirty edits: 11 ITM, 2 UDR records. Needs TES4Edit cleaning: http://cs.elderscrolls.com/constwiki/index.php/TES4Edit_Cleaning_Guide DLCVileLair.esp Contains dirty edits: 26 ITM, 1 UDR records. Needs TES4Edit cleaning: http://cs.elderscrolls.com/constwiki/index.php/TES4Edit_Cleaning_Guide Incompatible with: 'Kumiko Manor' DLCMehrunesRazor.esp Contains dirty edits: 21 ITM, 15 UDR records. Needs TES4Edit cleaning: http://cs.elderscrolls.com/constwiki/index.php/TES4Edit_Cleaning_Guide DLCSpellTomes.esp Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}} Contains dirty edits: 40 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES4Edit cleaning: http://cs.elderscrolls.com/constwiki/index.php/TES4Edit_Cleaning_Guide DLCThievesDen.esp Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: C.Name, C.Light, Actors.ACBS, Actors.AIPackages, Actors.Stats}} Contains dirty edits: 5 ITM, 135 UDR records. Needs TES4Edit cleaning: http://cs.elderscrolls.com/constwiki/index.php/TES4Edit_Cleaning_Guide SkyCastle.esp DLCBattlehornCastle.esp DLCFrostcrag.esp Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: C.Name, C.Owner, Factions}} Contains dirty edits: 73 ITM, 94 UDR records. Needs TES4Edit cleaning: http://cs.elderscrolls.com/constwiki/index.php/TES4Edit_Cleaning_Guide Knights.esp Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Actors.AIPackages, Factions, Relations}} Contains dirty edits: 121 ITM, 257 UDR records. Needs TES4Edit cleaning: http://cs.elderscrolls.com/constwiki/index.php/TES4Edit_Cleaning_Guide Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp Note: Put before Unique Landscape mods to return tree sizes there to normal. Borderless_Cyrodiil-3578.esp Note: Use .ini tweak or Wrye Bash Bashed Patch tweak instead where possible to avoid conflicts. MidasSpells.esp Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Invent}} −Unrecognised Plugins Reorder these by hand using your favourite mod ordering utility. SaddleBag.esp NobleArmory.esp Ok lol. I did something with the .ini file and I fix it. thx anyways I guess.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balakirev Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 I suggest you try loading that saved game without BHC in your mod lineup. At worst, the game won't respond, and at best, you'll show up at an inn in the Imperial City where NPCs (and PCs) go when loading areas for them aren't properly linked. Then you can simply exit the inn, and continue on your way. Take seriously the suggestions about cleaning dirty edits. It's not that one mod like that is going to cause a lot of problems, but when you get quite a few, and each has several dozen, they add up. It affects the overall stability of the game. Here is a TES4Edit mod cleaning tutorial. It doesn't harm anything, if you follow the directions. It only removes duplicate cells in mods that already exist in the game. They aren't needed, and they can be safely left off unless there's a very good reason to leave them in. You might also want to consider adding Wrye Bash to your utilities. It not only lets you see some Oblivion mod-based problems at a glance, it safely merges some mods (only useful really when you run a ton of them, like me), and has a lot of configurable options that affect gameplay. You can get it here. And this is a pictorial guide to starting up your use of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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