Endless Loading Screen

[ForeverLost]

Hey gang,

 

 

So today I was playing New Vegas and I was finishing up some quests in the Old Mormon Fort, but whenever I try to leave this area and head back into Freeside the loading screen will simply not end. I cannot alt tab or bring up task managed either, I'm forced to hard restart my computer. I only have 2 saves for New Vegas and both of them are in the Fort, I've tried both and they yield the same result. I have also entered and exited this area before in the past with no problems at all so I'm not sure why this is suddenly happening now. I do have mods installed but no new ones have been installed since I last entered the Fort with success.

[mooncarver]

post your modlist please.

[ForeverLost]

FalloutNV.esm

OWNB - Open World.esm

StockingsNV.esp

Active Wasteland.esm

wsex.esm

ELECTRO-CITY - CompletedWorkorders.esm

Lings.esm

MikotoBeauty.esm

cortexscrambler.esm

More Perks.esm

Holster.esp

VegasOutfits.esp

MikotoBeauty.esp

LingsPrettyThings.esp

OWNB - Red Canyon Overhaul.esp

Goodsprings Filler.esp

Active Wasteland - Vanilla Replacements.esp

Active Wasteland - Coffee Maker.esp

Active Wasteland - Goggle Tints.esp

GSPH.esp

wsexInnuendoNPCs.esp

wsexInnuendoAnims.esp

FalloutShelter-gear-v1-45.esp

Better Casinos.esp

Centered 3rd Person Camera - Unraised.esp

Plausible Starting Outfit.esp

RivensElfEars.esp

1Earrings.esp

HackingInstantRetry.esp

FlashlightNVSE.esp

PURELUST_port.esp

Sprint Mod.esp

Nidaoutfitv1.esp

CorrosionDress.esp

AL Black Corsetry and Blanc dress.esp

BodyJewelry.esp

Neckchains.esp

Sunglasses Shipment.esp

Neo's DOA Christie NV.esp

More Perks Update.esp

T3Belts_BootsNV.esp

cortexscrambler_sexualinnuendo.esp

ShilohDS-Color Maps and Icons.esp

Fellout.esp

Interior Lighting Overhaul-Realistic Interiors-Full.esp

Face.esp

NVT3Tattered Suits.esp

TSoutfitv1.esp

Readius_NV.esp

GFemalePyjamas.esp

CheerSexyOutfit.esp

no karma loss for stealing.esp

Animated Prostitution.esp

[mooncarver]

use BOSS to properly rearrange your plugins and then create a merged patch or a bashed patch. you have a lot of small mods active, which may override each other in various ways and this can make the game unstable in the long run. that's why a proper load order is important, not to mention a merged patch. try it and see if it helps.

 

if all else fails, deactivate all mods and start activating them one at a time to find the mod responsible for your crashes.

[ForeverLost]

I have used BOSS to change my load order but I'm not sure how to create a merged or bashed patch

[mooncarver]

I've assumed that you didn't use BOSS because, for example, nv-readius is very far down in your load order. looking at my modlist, it's the fourth .esp after all the esm's. are you using FOMM or Wrye Flash to manage your mods? the latter has lock times on by default, which means BOSS can't rearrange the plugins (they revert back to their previous positions).

 

otherwise, try the merged patch and see if it helps:

 

- download this bad boy: http://www.newvegasnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=34703 -> unpack everything into your NV game folder and run the program

- upon start you'll be presented with your modlist, make sure that everything is checked and hit ok

- now right-click on the left part (where your mods are listed), then click on create merged patch

- name it and wait till the process is complete, you'll see a new esp at the very bottom of your mod list

- close the program, it'll show you the newly created esp, make sure it's checked and hit ok

- make sure it's checked in the launcher (or whatever tool you're using) and start the game

- ???

- profit (hopefully)

 

again, if nothing helps, you'll need to deactivate all mods and activate them one by one to find the culprit.

Edited October 4, 2011 by mooncarver

[ForeverLost]

After I select all my mods and hit ok the program runs for a while then it pops up with this message:

 

 

An error occured while loading modules. Editing is disabled. Check the message log and correct the error.

 

 

 

I looked around but see no way to fix this by myself, here are the last lines of my message log:

 

[00:03] Background Loader: loading "Active Wasteland - Dead Money Coffee Maker.esp"...

[00:03] Background Loader: [Active Wasteland - Dead Money Coffee Maker.esp] Loading file

[00:03] Background Loader: [Active Wasteland - Dead Money Coffee Maker.esp] File loaded

[00:03] Background Loader: [Active Wasteland - Dead Money Coffee Maker.esp] Start processing

[00:03] Background Loader: [Active Wasteland - Dead Money Coffee Maker.esp] Adding master "FalloutNV.esm"

[00:03] Background Loader: [Active Wasteland - Dead Money Coffee Maker.esp] Adding master "Active Wasteland.esm"

[00:03] Background Loader: [Active Wasteland - Dead Money Coffee Maker.esp] Adding master "DeadMoney.esm"

[00:03] Background Loader: [DeadMoney.esm] Loading file

[00:03] Background Loader: Fatal: <EOSError: System Error. Code: 2.

The system cannot find the file specified>

[00:07] Background Loader: finished

 

 

 

Also I appreciate your help so far.

[mooncarver]

yeah, this sounds familiar. the problem is, one of your mods need another mod to work properly. in this case it's the active wasteland mod which needs the dead money DLC as a master esm file. the weird thing is, you seem to have the correct esp files already installed but fnvedit still tries to load the dead money compatibility files (Active Wasteland - Dead Money Coffee Maker.esp). reinstall this mod using vanilla only esp's and run the program again.

 

this may also be the cause of your crashes.

 

edit: I should have mentioned that, but check only plugins you want to use ingame. if you copied the whole active wasteland archive into your data folder but left the compatibility dead money esp unchecked (which is good), then do the same when loading your mods in fnvedit. check only mods you want to use.

Edited October 5, 2011 by mooncarver

[ForeverLost]

I ran FNVEdit using only the mods I have enabled ticked, I then was able to create the merged patch. I ran the game in windowed mode with mergedpatch.esp enabled at the bottom of my mod list, no such luck and it crashed. I then tried again with it at the very top of the esp files but below the esms. and I'm happy to report it worked. Windows 7 did report the game had stopped responding for a few seconds but I was able to leave the Mormon Fort and quick save, then I came here.

 

 

I'm still confused as to why this would suddenly happen out of the blue when I have been in out of this area in the past with no trouble. As for playing New Vegas I plan to continue with the mods I have installed and with Mergedpatch.esp running but I'd like your input into what you think I should do in regards to mods.

 

 

 

 

I'm not sure if this is coincedence but I just took the game out of windowed mode and launched it and got stuck with the infinite loading screen,

 

Put it back in windowed, got the loading screen again

Edited October 5, 2011 by ForeverLost

[mooncarver]

I then tried again with it at the very top of the esp files but below the esms. and I'm happy to report it worked. Windows 7 did report the game had stopped responding for a few seconds but I was able to leave the Mormon Fort and quick save, then I came here.

 

well, thats pretty weird. merged patch has to be at the very bottom of your modlist or problems may occur. but if it worked for you, then it's fine I guess.

 

I'm still confused as to why this would suddenly happen out of the blue when I have been in out of this area in the past with no trouble. As for playing New Vegas I plan to continue with the mods I have installed and with Mergedpatch.esp running but I'd like your input into what you think I should do in regards to mods.

 

it's difficult for me to give you specific advice on how to manage your load order, because most of the mods you're using are unknown to me. I see many small accessoir and suits mods, so perhaps they're somehow interfering with each other and/or other mods. you're not the first one to experience sudden crashes, unfortunately this is how the gamebryo engine shows you the finger sometimes. happened to me in fallout 3, until I learned how to use the bashed patch and decided to stick with mostly popular and stable mods. only then I started adding smaller stuff, like holster, backpacks, single weapon mods, even toyed around with the geck a bit. at the end the game was heavily modded, but quite stable.

 

I suggest deactivating everything and do the trial and error thing. activate them one by one: bigger mods, like electro city, fellout, more perks and traits, interior lightining overhaul should be enabled first (one by one), verify that the game works after each mod you've activated and then proceed with smaller ones. again verify after each mod, that the game is running without ctd's (and always make a new merged patch so that new mods can be included).

 

 

I'm not sure if this is coincedence but I just took the game out of windowed mode and launched it and got stuck with the infinite loading screen,

 

Put it back in windowed, got the loading screen again

 

 

what do you mean? infinite loading screen still persists after reenabling the windowed mode or does it load properly in windowed mode only? if latter is true, try this thing: http://www.newvegasnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=41381

 

though it may only be a placebo, since it won't solve existing incompatibilities.