christianl337 Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 I have seen some really great pictures which had combinations of outfits and I was wondering if there were any tutorials on how I can combine outfits. If there are not any tutorials, than what is the best way to combine them? I've tried my hand at crudely combining them in Blender by dragging the clothing pieces onto another body, but that doesn't seem like the best method. Do I have to recreate the body in order to make the outfit fit perfectly? Also, am I even allowed to combine outfits created by modders for my own personal use? I know I can't upload the new outfits without the original authors' permission, do I need permission to use the outfits in general? If anyone could shed some light on any of that for me, that would be great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyAubrie Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 (edited) The way I understand it is, there's kind of this unspoken rule: if it's vanilla content (original game or DLC expansion) you don't have to ask permission from Bethesda, obviously. :) If it's user-created content, like something you'd find on the Nexus, it's best if you ask permission from the creator (if possible) before uploading it, even if it's just pieces of their original creation. In some cases this is hard to do; maybe the original author got banned, or left the community, or otherwise can't be contacted. In these cases, people generally use their content, but with a disclaimer to the original author that they're willing to give whatever credit needed or abide by their wishes. I haven't seen too many conflicts about this, really... Edit: Oh, and to simply use the content? No, I don't think you need to ask permission unless you plan to upload it somewhere. If you're not sharing it with anyone, only using it for your own private use, I don't think permission is necessary... I was reading a tutorial just the other night on combining armor pieces, and I found it helpful...I think you will too. http://wiki.tesnexus.com/index.php/Creating_armor_mashups_for_fallout The author himself says he prefers to take pieces of different armors and put them together...and I think the process is easier than you might imagine (though I'm having a ton of trouble at the moment...:-P) Really, it's just a matter of fine-tuning the individual pieces to fit on whatever body you prefer, which, in the project I've been working on, wasn't all that difficult. :) I hope this is what you were looking for! Edited October 2, 2011 by LadyAubrie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
llamaRCA Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 You don't need permissions to muck about with mods for your own use. If you know how to use Blender and Nifskope already then a useful tutorial for mixing and mashing outfits together is this one by Quetzl. If you need more tutz for knowing how to do more of the details there are several tutorials in the Wiki link at the top of the page that can help with the missing pieces. I'm a total noob at this, but what I do is either play with the outfits in Nifskope if I can (sometimes they are in pieces so I can fiddle around with them there before I take it into Blender) or if it's vanilla stuff or modded and the mesh is joined in a way so I can't play with the pieces I want to then I will go into Blender and import stuff there into different layers to play with it until I know what pieces I want to mix together (combine different layers together to see how they look). And I import the body into Blender into one of the layers and it is the body that I want to fit the clothes to; usually a Type3 body. :) llama Edit: Oops! It took me forever to write this and LadyAubrie and I gave you the same tut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christianl337 Posted October 3, 2011 Author Share Posted October 3, 2011 Awesome, this will really help. I'm not too familiar with Blender or Nifskope. I'll be looking through the wiki for some info on using Nifskope, because I haven't the foggiest idea as to how to use it. My experience only goes as far as photoshop and final cut pro. I dabbled in Blender and Geck a bit, but not enough to have a good understanding. It's actually kinda ironic that you replied, llamaRCA, cause the whole reason I'm getting into modding clothing is to make outfits for Willow. I want to make some stuff that won't interfere with the jacket. The top from the Tomb Raider outfit works perfectly, but I want to give her some pants. Speaking of the top, for some reason the original creator had the top attached to what I think is the top part of the shoes, and I don't know how to seperate them without deleting the top as well. Will that be covered in the tutorials or is it something that is a bit more tricky? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyAubrie Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 Well, LlamaRCA and I did give you essentially the same rundown...but she did it more concisely. :) *bows to llama* I can't imagine FNV without Willow! Christian, if you'd like some beginner help on getting used to NifSkope, I'd be happy to pass along a little of what I've learned if you ever decide you want an intro primer...it would get you off the ground, anyway. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
llamaRCA Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 It's actually kinda ironic that you replied, llamaRCA, cause the whole reason I'm getting into modding clothing is to make outfits for Willow. I want to make some stuff that won't interfere with the jacket. The top from the Tomb Raider outfit works perfectly, but I want to give her some pants. lol! The only reason I started learning Blender is to make outfits for Willow. I was going to take her into FO3 and decided she would make all her own clothes so needed to learn how to do it so I could hodge podge together vanilla stuff for her to have made for herself. Speaking of the top, for some reason the original creator had the top attached to what I think is the top part of the shoes, and I don't know how to seperate them without deleting the top as well. Will that be covered in the tutorials or is it something that is a bit more tricky? Well, yes, and the tutz were helpful, but at first I couldn't do the simplest things they described. I had to go google each and every step I had to do so I could do it (Blender isn't very easy to figure out; or at least not for me). It was pretty funny. So the learning curve was steep and intense. But, once I got through the first few days it was okay. So, to answer your question, yes, deleting pieces of the mesh is easy once you get into Blender and get comfortable moving around in the window. Thanks LadyAubrie :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quetzlsacatanango Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 I put the common hotkeys for blender in the bottom there. And don't feel bad... where I said it took me like a year to discover proportional edit... If I was exaggerating it wasn't by much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christianl337 Posted October 3, 2011 Author Share Posted October 3, 2011 Thanks a bunch guys, I'm gunna have to wait till the end of the week to actually get into the stuff, I have two school projects due this week which are sucking up my spare time.University is annoying sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christianl337 Posted October 8, 2011 Author Share Posted October 8, 2011 Alright, so I'm really hitting some hitches on step 5. I'm not really sure about the correct way to massage the clothing piece, or exactly what messaging means. I know I'm supposed to be molding the top onto the body, but I'm not sure as to the correct process. I'm trying to use the proportional edit but I'm not sure which proportional edit to use and if I should select the entire top or just a bit of... I'm not sure what they're called, a vector? Any way, any help for step five would be great, google isn't helping me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quetzlsacatanango Posted October 8, 2011 Share Posted October 8, 2011 Well, 5 is the hardest step, and it really depends what you're trying to do. Sometimes nothing, sometimes a lot. Playing around and seeing what happens is the best way to learn I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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