End of ages, time of the ghost warriors

[darkus37]

OK continuing the OZ discussion from the other thread.

 

So here are the characters I remember from the Wizard of Oz and what their roles can be (I find it a little strange that I still remember this stuff off the top of my head):

 

Dorothy: the PC.

Toto: a companion, possibly a dog, but I'd rather have something useful like an Eyebot.

The Scarecrow: A busted up android from elsewhere. It lost it's memory long ago and barely even resembles a human form anymore. When you meet him, he's on fire because he did not know that standing inside a bonfire is bad for him. As you progress, he can be restored physically and Oz will give him a new memory bank.

The Tin Man: straight up sentry bot. Originally a robotic sentinel of death, after the war ended he began to think about whether it was right to kill without making sure he was attacking a bad guy and exceeded his programming limitations. Unfortunately, this caused him to shut down non-essential functions to try and support his mind but his body couldn't handle it leaving him rusted and abandoned. Fixing him gives you some serious firepower. Oz will give him an updated OS that allows him to feel feelings.

The Cowardly Lion: as you suggested, a feral tribal or creature who gets to prove his courage.

The Wicked Witch Of The West: this was the green one, right? How about this: TWWW was OZ's first attempt at advanced robotics. He succeeded but due to a programming error or random chance, she became convinced that the other humans needed to be killed since they diverted Oz's attention away from her. Her attempts to kill the other humans were hampered by her weak body and her build in programming (she can't kill directly). She left and eventually stumbled upon some sort of robot factory from where she upgraded herself and sent her minions to eradicate the other humans. Whether or not Oz himself is considered an enemy as well will have to be considered.

The Wicked Witch Of The East: not a direct sister, but the first robot that TWWW builds herself and is a "sister" robot. A hulking mechanical mess, the PC accidentally destroys her and finds the red ruby macguffin that can overclock any machine it's connected to (introduces a new dynamic since it's a pre-war AI).

The Munchkins: the tribals you're trying to help.

The Flying Monkeys: the robots that TWWW sends to harass the tribals.

Oz: an intelligent child from a very wealthy family that allowed him to do incredible experiments as he grew up. A good kid, he eventually sealed himself like Mr. Robert house in a preservation pod and tried to look after everyone else.

[greenknightfury]

Really like the Oz ideas!

[devinpatterson]

Really like the Oz ideas!

 

I like the Oz stuff from the movies too, I get a kick out of the cultural mashup, but what really threw me was checking out the wiki. The lore is insane. like 14 original books, maybe that many more books by different authors. Crazy. Not that we'll probably use anything beyond the movie lore, but just surprising how huge that fictional world is.

[greenknightfury]

I've read a number of those other books lol A Barnstormer in Oz was really funky heh. Amazingly the movie Return to Oz was less messed up than the book.

[maryberry01]

Woahhh it's late and I haven't gone through and read everything you guys have thought out, but once again Devin, you're a genius. Lol

 

These mods you come up with are just incredible, they all sound like something I'd be willing and ready to play right now haha

 

So what are you waiting for, get to it boys!! I'll be sitting here awaiting my lines :)

[CrameKnight]

Devin please stick to the idea that this mod is set up north. It would be amazing if it would be ala "Pathfinder" (the movie). Snow, Indians, Mountain, Stealth wow!!! I can't describe it. Please make sure this is down up north.

[devinpatterson]

they all sound like something I'd be willing and ready to play right now haha

 

I think it's going to be a good mod because have a lot of historical material to really help flesh out the ideas.

We can draw off of the Romans and (Vis)Goth tribals conflict at the twilight of the Roman empire.

We get to use the conflict between native Americans and the encroaching settlers/pioneers of the old west.

Tons of native American myth/belief etc.

And then we get to put a whole new fallout spin on all of it :thumbsup:

 

Just wish Quetzlsacatanango was still with us, but I think he's on a break.

 

So what are you waiting for, get to it boys!!

 

We're working on it woman, Rome wasn't built in a day (or in this case sacked in a day)

 

I'll be sitting here awaiting my lines :)

 

Don't sell yourself short. Yeah we definitely need voice actors, especially voice actresses. But the reason I wanted you to check out the threads is because you have awesome ideas. Sure, they usually come in a sugar fueled, machine gun/staccato speed, stream of consciousness..........but it's a small price to pay for genius. So don't be shy,post your ideas.

 

I already know they're awesome and I want to take advantage of them in my mods.

[devinpatterson]

I've read a number of those other books lol A Barnstormer in Oz was really funky heh. Amazingly the movie Return to Oz was less messed up than the book.

 

I think I better split the oz thread. Between you, Maryberry, Darkus, (maybe Trooper?) and anyone else that offers to help, I think we have enough to make it a stand alone mod. It will be kind of low level, but hey they're kids right? Not like they'd be combating cybernetically enhanced, psionic deathclaws. Plus it might be nice to focus a little more on problem solving vs combat now and then. I'll gather up our oz references and paste them in the new thread.

 

And besides loosing the Emerald City shopping mall won't impact this mod at all. There are a million mini-quests ideas for gaining various tribal alliances....it won't leave a vacuum.

[devinpatterson]

Devin please stick to the idea that this mod is set up north. It would be amazing if it would be ala "Pathfinder" (the movie). Snow, Indians, Mountain, Stealth wow!!! I can't describe it. Please make sure this is down up north.

 

To be honest we're kind of boxed in because of existing lore. This post (14) has the details. But the short story is;

 

 

So I was thinking of having the location within 200(ish) miles of the mojave. Moving around north of new vegas, into the southern parts of NV & UT using the Zion area and dipping into northern AZ when the conflict with the legion really picks up in the mod. Partly because of lore, but also because it's an area I feel would go well with the story, and it's the area I have a little knowledge of.

 

So a little ways north. But re: the snow, keep in mind that elevation has a lot to do with it too. For instance Flagstaff (around 7k feet) is south of Nevada but they get plenty of snow, for potential ambushes :thumbsup:

 

And thanks for reminding me of Pathfinder, great source for ideas on this mod.

[greenknightfury]

We have the continental divide mountains to play with at the western edge of the map *chuckles* so elevation isn't that much of a problem. In fact there's a thread I was commenting quite a bit on about a ski resort mod idea lol, and heck you get snow around Jacobstown.