monshael Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 So i'm in NCR CF doing the "I fought the law" quest and i'm walking around the place then an Omerta Thug shows up and starts the weapon dialog from across the yard. So my options are:- give guns- give guns except for concealed ones- resist- leave If i resist and I kill him, the Gommorah main/side quest is failed and if i leave, the game automatically moves me outside the Gommorah casino. If i enter the casino again, the dude's not there so i'm stuck there probably until he shows up all the way from the CF, if he shows up at all. If i just leave and continue playing, there's no guarantee he'll be back when i'm actually supposed to do the quest or if he dies on the way and i get a failed quest anyway.If i give him my guns, what do i do to get them back? I suppose i could leave them somewhere before the forced dialog and get them back afterwards, but the creeper moron is still an issue. Again, if he dies and i fail the quest automatically, it'll be a big pain in the butt. For the quest fail, can I use the console to reset it? But which is the right way to do it so i don't screw the game up completely? I really have no idea if this is a normal bug or mod-related one, but i posted here thinking it's the latter. Since i have a quite large list of mods i currently use, i'm guessing something got screwed up in his scripts or something... here's the list: [X] FalloutNV.esm[X] DeadMoney.esm[X] HonestHearts.esm[X] OldWorldBlues.esm[X] LonesomeRoad.esm[X] GunRunnersArsenal.esm[X] ClassicPack.esm[X] MercenaryPack.esm[X] TribalPack.esm[X] CaravanPack.esm[X] NVCE Main.esm[X] Advanced Recon Tech.esm[X] Caliber.esm[X] dangame.esm[X] Decrucifixion.esm[X] Detect Traps.esm[X] Frequency.esm[X] More Perks.esm[X] More Perks for Companions.esm[X] More Perks for Dead Money.esm[X] More Perks for Honest Hearts.esm[X] More Perks for Old World Blues.esm[X] More Traits.esm[X] NVR-Strip.esm[X] Primary Needs HUD.esm[X] Project Nevada - Core.esm[X] Project Nevada - Equipment.esm[X] WMVM.esm[X] aHUD.esm[X] iHUD.esm[X] MikotoBeauty.esm[X] DFB - Random Encounters.esm[X] Compiled Patch.esp[X] Compiled Patch - DeadMoney.esp[X] Compiled Patch - HonestHearts.esp[X] Compiled Patch - OldWorldBlues.esp[X] Compiled Patch - LonesomeRoad.esp[X] Spells 3.esp[X] implants_delimiter.esp[X] MannequinNV.esp[X] Airship.esp[X] CasinoBankMoney.esp[X] NewRecipes.esp[X] Wasteland Assassin.esp[X] Certified Tech Bugfix.esp[X] MikotoBPCCVeronica.esp[X] FairyRadar.esp[X] HUD Extended.esp[X] The Mod Configuration Menu.esp[X] 188 Trading Post Revisited.esp[X] clean McCarran.esp[X] UWHNV-Core.esp[X] UWHNV-Addon-DLC.esp[X] NewVegasExtendedMapMarkers.esp[X] NVR-NPCs.esp[X] NVR-Version_10.esp[X] strangebox.esp[X] AllCompanionsEssential 2.0b.esp[X] Project Nevada - Cyberware.esp[X] Project Nevada - Dead Money.esp[X] Project Nevada - Honest Hearts.esp[X] Project Nevada - Old World Blues (No Cyberware).esp[X] Improved Sound FX.esp[X] Improved Sound FX - Gunshot Distance Tweak.esp[X] Improved Sound FX - Weapon Sharing Fix.esp[X] Improved Sound FX - DM.esp[X] Improved Sound FX - HH.esp[X] Improved Sound FX - HH Sharing Fix.esp[X] Improved Sound FX - OWB Sharing Fix.esp[X] Improved Sound FX - LR Sharing Fix.esp[X] Improved Sound FX - Project Nevada.esp[X] Machienzo-RadioNewVegasFixv11.esp[X] CharacterBackgrounds.esp[X] NewVegasBounties.esp[X] TheCollector.esp[X] BrainPerkBugfix_Cardiac.esp[X] Detect Traps - Perk.esp[X] More Perks Update.esp[X] More Perks for Companions Update.esp[X] More Perks for Dead Money Update.esp[X] More Perks for Honest Hearts Update.esp[X] More Perks for Old World Blues Update.esp[X] More Traits Update.esp[X] SnowGlobePerks.esp[X] BoostedSkills.esp[X] Decrucifixion.esp[X] Decrucifixion - More Victims.esp[X] Detect Traps - DLC.esp[X] FalloutNVCheatTerminal.esp[X] Frequency - Dead Money Patch.esp[X] Frequency - Honest Hearts Patch.esp[X] Frequency - Old World Blues Patch.esp[X] Frequency - Project Nevada Patch.esp[X] Mod Loot - 2. Reasonably Rare.esp[X] SaveCass.esp[X] SignatureWeapons.esp[X] WMVM-DM.esp[X] WMVM-OWB.esp[X] Better Ammo Crafting.esp[X] Oven Cooking.esp[X] Advanced Recon Gear.esp[X] Advanced Recon Tech - Detect Traps.esp[X] ASG.esp[X] M82.esp[X] NekhCFinderFix.esp[X] SR-25.esp[X] ThirdLeg.esp[X] THOR.esp[X] QS_Blackwolf_NV_Backpackmod.esp[X] Advanced Recon Armor.esp[X] Advanced Recon Range Finder.esp[X] Advanced Recon Gear - Project Nevada.esp[X] dressup.esp[X] LFox Invisible Armored Vests.esp[X] RCSS.esp[X] Tailor Maid Black Retex - NV.esp[X] THE5 Visors Mod.esp[X] NVCE DLC01.esp[X] NVCE DLC02.esp[X] NVCE DLC03.esp[X] NVCE DLC04.esp[X] Companion Sandbox Mode.esp[X] ImprovedCompanions.esp[X] NVWillow.esp[X] LightweightSanitizer.esp[X] aaaJNFSniperZooming.esp[X] pipboyx6.esp[X] Dead Money - No Collar Explosion and No Poison Cloud.esp[X] Faster Terminals.esp[X] GameSettings.esp[X] Meltdown Medley.esp[X] NoBlurOnHit.esp[X] Project Nevada - Rebalance.esp[X] WeaponModsExpanded.esp[X] Improved Sound FX - WMX - Weapon Sharing Fix.esp[X] Frequency - WMX Patch.esp[X] Project Nevada - WMX.esp[X] Frequency - PN+WMX Patch.esp[X] WMR_WMX_S.esp[X] WMX-DeadMoney.esp[X] WMX-HonestHearts.esp[X] WMX-OldWorldBlues.esp[X] Improved Sound FX - WMX - HH Sharing Fix.esp[X] Improved Sound FX - WMX - OWB Sharing Fix.esp[X] Mail Order Catalogs.esp[X] Mail Order Catalogs DLC01.esp[X] Mail Order Catalogs DLC02.esp[X] Mail Order Catalogs WMX.esp[X] Mail Order Catalogs DLC01 WMX.esp[X] Mail Order Catalogs DLC02 WMX.esp[X] WMVM-WMX.esp[X] WMVM-WMX-DM.esp[X] WMVM-WMX-HH.esp[X] WMVM-WMX-OWB.esp[X] WMVM-PN.esp[X] WMVM-PN-WMX.esp[X] WMVM-GRA.esp[X] Cactai of the Wastes [plugin].esp[X] SimpleStreetLights.esp[X] BetterGamePerformanceV4.esp[X] 7DanceFnV.esp[X] MikotoBeauty.esp[X] Better Performance for Older PCs - No gunshot lights.esp[X] Gun Runners Armory - Logical and Lore Friendly.esp[X] GRA mod sorter.esp[X] EliteScribeRobe-both.esp[X] LFox Magic Fingers Perk.esp[X] ae86seiryuu.esp[X] Type 6.esp[X] OFT_Merge_All.esp[X] Merged Patch.esp my guesses are the Compiled (bugfix) Patch, the DFB - Random Encounters or the FNVEdit created Merged Patch to be the cause. Anyway, has anyone else had this kind of stalker problem? It would really help if i can understand why this guy shows up when i barely even started the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juankis Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 If you summon him from outside the Gomorrah with the console (prid (guy's ref id), moveto player) does he stays there or does he goes back to CF?You could also just disable him in CF, the re-enable and move to you, once you are outside Gomorrah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulo Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 So i'm in NCR CF doing the "I fought the law" quest and i'm walking around the place then an Omerta Thug shows up and starts the weapon dialog from across the yard. So my options are:- give guns- give guns except for concealed ones- resist- leave If i resist and I kill him, the Gommorah main/side quest is failed and if i leave, the game automatically moves me outside the Gommorah casino. If i enter the casino again, the dude's not there so i'm stuck there probably until he shows up all the way from the CF, if he shows up at all. If i just leave and continue playing, there's no guarantee he'll be back when i'm actually supposed to do the quest or if he dies on the way and i get a failed quest anyway.If i give him my guns, what do i do to get them back? I suppose i could leave them somewhere before the forced dialog and get them back afterwards, but the creeper moron is still an issue. Again, if he dies and i fail the quest automatically, it'll be a big pain in the butt. For the quest fail, can I use the console to reset it? But which is the right way to do it so i don't screw the game up completely? I really have no idea if this is a normal bug or mod-related one, but i posted here thinking it's the latter. Since i have a quite large list of mods i currently use, i'm guessing something got screwed up in his scripts or something... here's the list: [X] FalloutNV.esm[X] DeadMoney.esm[X] HonestHearts.esm[X] OldWorldBlues.esm[X] LonesomeRoad.esm[X] GunRunnersArsenal.esm[X] ClassicPack.esm[X] MercenaryPack.esm[X] TribalPack.esm[X] CaravanPack.esm[X] NVCE Main.esm[X] Advanced Recon Tech.esm[X] Caliber.esm[X] dangame.esm[X] Decrucifixion.esm[X] Detect Traps.esm[X] Frequency.esm[X] More Perks.esm[X] More Perks for Companions.esm[X] More Perks for Dead Money.esm[X] More Perks for Honest Hearts.esm[X] More Perks for Old World Blues.esm[X] More Traits.esm[X] NVR-Strip.esm[X] Primary Needs HUD.esm[X] Project Nevada - Core.esm[X] Project Nevada - Equipment.esm[X] WMVM.esm[X] aHUD.esm[X] iHUD.esm[X] MikotoBeauty.esm[X] DFB - Random Encounters.esm[X] Compiled Patch.esp[X] Compiled Patch - DeadMoney.esp[X] Compiled Patch - HonestHearts.esp[X] Compiled Patch - OldWorldBlues.esp[X] Compiled Patch - LonesomeRoad.esp[X] Spells 3.esp[X] implants_delimiter.esp[X] MannequinNV.esp[X] Airship.esp[X] CasinoBankMoney.esp[X] NewRecipes.esp[X] Wasteland Assassin.esp[X] Certified Tech Bugfix.esp[X] MikotoBPCCVeronica.esp[X] FairyRadar.esp[X] HUD Extended.esp[X] The Mod Configuration Menu.esp[X] 188 Trading Post Revisited.esp[X] clean McCarran.esp[X] UWHNV-Core.esp[X] UWHNV-Addon-DLC.esp[X] NewVegasExtendedMapMarkers.esp[X] NVR-NPCs.esp[X] NVR-Version_10.esp[X] strangebox.esp[X] AllCompanionsEssential 2.0b.esp[X] Project Nevada - Cyberware.esp[X] Project Nevada - Dead Money.esp[X] Project Nevada - Honest Hearts.esp[X] Project Nevada - Old World Blues (No Cyberware).esp[X] Improved Sound FX.esp[X] Improved Sound FX - Gunshot Distance Tweak.esp[X] Improved Sound FX - Weapon Sharing Fix.esp[X] Improved Sound FX - DM.esp[X] Improved Sound FX - HH.esp[X] Improved Sound FX - HH Sharing Fix.esp[X] Improved Sound FX - OWB Sharing Fix.esp[X] Improved Sound FX - LR Sharing Fix.esp[X] Improved Sound FX - Project Nevada.esp[X] Machienzo-RadioNewVegasFixv11.esp[X] CharacterBackgrounds.esp[X] NewVegasBounties.esp[X] TheCollector.esp[X] BrainPerkBugfix_Cardiac.esp[X] Detect Traps - Perk.esp[X] More Perks Update.esp[X] More Perks for Companions Update.esp[X] More Perks for Dead Money Update.esp[X] More Perks for Honest Hearts Update.esp[X] More Perks for Old World Blues Update.esp[X] More Traits Update.esp[X] SnowGlobePerks.esp[X] BoostedSkills.esp[X] Decrucifixion.esp[X] Decrucifixion - More Victims.esp[X] Detect Traps - DLC.esp[X] FalloutNVCheatTerminal.esp[X] Frequency - Dead Money Patch.esp[X] Frequency - Honest Hearts Patch.esp[X] Frequency - Old World Blues Patch.esp[X] Frequency - Project Nevada Patch.esp[X] Mod Loot - 2. Reasonably Rare.esp[X] SaveCass.esp[X] SignatureWeapons.esp[X] WMVM-DM.esp[X] WMVM-OWB.esp[X] Better Ammo Crafting.esp[X] Oven Cooking.esp[X] Advanced Recon Gear.esp[X] Advanced Recon Tech - Detect Traps.esp[X] ASG.esp[X] M82.esp[X] NekhCFinderFix.esp[X] SR-25.esp[X] ThirdLeg.esp[X] THOR.esp[X] QS_Blackwolf_NV_Backpackmod.esp[X] Advanced Recon Armor.esp[X] Advanced Recon Range Finder.esp[X] Advanced Recon Gear - Project Nevada.esp[X] dressup.esp[X] LFox Invisible Armored Vests.esp[X] RCSS.esp[X] Tailor Maid Black Retex - NV.esp[X] THE5 Visors Mod.esp[X] NVCE DLC01.esp[X] NVCE DLC02.esp[X] NVCE DLC03.esp[X] NVCE DLC04.esp[X] Companion Sandbox Mode.esp[X] ImprovedCompanions.esp[X] NVWillow.esp[X] LightweightSanitizer.esp[X] aaaJNFSniperZooming.esp[X] pipboyx6.esp[X] Dead Money - No Collar Explosion and No Poison Cloud.esp[X] Faster Terminals.esp[X] GameSettings.esp[X] Meltdown Medley.esp[X] NoBlurOnHit.esp[X] Project Nevada - Rebalance.esp[X] WeaponModsExpanded.esp[X] Improved Sound FX - WMX - Weapon Sharing Fix.esp[X] Frequency - WMX Patch.esp[X] Project Nevada - WMX.esp[X] Frequency - PN+WMX Patch.esp[X] WMR_WMX_S.esp[X] WMX-DeadMoney.esp[X] WMX-HonestHearts.esp[X] WMX-OldWorldBlues.esp[X] Improved Sound FX - WMX - HH Sharing Fix.esp[X] Improved Sound FX - WMX - OWB Sharing Fix.esp[X] Mail Order Catalogs.esp[X] Mail Order Catalogs DLC01.esp[X] Mail Order Catalogs DLC02.esp[X] Mail Order Catalogs WMX.esp[X] Mail Order Catalogs DLC01 WMX.esp[X] Mail Order Catalogs DLC02 WMX.esp[X] WMVM-WMX.esp[X] WMVM-WMX-DM.esp[X] WMVM-WMX-HH.esp[X] WMVM-WMX-OWB.esp[X] WMVM-PN.esp[X] WMVM-PN-WMX.esp[X] WMVM-GRA.esp[X] Cactai of the Wastes [plugin].esp[X] SimpleStreetLights.esp[X] BetterGamePerformanceV4.esp[X] 7DanceFnV.esp[X] MikotoBeauty.esp[X] Better Performance for Older PCs - No gunshot lights.esp[X] Gun Runners Armory - Logical and Lore Friendly.esp[X] GRA mod sorter.esp[X] EliteScribeRobe-both.esp[X] LFox Magic Fingers Perk.esp[X] ae86seiryuu.esp[X] Type 6.esp[X] OFT_Merge_All.esp[X] Merged Patch.esp my guesses are the Compiled (bugfix) Patch, the DFB - Random Encounters or the FNVEdit created Merged Patch to be the cause. Anyway, has anyone else had this kind of stalker problem? It would really help if i can understand why this guy shows up when i barely even started the game. Well, I have exactly the same problem. Didn't walk out of Goodsprings yet and there he stands before my house bugging me... But it is not freely repeatable. Sometimes he shows up, sometimes not. My mods: [X] FalloutNV.esm[X] DeadMoney.esm[X] HonestHearts.esm[X] OldWorldBlues.esm[X] LonesomeRoad.esm[X] CaravanPack.esm[X] ClassicPack.esm[X] MercenaryPack.esm[X] TribalPack.esm[X] GunRunnersArsenal.esm[X] NSkies URWLified.esm[X] CFWNV.esm[X] Weapon Mod Expansion.esm[X] RHKGilbertCompanion.esm[X] aHUD.esm[X] Primary Needs HUD.esm[X] iHUD.esm[X] WME - DLCs.esm[X] More Traits.esm[X] More Perks.esm[X] NVR-Strip.esm[X] Tales from the Burning Sands.esm[X] AWorldOfPain(Preview).esm[X] Compiled Patch.esp[X] Compiled Patch - DeadMoney.esp[X] Compiled Patch - HonestHearts.esp[X] Compiled Patch - OldWorldBlues.esp[X] Compiled Patch - LonesomeRoad.esp[X] SturdyCaravanShotgunSurgeon.esp[X] Centered 3rd Person Camera - Unraised.esp[X] MercGrenadeRifleDemoPyro.esp[X] Weathered10mmProfessional.esp[X] More Traits Update.esp[X] More Perks Update.esp[X] Bobblehunt.esp[X] christinecos.esp[X] DarNifiedUINV.esp[X] Sunglasses Shipment.esp[X] HUD Extended.esp[X] Type3 Leather Armors.esp[X] NVRefugee Outfits.esp[X] Night Vision Sunglasses.esp[X] Neckchains.esp[X] Kaya47NordicBags.esp[X] OCD-Cass outfits.esp[X] G36C.esp[X] M4A1.esp[X] ImprovedGeckoLeatherArmor.esp[X] NVT3Tattered Suits.esp[X] TGsArmorCollectionVegas.esp[X] DragonskinTacticalOutfit.esp[X] DragonskinBonusPack.esp[X] Bandshirts_NV.esp[X] HDTshop.esp[X] Night Brightness Adjuster.esp[X] The Mod Configuration Menu.esp[X] SaveCass.esp[X] Freeside GunRunners.esp[X] NewVegasBounties.esp[X] NVFR-Version_2.esp[X] NVR-NPCs.esp[X] NVR-Version_10.esp[X] MediumPopulatedFreeside.esp[X] populatedcasino-medium.esp[X] SunnyCompanion.esp[X] Companion Sandbox Mode.esp[X] AllCompanionsEssential 2.0b.esp[X] NoCompLimit.esp[X] UnlimitedCompanions.esp[X] dD - Enhanced Blood Main NV.esp[X] OWB HQ Textures Fix.esp[X] Weapon Mod Expansion.esp[X] WME - DLCs.esp[X] WME - DLCs Arenovalis.esp[X] WME - Named & Sorted.esp[X] WME - Arenovalis.esp[X] WME - Ironsights.esp[X] WME - Ironsights - DLCs.esp[X] EVE FNV.esp[X] WMEVE.esp[X] EVE_NV_Headshot_Bufix.esp[X] realistic headshots.esp[X] Primm_Rumor_Fix.esp[X] OFT_Merge_All.esp[X] UHNV.esp[X] UHNV-Bobblehunt.esp[X] UHNV-More Mannequins.esp[X] UHNV-Dead Money.esp[X] UHNV-Honest Hearts.esp[X] UHNV-OWB.esp[X] SimpleStreetLights.esp[X] SimpleStreetLights (Extra Lights).esp[X] ExtendedNVRadio.esp[X] Sulo_AdditionalMapMarkers.esp[X] Sulo_Settings.esp[X] Sulo_GoodspringsFHQ.esp Maybe the community patch? When I'll have the time I will open everything together in the FNVEdit and see what changes the Omerta Thug... Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyrb Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 Just started encountering the same problem. In this case, the wandering Omerta Thug was first encountered in the Strip, outside of Gomorrah; later on he came up again upon leaving the Thorn. Going back to the ravenmodding page associated with the Compiled Patch, it seems that this is a problem caused by version 0.3.1 of the Compiled Patch, which should hopefully be fixed in 0.3.2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulo Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 Just started encountering the same problem. In this case, the wandering Omerta Thug was first encountered in the Strip, outside of Gomorrah; later on he came up again upon leaving the Thorn. Going back to the ravenmodding page associated with the Compiled Patch, it seems that this is a problem caused by version 0.3.1 of the Compiled Patch, which should hopefully be fixed in 0.3.2. Well, for me the stalking problem still exists in Ver. 0.3.2. - apart from the fact that the greeting dialogue is not initiating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monshael Posted October 7, 2011 Author Share Posted October 7, 2011 yeah, i had 0.3.1 too so i guess that one was really the problem... Well, for me the stalking problem still exists in Ver. 0.3.2. - apart from the fact that the greeting dialogue is not initiating. my guess for this is that the new version fixed the problem, but only if the script hadn't been already activated, so for a save game in which the thug already was on his way to our characters, it did mostly nothing. anyway, on their site someone said this: I had the Gomorrah greeter problems too (greeting me in random places in prev game, and not in Gomorrah lobby in current one). It seems to be fixed after I recompiled the bad GomorrahHotelDoorScript in GECK, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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