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Hold on to your panties (Need help, CTD on startup)


Grimzkhul

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Much like most of you, I'm a compulsive modder... I tend to see something shiny, then I add it... anyways...

This is my load order/mod list, if you need more detail I'd be happy to provide it. That being said, NMM is up to date, I'm running the latest version of all mods (or up to the version I need), running the latest NON-beta version of F4 with all DLC installed and F4SE is using the right version as well. I'm just at a loss as to why this isn't loading...

So here's the load order copied with LOOT's copy load order tool, let me know if I can provide info in any way:

  • 0 0 Fallout4.esm
  • 1 1 DLCRobot.esm
  • 2 2 DLCworkshop01.esm
  • 3 3 DLCCoast.esm
  • 4 4 ArmorKeywords.esm
  • 5 5 SettlementKeywords.esm
  • 6 6 ConcealedArmor.esm
  • 7 7 SpringCleaning.esm
  • 8 8 Robot Home Defence.esm
  • 9 9 Snap'n Build.esm
  • 10 a Homemaker.esm
  • 11 b Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch.esp
  • 12 c OCDispenser.esp
  • 13 d OCDecorator - No Experience.esp
  • 14 e OCDecorator.esp
  • 15 f Elvani's Track Pack - FIX.esp
  • 16 10 Simple Intersection.esp
  • 17 11 SkibsWeaponsMerged-AWKCR.esp
  • 18 12 Crossbow.esp
  • 19 13 AK2047.esp
  • 20 14 DD_AIO_I_Hate_You_All.esp
  • 21 15 DD_I_Ran_Out_Of_Funny_Names.esp
  • 22 16 CTHHostileNPCsAndWeaponDrawn.esp
  • 23 17 PowerArmorAutopilot.esp
  • 24 18 LongerPowerLines3x.esp
  • 25 19 DeadBodyCollision.esp
  • 26 1a PipBoyShadows.esp
  • 27 1b BoS Pilot Outfit Fix.esp
  • 28 1c Fr4nssonsLightTweaks.esp
  • 29 1d timetravel.esp
  • 30 1e MoreWeaves.esp
  • 31 1f BetterArmorModDescriptions.esp
  • 32 20 PA_Materials_Paints.esp
  • 33 21 BetterArmorModDescriptionsPAMAP.esp
  • 34 22 More Where That Came From Diamond City.esp
  • 35 23 Realistic Death Physics.esp
  • 36 24 dD-Enhanced Blood.esp
  • 37 25 AnS Wearable Backpacks and Pouches.esp
  • 38 26 AnS Wearable Backpacks and Pouches - Ballistic Weave.esp
  • 39 27 AnS Wearable Backpacks and Pouches - Power Armor Carry Capacity.esp
  • 40 28 Lore Friendly Posters.esp
  • 41 29 BusySettlers.esp
  • 42 2a BusySettlersRug.esp
  • 43 2b Brotherhood of Steel Kit.esp
  • 44 2c Guard Chair - D3.esp
  • 45 2d Guard Chair - D6.esp
  • 46 2e Guard Rug - D3.esp
  • 47 2f Guard Rug - D6.esp
  • 48 30 Guard Rug - D1.esp
  • 49 31 IncreasedSettlerPopulation50.esp
  • 50 32 ConstructionLight_Medium_Shadows.esp
  • 51 33 DD_All_the_COncrete.esp
  • 52 34 LegendaryModification.esp
  • 53 35 BetterArmorModDescriptionsLM.esp
  • 54 36 LegendaryModificationMisc.esp
  • 55 37 BetterArmorModDescriptionsLMMisc.esp
  • 56 38 LegendaryModificationCSA.esp
  • 57 39 BetterArmorModDescriptionsLMCSA.esp
  • 58 3a LegendaryModificationGroknak.esp
  • 59 3b BetterArmorModDescriptionsLMGroknak.esp
  • 60 3c BOS_X01_Paintjobs.esp
  • 61 3d DV-Deadly Vertibirds.esp
  • 62 3e DV-Armored Pilots.esp
  • 63 3f DV-No Levelled Vertibirds.esp
  • 64 40 ICPA.esp
  • 65 41 ASCOCait02.esp
  • 66 42 ASCOCurie01.esp
  • 67 43 ASCODanse01.esp
  • 68 44 ASCOMacCready01.esp
  • 69 45 ASCOPiper02.esp
  • 70 46 SC_ExpandedScrapList.esp
  • 71 47 Cuts and Blunts 3.0.esp
  • 72 48 m82a.esp
  • 73 49 DX Adventurer Outfit.esp
  • 74 4a CutWeaponModsRestored.esp
  • 75 4b BetterArmor&WeaponNaming_by_Ruddy88.esp
  • 76 4c Craftable Armor Size - Fix Material Requirements.esp
  • 77 4d CutWeaponModsRestored-UniqueWeaponModRecipes.esp
  • 78 4e Reverb and Ambiance Overhaul.esp
  • 79 4f DD_M79_Launcher_woooot.esp
  • 80 50 LK05.esp
  • 81 51 ModularKalash.esp
  • 82 52 R91M.esp
  • 83 53 M14.esp
  • 84 54 M1911.esp
  • 85 55 ASVektor.esp
  • 86 56 Armorsmith Extended.esp
  • 87 57 Minutemenoverhaul.esp
  • 88 58 EndorsCustomCombatArmor.esp
  • 89 59 RaiderOverhaul.esp
  • 90 5a ConcealedArmor.esp
  • 91 5b Paintable Helmets.esp
  • 92 5c Craftable Armor Size.esp
  • 93 5d BetterArmorModDescriptionsCAS.esp
  • 94 5e Scavvers of the Commonwealth.esp
  • 95 5f BasementLiving.esp
  • 96 60 EndorsCustomCombatArmor_AE.esp
  • 97 61 Combat_Helmet_Illumination 1.2.esp
  • 98 62 Armorsmith Automatron.esp
  • 99 63 Armorsmith Far Harbor.esp
  • 100 64 Eli_ArmourCollection.esp
  • 101 65 BetterSettlers.esp
  • 102 66 ChildSettlers.esp
  • 103 67 BetterSettlersNoLollygagging.esp
  • 104 68 BetterSettlersMortalPack.esp
  • 105 69 Campsite.esp
  • 106 6a Campsite-AWKCR.esp
  • 107 6b Eli_Armour Stands.esp
  • 108 6c SettlersRename.esp
  • 109 6d EveryonesBestFriend.esp
  • 110 6e WeaponRacks.esp
  • 111 6f FunctionalDisplays-MISC-Vanilla.esp
  • 112 70 FunctionalDisplays-Weapons-CWMR.esp
  • 113 71 FunctionalDisplays-Drinks-Vanilla.esp
  • 114 72 Grasslands - Unhealthy.esp
  • 115 73 Grasslands - Unhealthy - Extreme.esp
  • 116 74 NX Pro - Farm Core.esp
  • 117 75 NX Pro - Harvest Overhaul.esp
  • 118 76 NX Pro - Farm Core - Homemaker.esp
  • 119 77 NX Pro - Farm Core - Spring Cleaning.esp
  • 120 78 SuperMutantOverhaul.esp
  • 121 79 MovableWorkshop.esp
  • 122 7a Scavenged NCR Armor.esp
  • 123 7b SatelliteWorldMap.esp
  • 124 7c Hoodless Scribe Hat.esp
  • 125 7d ImmersiveVendors.esp
  • 126 7e zWInsanity.esp
  • 127 7f Jacket.esp
  • 128 80 DD_Khassar_De_Templari_Increased_build.esp
  • 129 81 mysteriousmagnum.esp
  • 130 82 Spartan-Calyps.esp
  • 131 83 RangerSequoia.esp
  • 132 84 Survivalist GoBag - 75lbs.esp
  • 133 85 WO-L96.esp
  • 134 86 WO-ScarH.esp
  • 135 87 WO-G3.esp
  • 136 88 WO-AK47.esp
  • 137 89 WO-G20.esp
  • 138 8a Wasteland Ordnance Merged.esp
  • 139 8b SpotlightFix-150-Shadow.esp
  • 140 8c AdvBubbleTurretSet-Real.esp
  • 141 8d Armorsmith Elianora Extended.esp
  • 142 8e AWKCRPatch-UFO4P.esp
  • 143 8f GlovesOfTheCommonwealth.esp
  • 144 90 M9.esp
  • 145 91 M9 Pistol New Grips.esp
  • 146 92 YogHarleyBat.esp
  • 147 93 GruffyddsSignsAndPosters.esp
  • 148 94 SignsOfTheTimesCategorized.esp
  • 149 95 Glock20.esp
  • 150 96 Move (Get Out the Way).esp
  • 151 97 No Combat Boundaries.esp
  • 152 98 AzarPonytailHairstyles.esp
  • 153 99 Friffy_Fixed Curtains.esp
  • 154 9a Search and Destroy.esp
  • 155 9b THBrows.esp
  • 156 9c Toxic Raider Armour.esp
  • 157 9d UniquePlayer.esp
  • 158 9e OctaviusSentibar_Labels.esp
  • 159 9f DarkerNights.esp
  • 160 a0 TrueStormsFO4.esp
  • 161 a1 TrueStormsFO4-ClimateSettings.esp
  • 162 a2 TrueStormsFO4-GlowingSeaExtraRads.esp
  • 163 a3 DarkerNightsDetection.esp
  • 164 a4 BetterNightVision.esp
  • 165 a5 DarkerNights-FarHarbor.esp
  • 166 a6 DarkerNights-TrueStorms.esp
  • 167 a7 Radiant Clouds and Fogs.esp
  • 168 a8 DarkerNights-Radiant.esp
  • 169 a9 Crafting Workbench.esp
  • 170 aa Crafting Workbenches - Ammo.esp
  • 171 ab Crafting Workbenches - Ammo Expanded.esp
  • 172 ac Crafting Workbenches - Automatron DLC.esp
  • 173 ad Crafting Workbenches - Faction and Quest Requirements.esp
  • 174 ae BuildableBurningCampfires.esp
  • 175 af CommonwealthSurvivalist.esp
  • 176 b0 AK2047 - AWKCR Compatibility.esp
  • 177 b1 M9 - AWKCR Compatibility.esp
  • 178 b2 R91M - AWKCR Compatibility.esp
  • 179 b3 CommonwealthSurvivalist - AWKCR Compatibility.esp
  • 180 b4 GlovesOfTheCommonwealth - AWKCR Compatibility.esp
  • 181 b5 NewSurvivalFairDamagex2.esp
  • 182 b6 Survivalist.esp
  • 183 b7 SMC.esp
  • 184 b8 BetterJunkFences.esp
  • 185 b9 Smoke-able Cigars.esp
  • 186 ba SkjAlert_All_DLC.esp
  • 187 bb mk14.esp
  • 188 bc M4A1.esp
  • 189 bd M4A1_Rebalance01.esp
  • 190 be keyNuker.esp
  • 191 bf keyNuker_DLC01.esp
  • 192 c0 keyNuker_DLC03.esp
  • 193 c1 chem redux.esp
  • 194 c2 Business Settlements.esp
  • 195 c3 Journey.esp
  • 196 c4 Minuteman_CB.esp
  • 197 c5 EndorsCustomCombatArmor_CAS.esp
  • 198 c6 Minuteman_CB_ECCA.esp
  • 199 c7 MMP4APA-blue.esp
  • 200 c8 MMP4APA.esp
  • 201 c9 RaiderArmorBuffAWCKR.esp
  • 202 ca EferasShoulderBag.esp
  • 203 cb Wasteland Sniper by Hothtrooper44.esp
  • 204 cc The Rebel.esp
  • 205 cd FieldScribeBackpack.esp
  • 206 ce FieldScribeBackPackLevelList.esp
  • 207 cf Dogmeat's Backpack.esp
  • 208 d0 Eli_Accessories.esp
  • 209 d1 LagrieHelmet.esp
  • 210 d2 MO_HM_OCD_Patch.esp
  • 211 d3 Cait CBBE Standalone 2.esp
  • 212 d4 th1nkEyebot.esp
  • 213 d5 AutomatronSecuritron.esp
  • 214 d6 Northland.esp
  • 215 d7 CompanionsGoHome_A.esp
  • 216 d8 Lots More Female Hairstyles.esp
  • 217 d9 AE Lagrie Helmets - Raider Overhaul - Commonwealth Scavvers Leveled List Patch.esp
  • 218 da LooksMenu.esp
  • 219 db Northland Diggers.esp
  • 220 dc AdvBubbleTurretSet-Real-RHDPatch.esp
  • 221 dd SKE_OCD_Patch.esp
  • 222 de MinutemenPropaganda.esp
  • 223 df MO_Propaganda.esp
  • 224 e0 LegendaryModification - DLC Far Harbor.esp
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Get FO4Edit and run that entire list through it. If it finishes without spitting out an error you have a different problem.

 

The standard question now:

 

Do you have any HUD altering mods? DEF_UI? Pleasant UI? MyHUD? If yes, check for updates for those. Those have no esp files so they ar easily missed. If there aren't any updates deactivate and uninstall them, navigate to your Fallout4/data folder and delete the interface folder. That should fix it.

If you don't have an UI mod installed and FO4Edit shows no error maybe your ini files are somehow wrong but that's rare.

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