Clearing the air

[madgamer]

I have been a bit busy for a few days after I posted the thread about locking threads on the "Big B' forum. I need to say two thing here for your consideration. First I am in favor of having some kind of control on forums because to many times some threads just go on and on with no real purpose except for some of us to put in our 2 cents worth or get involved in mild to heavy flaming. It is therefore true that any form of closing a thread is a form of censorship. It is better to lock the thread than expel the person from the forum as I have seen in other forums. I was just wondering because I did not see a reason for locking some of the thread's except that there might be something said about the company or its products that may not have been positive.

The other reason I have for this thread is something mentioned in on of the posts. I to have seen good companies get big and then loose touch with or do not listen to those who have put them where they are. I do not think that the "Big B' is as bad as some but I think they need to consider some things that have been mentioned here. They would do well to consider coming out with a se3cond version of a game(s) that have done well in the market such AS ES 3 and soon es 4. I can't believe that there market folks can't see that a game like ES 3 is developed and they could up date say the combat, and graphics and move the time line up a bit and change the story line a bit and issue Elder Scrolls 3 Second Edition. Sure there have been some real bad games that tried to get more money by doing this but the ES series is so popular that I think every person who has bought either or both of the last 2 in the series would buy a second or third edition. Can't they figure out instead of new games forever they could release new chapters of the games.

I mean they R & D has been done on them and I for one like playing in the same place with new plots and other such things. They do not have to change the locations or the guilds but just add a new story. If I had the time I would set up a poll and ask you all If you would buy a second edition of say ES 3 & 4. I know I would.

I do agree that this is a great forum and a great site as well and plan to hang out here. Feel free to email me if you need help. Thanks for the welcome,

 

Lawrence

[TheTerminator2004]

There was already a very long thread on the BGS forums, explaining in great detail exactly why it would be in BethSoft's own interests to do a remake of Morrrowind, but they ignored it.

[dangle]

i think that just like musicians, and sports stars, the game designers have to evolve or they will become flat. In doing so, of course they are going to upset some people. If they were to keep on adding some chapters to morrowind (which i would be very impressed with) in ten years time, they will have slipped behind the technology gap. Morrowind chapter 10 would be trying in vain to compete with new games with unreal features. It would be like comparing Tabula Rasa to Arena, but both games retailing for the same price. i know what i'd be picking.

[madgamer]

i think that just like musicians, and sports stars, the game designers have to evolve or they will become flat. In doing so, of course they are going to upset some people. If they were to keep on adding some chapters to morrowind (which i would be very impressed with) in ten years time, they will have slipped behind the technology gap. Morrowind chapter 10 would be trying in vain to compete with new games with unreal features. It would be like comparing Tabula Rasa to Arena, but both games retailing for the same price. i know what i'd be picking.

 

I agree with what most of what you say is true but new chapters to say Morrowind or Oblivion would use what ever the latest tech advances are. There would be a point where you would run out of ideas I suppose for new chapters. My gaming interests run to RPG,simulations, and some older games. I don't buy FPS or real time games (if I can avoid doing so) but play games such as War in the Pacific or ACW and the like, so just because a game has the latest greatest state of the art everything is not going to get my money unless I like the game and its subject, but then I am an old dude so what do I know,

 

Lawrence

[TheTerminator2004]

The idea with the Morrowind remake, I believe, was that it would have exactly the same story, etc, it would just have better graphics, and a more efficient engine. What people wanted was for Bethesda to either:

 

a) Do their own remake of Morrowind, using their own dev team. This would mean they'd get all the profits, but they'd have to pay to have it made.

b) Release the source code to the public, allowing members of the community to remake it themselves.

or c) Release the source code to certain trusted members of the community who have the skills to do it, and who offered to make it. They even offered to do it for free, and then allow Bethsoft to sell it themselves, and say it was made by BGS.

 

BethSoft just ignored it however, despite several people doing a fairly accurate estimation of how much money they'd make from it.

 

A shame really, but there you go. It's not gonna happen.

[dangle]

yeah, i am a massive fan of morrowind, and a few tech advances would be awesome, but the story was already fairly complete. Having outsiders add to it with new chapters would be allowing possible errors with the lore of the story (which would be inevitable with such a complex saga). Also perhaps Beth had ideas about TESV and adding to TESIII could conflict with their new ideas. Most people would understand that Beth didn't make it, but it might make them look unprofessional having those conflicts. It wouldn't bother me, but it would still be a bit risky for Beth to agree put it's name on a sponsoring a major product with so much uncertainty. It might not be worth the massive profit.

[herosinger]

There are always people who think they know best. If Bethesda remade Morrowind, there would be an outcry as well. People would say that they were milking their loyal fans for money instead of making new material. In my opinion, Morrowind is fantastic the way it is. Mods go a long way towards fixing some of the things that hinder it, and the Morrowind modding community is still very much alive.