Constant crashing in Oblivion Realms.

[RetroNutcase]

Well, topic says it all. I dunno what's causing it, but whenever I get a "Loading Area" message in an Oblivion Plane (the Kvatch one to be specific), CTD. It's basically gotten to the point I can't play, because if I take any number of steps in an Oblivion plane...CRASH. I can't get out, much less get further in.

 

Here's my load order, and I'm running OBSE v20. If anyone can help, I'd appreciate it. I want to actually finish this game ONCE before Skyrim comes out.

Oh yeah, I've removed a few files since I posted this as I found they were redundant and might have been causing problems. Unfortunately, the issue remains.

 

 

Active Mod Files:
00  Oblivion.esm
01  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.34]
02  UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp  [Version 1.0.0] (NOTE-Removed from load order, bash patch function used)
03  Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp (NOTE-Removed from load order)
04  DLCShiveringIsles.esp
05  Natural_Weather_HDR_with_darker_Nights_by_Max_Tael.esp (NOTE-Removed from load order due to redundancy.)
06  Natural_Weather_HDR_with_darker_Nights_by_Max_Tael_RD.esp
07  Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp
08  Natural_Water_by_Max_Tael.esp
++  Symphony of Violence.esp
09  MIS.esp
0A  MIS New Sounds Optional Part.esp
0B  Atmospheric Oblivion.esp
0C  Storms & Sound.esp
0D  WindowLightingSystem.esp
0E  AliveWaters.esp
0F  AliveWaters - Koi Addon.esp
10  AliveWaters - Slaughterfish Addon.esp
11  Living Economy.esp
12  Living Economy - Items.esp
13  Cutthroat Merchants.esp
14  Streamline 3.1.esp
15  DLCHorseArmor.esp
16  DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.6]
17  DLCOrrery.esp
18  DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]
19  DLCVileLair.esp
1A  DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.6]
1B  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
1C  DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]
1D  DLCSpellTomes.esp
++  DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.1]
1E  DLCThievesDen.esp
1F  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.7]
20  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp  [Version 1.0.4]
21  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.34]
++  OOO-Water_Weeds.esp  [Version 1.33]
22  OOO-Map_Markers_Stock.esp  [Version 1.33]
++  OMOBS.esp  [Version 1.0]
++  OMOBS_SI.esp  [Version 1.0]
23  OOO-WaterFish.esp  [Version 1.34]
24  DLCBattlehornCastle.esp
25  DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]
26  DLCFrostcrag.esp
27  DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]
28  Knights.esp
29  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.1]
2A  xuldarkforest.esp  [Version 1.0.5]
2B  xulStendarrValley.esp  [Version 1.2.2]
2C  xulTheHeath.esp
2D  XulEntiusGorge.esp
2E  xulFallenleafEverglade.esp  [Version 1.3.1]
2F  xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp  [Version 1.2.1]
30  xulChorrolHinterland.esp  [Version 1.2.2]
31  xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp  [Version 1.6.4]
32  xulBravilBarrowfields.esp  [Version 1.3.2]
33  xulLushWoodlands.esp  [Version 1.3.1]
34  xulAncientYews.esp  [Version 1.4.3]
35  xulAncientRedwoods.esp  [Version 1.6]
36  xulCloudtopMountains.esp  [Version 1.0.3]
37  xulArriusCreek.esp  [Version 1.1.3]
38  xulPatch_AY_AC.esp  [Version 1.1]
39  xulRollingHills_EV.esp  [Version 1.3.2]
3A  xulPantherRiver.esp
3B  xulRiverEthe.esp  [Version 1.0.2]
3C  xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp  [Version 1.1]
3D  xulImperialIsle.esp  [Version 1.6.6]
3E  xulBlackwoodForest.esp  [Version 1.1.0]
3F  xulCheydinhalFalls.esp  [Version 1.0.1]
40  xulAspenWood.esp  [Version 1.0.2]
41  xulSkingradOutskirts.esp  [Version 1.0.1]
42  xulSnowdale.esp  [Version 1.0]
43  Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp
44  Harvest [Flora].esp  [Version 3.0.0]
++  Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.0.0]
++  Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp  [Version 3.0.0]
45  Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp  [Version 3.0.0]
46  BlackScreenSneakFix.esp
47  Speedy Disrobe OBSE.esp  [Version 1.3]
48  Quest Award Leveller.esp  [Version 2.0.1]
49  Quest Award Leveller - Vile Lair.esp  [Version 2.1.0]
++  Quest Award Leveller - Mehrunes Razor.esp  [Version 2.1.0]
4A  Quest Award Leveller - Knights of the Nine.esp  [Version 2.1.0]
4B  SupremeMagicka.esp  [Version 0.90b]
4C  SM_ShiveringIsles.esp  [Version 0.90]
++  SM_DLCSpellTome.esp  [Version 0.90]
++  SM_OOO.esp  [Version 0.90]
4D  SM_EnchantStaff.esp  [Version 0.90]
++  SM_Scrolls.esp  [Version 0.90]
++  SM_SigilStone.esp  [Version 0.90]
4E  SM Combat Hide.esp  [Version 1.2]
4F  DocBlock.esp
50  Sneaking Detection Recalibrated.esp
51  All+5AttributeModifiers.esp
++  OOO-Level_Stock.esp  [Version 1.33]
52  bgMagicEV.esp  [Version 1.7EV]
++  bgMagicSpellTomes_for_WryeBash.esp  [Version 1.68EV]
++  bgMagicItemSigil.esp  [Version 1.68EV]
++  bgMagicEVStartspells.esp  [Version 1.68EV]
53  bgMagicBonus.esp  [Version 1.7EV]
++  bgMagicEVAddEnVar.esp  [Version 1.68EV]
54  bgMagicEVPaperChase.esp  [Version 1.68EV]
55  bgMagicAlchemy.esp  [Version 1.57]
56  bgMagicPotionNumberSoulGemValue.esp  [Version 1.68UV]
++  bgMagicEV_Conjuration_for_Supreme_Magicka.esp  [Version 1.7.7]
57  bgMagicEVShader.esp  [Version 1.7EV]
++  bgMagicShaderLifeDetect.esp  [Version 1.68]
58  bgMagicLightningbolt.esp
59  Bashed Patch, 0.esp

 

Edited October 8, 2011 by RetroNutcase

[TrueOrigin]

Certain things like that are usually mesh issues because a VERY important mesh is either missing or corrupt. Do any of your mods change anything with the Oblivion Realms environment(sorry I don't know what a lot of your mods do) Edited October 8, 2011 by TrueOrigin

[MShoap13]

Start removing your mods a few at a time and see if it begins working, I'd start with the weather mods and streamline.

[RetroNutcase]

Well, the culprit was Max Tael's weather mod. Taking it out and replacing it with All Natural fixed THAT problem, but now I have a new problem. CTDs occuring under the following conditions:

 

-On fast travel

-On removing equipped armor

-On enchanting an item with a Sigil Stone while it's equipped

-On loading a save after I've resumed my game (Never had a crash when loading a save from main menu)

 

All of these are random, I've found no way to 100% re-create the crashes like with the Oblivion Plane crash. My revised load order is below.

 

 

Active Mod Files:
00  Oblivion.esm
01  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 1.3]
02  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.34]
03  Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp
04  DLCShiveringIsles.esp
05  All Natural.esp  [Version 1.3]
06  All Natural - SI.esp  [Version 1.3]
++  Symphony of Violence.esp
07  MIS.esp
08  MIS New Sounds Optional Part.esp
09  Atmospheric Oblivion.esp
0A  Storms & Sound.esp
0B  All Natural - Real Lights.esp  [Version 1.3]
0C  WindowLightingSystem.esp
0D  AliveWaters.esp
0E  AliveWaters - Koi Addon.esp
0F  AliveWaters - Slaughterfish Addon.esp
10  Living Economy.esp
11  Living Economy - Items.esp
12  Cutthroat Merchants.esp
13  Streamline 3.1.esp
14  DLCHorseArmor.esp
15  DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.6]
16  DLCOrrery.esp
17  DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]
18  DLCVileLair.esp
19  DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.6]
1A  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
1B  DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]
1C  DLCSpellTomes.esp
++  DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.1]
1D  DLCThievesDen.esp
1E  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.7]
1F  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp  [Version 1.0.4]
20  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.34]
++  OOO-Water_Weeds.esp  [Version 1.33]
21  OOO-Map_Markers_Stock.esp  [Version 1.33]
++  OMOBS.esp  [Version 1.0]
++  OMOBS_SI.esp  [Version 1.0]
22  OOO-WaterFish.esp  [Version 1.34]
23  DLCBattlehornCastle.esp
24  DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]
25  DLCFrostcrag.esp
26  DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]
27  Knights.esp
28  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.1]
29  xuldarkforest.esp  [Version 1.0.5]
2A  xulStendarrValley.esp  [Version 1.2.2]
2B  xulTheHeath.esp
2C  XulEntiusGorge.esp
2D  xulFallenleafEverglade.esp  [Version 1.3.1]
2E  xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp  [Version 1.2.1]
2F  xulChorrolHinterland.esp  [Version 1.2.2]
30  xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp  [Version 1.6.4]
31  xulBravilBarrowfields.esp  [Version 1.3.2]
32  xulLushWoodlands.esp  [Version 1.3.1]
33  xulAncientYews.esp  [Version 1.4.3]
34  xulAncientRedwoods.esp  [Version 1.6]
35  xulCloudtopMountains.esp  [Version 1.0.3]
36  xulArriusCreek.esp  [Version 1.1.3]
37  xulPatch_AY_AC.esp  [Version 1.1]
38  xulRollingHills_EV.esp  [Version 1.3.2]
39  xulPantherRiver.esp
3A  xulRiverEthe.esp  [Version 1.0.2]
3B  xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp  [Version 1.1]
3C  xulImperialIsle.esp  [Version 1.6.6]
3D  xulBlackwoodForest.esp  [Version 1.1.0]
3E  xulCheydinhalFalls.esp  [Version 1.0.1]
3F  xulAspenWood.esp  [Version 1.0.2]
40  xulSkingradOutskirts.esp  [Version 1.0.1]
41  xulSnowdale.esp  [Version 1.0]
42  Harvest [Flora].esp  [Version 3.0.0]
++  Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.0.0]
++  Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp  [Version 3.0.0]
43  Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp  [Version 3.0.0]
44  BlackScreenSneakFix.esp
45  Speedy Disrobe OBSE.esp  [Version 1.3]
46  Quest Award Leveller.esp  [Version 2.0.1]
47  Quest Award Leveller - Vile Lair.esp  [Version 2.1.0]
++  Quest Award Leveller - Mehrunes Razor.esp  [Version 2.1.0]
48  Quest Award Leveller - Knights of the Nine.esp  [Version 2.1.0]
49  SupremeMagicka.esp  [Version 0.90b]
4A  SM_ShiveringIsles.esp  [Version 0.90]
++  SM_DLCSpellTome.esp  [Version 0.90]
++  SM_OOO.esp  [Version 0.90]
4B  SM_EnchantStaff.esp  [Version 0.90]
++  SM_Scrolls.esp  [Version 0.90]
++  SM_SigilStone.esp  [Version 0.90]
4C  SM Combat Hide.esp  [Version 1.2]
4D  DocBlock.esp
4E  Sneaking Detection Recalibrated.esp
4F  All+5AttributeModifiers.esp
++  OOO-Level_Stock.esp  [Version 1.33]
50  bgMagicEV.esp  [Version 1.7EV]
++  bgMagicSpellTomes_for_WryeBash.esp  [Version 1.68EV]
++  bgMagicItemSigil.esp  [Version 1.68EV]
++  bgMagicEVStartspells.esp  [Version 1.68EV]
51  bgMagicBonus.esp  [Version 1.7EV]
++  bgMagicEVAddEnVar.esp  [Version 1.68EV]
52  bgMagicEVPaperChase.esp  [Version 1.68EV]
53  bgMagicAlchemy.esp  [Version 1.57]
54  bgMagicPotionNumberSoulGemValue.esp  [Version 1.68UV]
55  bgMagicEVShader.esp  [Version 1.7EV]
++  bgMagicShaderLifeDetect.esp  [Version 1.68]
56  bgMagicLightningbolt.esp
**  All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp  [Version 1.3]
57  Bashed Patch, 0.esp

 

 

Oh yeah, something that has confused the heck out of me...The whole "Don't use UOP and such if you use OMOBS" thing. Are the UOP patches bundled with OMOBS? Or just MOBS? And what's this I hear about updated supplementals? Google has done nothing to help me in finding these, so I'm wanting to be sure I'm up to date on my unofficial patches. But more importantly, I also want these random crashes to go away. Whenever I'm travelling through a large dungeon, I seem to be fine. Towns...usually fine. The majority of the crashes are on the situations described above.

[MShoap13]

Streamline increases my crash chances upon fast travel, save, load, area change (going through a door), etc. etc.. It's recommended to completely turn off autosaves and just use streamsaves but that didn't help for me so I just got rid of streamline as I have plenty of RAM to let Oblivion leak for the amount of time I play.

 

UOP Supplementals are there. And I have no Idea about your equipment related crashes, OMOBS or MOBS so...

[RetroNutcase]

I'm not sure how much it helps, but on occasion, changing my equipment generates a C++ Runtime Error before the usual CTD. This has, lately, been the primary cause of my crashes (And probably the most annoying, any time I change equipment I risk it!).

 

Can anyone think of anything that might be causing this? I would assume that this means there's some kind of inventory/item conflict somewhere, but I can't really narrow it down...

[MShoap13]

Try closing out background processes before starting Oblivion. I recommend Game Booster to help with doing this. Edited October 11, 2011 by MShoap13