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Hey, I am having trouble getting my Bruma house to change from Vanilla-- I've tried installing, activating, and messing with the load order of both "Better Bruma House" and "Bruma House For Sale," but when I go to Bruma it is just the vanilla house inside. I have tried doing clean saves but it won't change from vanilla for either mod.

 

I am using Open Better Cities Bruma, although I wouldn't think that would affect the interior of the house. Any ideas? Help is much appreciated.

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A full load order, preferably posted in a /spoiler tag, would go a long way towards figuring out your issue.

 

Also, my General Beginner's guide post may be of some use here:

Are you running Windows Vista/7 and is your \Steam\ or \Oblivion\ directory in the default location (C:\Program Files\)? If so, Windows UAC is known to cause all kinds of issues while modding Oblivion and it's highly recommended to go ahead and move steam to somewhere Windows UAC doesn't affect, like C:\Games and reinstall Oblivion. If you're on XP you can skip all of this as Windows UAC isn't implemented.

 

Then, go ahead and install OBMM and/or Wrye Bash and run BSA Redirection as your form of Archive Invalidation one time. Without using some form of Archive Invalidation Oblivion has problems with using user created textures and animations instead of the vanilla content. BSA Redirection is the best solution to Archive Invalidation as it's practically fool proof and never needs to be updated after you've done it once.

 

The next step for a Steam installation is to use File Date Changer to roll back the "Last Modified" dates of all of the .bsa archives that come in your Vanilla Oblivion install (plus the DLC of course) to somewhere around 2005. This is necessary for BSA Redirection to work properly.

 

From here, be sure to make at least one character save in Oblivion so that you have a known working standard. I personally recommend playing through the tutorial dungeon (the sewers) up until right before the exit that allows you to change your character's aspects and keeping that save around permanently. This gives you a good testing base for adding mods in the future and you never have to play through the sewers again.

 

Now you're ready to start modding. I'd say take it easy and try something simple like a sword or a simple texture replacer and then go ensure that it's actually taking effect in your game. Moving on you can add other mods, though I recommend installing them one or two at a time and trying them out for a little bit before adding more. This way when an issue does occur (and it's bound to happen) you'll have a pretty good idea of where to start troubleshooting.

 

Here's a list of mods I'd recommend for any Oblivion install whether you're after grossly modded content or not:

The Unofficial Oblivion Patch and the Unofficial Patch Supplementals (Be sure to get the Shivering Isles patch for SI and the Unofficial Official Mods Patch for any other DLC you may be running)

Darn UI or Dark Darn UI

Natural Environments or All Natural

MiniMap

 

Ignore anything pertaining to Steam if you didn't get Oblivion through it.

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All right, then. I should mention that this has been a relatively stable build for a while and the only thing I've changed recently is trying to replace Bruma House Enhanced with either of the two other upgrades I mentioned. Also, I've tried loading the ESPs of the new upgrades both before and after Better Cities, to no avail.

 

Oblivion.esm

Cobl Main.esm

Toaster Says Share v3.esm

TantrivayliaChimer.esm

CM Partners.esm

Better Cities Resources.esm

ScreenEffects.esm

EnhancedWeather.esm

HorseCombatMaster.esm

HeartOftheDead.esp

Knights.esp

DLCShiveringIsles.esp

DLCBattlehornCastle.esp

Cobl Glue.esp

Cobl Si.esp

Cobl Tweaks.esp

Cobl Silent Equip Misc.esp

Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp

OOO-Armor_Perks_WearRate_Repair.esp

OOO-BirthSigns.esp

OOO-Combat_Skills_Perks_Marksmanship.esp

OOO-Dangerous_Traps.esp

OOO-Deadly_Combat.esp

OOO-DLT_Immersion.esp

OOO-Magic_Effects+Enchantments.esp

OOO-Magic_Effects+Spells.esp

OOO-Magic_Game_Settings.esp

OOO-Potions.esp

OOO-ThiefGuild_Difficult.esp

Enhanced Economy.esp

Enhanced Economy - House prices.esp

RealisticFatigue.esp

_Real_Lights.esp

aaaBorsBedrolls.esp

P1DseeYouSleep.esp

Denock Arrows.esp

Fair x2 Spawns v1.0.esp

Drum_Fix.esp

Musical Immersion 1.0.esp

Symphony of Violence.esp

Quest Award Leveller - Battlehorn Castle.esp

Quest Award Leveller - Knights of the Nine.esp

Quest Award Leveller.esp

TimeScaleOptions.esp

FormID Finder4.esp

Blood Elves.esp

_Ren_BeautyPack_full.esp

Reznod_Mannequin_HD[Eng].esp

BattlehornCastleEnhanced.esp

Tantrivaylia.esp

Whispered Warning.esp

Better Dark Brotherhood Sanctuary.esp

BDBS - See You Sleep Patch.esp

BrotherhoodRenewed.esp

Luchaire's Neck Seam Concealer.esp

KDCirclets.esp

KDClothCirclets.esp

ExnemEyeCandy.esp

Colourwheels_Sexy_Sweetclothes.esp

ROADCourtesan.esp

HGEC Evening Dress.esp

FemaleImperialDragonCuirass.esp

R18PN - Bs Bondage.esp

Shdw_Armor Set_Sotonhorian.esp

Hentai_SnowFlower.esp

Castle_Wolfspike.esp

HentaiMania2.esp

HentaiMania2_Merged_Hell.esp

HM2SummonCompatible.esp

Dollparts' Wild Flower Corsets of Cyrodiil.esp

1em_Vilja.esp

1em_Vilja_Neck_Seam_Concealer.esp

1em_Vilja_as_Blood_Elf_by_Xtudo.esp

Vsleepinjail.esp

Ryk_Sandals.esp

Cities Alive At Night.esp

WindowLightingSystem.esp

PCSoundCalisto.esp

ScreenControls.esp

RenGuardOverhaul.esp

Atmospheric Loading Screens - Random Quotes.esp

MIS Low Wind.esp

MIS New Sounds Optional Part.esp

LTDVampireOverhaul.esp

LetThePeopleDrink.esp

CallMount.esp

CallMountStableMaster.esp

Naughty_Joana_01.esp

Slof's Horses Essential.esp

77_Umpa_Animation.esp

actors_in_charge.esp

BasicInstinct.esp

bondage_sex.esp

CTAddPose_ bondage_sex.esp

CTAddPose_v_1.esp

EFGAddPose.esp

Eroblivion.esp

shinyEmotions.esp

Slof's Sexy Anims.esp

StandingJOJO.esp

Chain it!.esp

NaRae Pose - 01 Guide Book.esp

NaRae Pose - 01.esp

RealisticLeveling.esp

RealisticHealth.esp

RealSleep.esp

RealisticForceMedium.esp

RealisticMagicForceMedium.esp

EnhancedWeather.esp

EnhancedWeather - Darker Nights, 50.esp

Get Wet - just droplets.esp

Duke Patricks - Fresh Kills Now Alert The NPCs.esp

Duke Patricks - Actors Can Miss Now.esp

P1DkeyChain.esp

CM Partners.esp

CM Partners Extra NPCs.esp

CM Partners Marker NPCs.esp

CM Partners NPC.esp

CM Partners More NPCs.esp

CM Partners Special NPCs.esp

Nec Mystic High Elf-Remake.esp

Companion Neeshka.esp

Saerileth.esp

DAKaleahSuccubus.esp

DAFeria.esp

CM-BloodElf-Alise.esp

Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp

Tona's_ModsStore.esp

zzEstrus.esp

WaldelfsLevitation.esp

AW_Wings.esp

Hentai_Hana_Dress.esp

HentaiLovelyHouse.esp

StealthOverhaul.esp

Dark Dungeons.esp

Dark Dungeons - SI.esp

Toggleable Quantity Prompt.esp

skycaptains NPCFF.esp

HUD Status Bars.esp

Bruma House For Sale.esp

Better Cities .esp

Better Cities ANVIL.esp

Better Cities BRAVIL.esp

Better Cities BRUMA.esp

Better Cities CHEYDINHAL.esp

Better Cities CHORROL.esp

Better Cities LEYAWIIN.esp

Better Cities SKINGRAD.esp

Better Cities IC Arcane University.esp

Better Cities IC Arena.esp

Better Cities IC Elven Gardens.esp

Better Cities IC Green Emperor Way.esp

Better Cities IC Market.esp

Better Cities IC Prison.esp

Better Cities IC Talos Plaza.esp

Better Cities IC Temple.esp

Better Cities IC Waterfront.esp

Better Cities - COBL.esp

Better Cities - VWD of the IC.esp

Better Cities - Open Better Cities.esp

HentaiSchoolGirlCollection.esp

Deadly Reflex 6 - Timed Block and 250% damage.esp

Mounted_Spellcasting_Deadly_Reflex_Compatible.esp

MassA.I-50.esp

Duke Patricks - BASIC Script Effect Silencer NIF REMOVED.esp

DeadlyReflex 6 - Combat Moves.esp

BladeSong.esp

 

 

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All right, then. I should mention that this has been a relatively stable build for a while and the only thing I've changed recently is trying to replace Bruma House Enhanced with either of the two other upgrades I mentioned. Also, I've tried loading the ESPs of the new upgrades both before and after Better Cities, to no avail.

 

Oblivion.esm

Cobl Main.esm

Toaster Says Share v3.esm

TantrivayliaChimer.esm

CM Partners.esm

Better Cities Resources.esm

ScreenEffects.esm

EnhancedWeather.esm

HorseCombatMaster.esm

HeartOftheDead.esp

Knights.esp

DLCShiveringIsles.esp

DLCBattlehornCastle.esp

Cobl Glue.esp

Cobl Si.esp

Cobl Tweaks.esp

Cobl Silent Equip Misc.esp

Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp

OOO-Armor_Perks_WearRate_Repair.esp

OOO-BirthSigns.esp

OOO-Combat_Skills_Perks_Marksmanship.esp

OOO-Dangerous_Traps.esp

OOO-Deadly_Combat.esp

OOO-DLT_Immersion.esp

OOO-Magic_Effects+Enchantments.esp

OOO-Magic_Effects+Spells.esp

OOO-Magic_Game_Settings.esp

OOO-Potions.esp

OOO-ThiefGuild_Difficult.esp

Enhanced Economy.esp

Enhanced Economy - House prices.esp

RealisticFatigue.esp

_Real_Lights.esp

aaaBorsBedrolls.esp

P1DseeYouSleep.esp

Denock Arrows.esp

Fair x2 Spawns v1.0.esp

Drum_Fix.esp

Musical Immersion 1.0.esp

Symphony of Violence.esp

Quest Award Leveller - Battlehorn Castle.esp

Quest Award Leveller - Knights of the Nine.esp

Quest Award Leveller.esp

TimeScaleOptions.esp

FormID Finder4.esp

Blood Elves.esp

_Ren_BeautyPack_full.esp

Reznod_Mannequin_HD[Eng].esp

BattlehornCastleEnhanced.esp

Tantrivaylia.esp

Whispered Warning.esp

Better Dark Brotherhood Sanctuary.esp

BDBS - See You Sleep Patch.esp

BrotherhoodRenewed.esp

Luchaire's Neck Seam Concealer.esp

KDCirclets.esp

KDClothCirclets.esp

ExnemEyeCandy.esp

Colourwheels_Sexy_Sweetclothes.esp

ROADCourtesan.esp

HGEC Evening Dress.esp

FemaleImperialDragonCuirass.esp

R18PN - Bs Bondage.esp

Shdw_Armor Set_Sotonhorian.esp

Hentai_SnowFlower.esp

Castle_Wolfspike.esp

HentaiMania2.esp

HentaiMania2_Merged_Hell.esp

HM2SummonCompatible.esp

Dollparts' Wild Flower Corsets of Cyrodiil.esp

1em_Vilja.esp

1em_Vilja_Neck_Seam_Concealer.esp

1em_Vilja_as_Blood_Elf_by_Xtudo.esp

Vsleepinjail.esp

Ryk_Sandals.esp

Cities Alive At Night.esp

WindowLightingSystem.esp

PCSoundCalisto.esp

ScreenControls.esp

RenGuardOverhaul.esp

Atmospheric Loading Screens - Random Quotes.esp

MIS Low Wind.esp

MIS New Sounds Optional Part.esp

LTDVampireOverhaul.esp

LetThePeopleDrink.esp

CallMount.esp

CallMountStableMaster.esp

Naughty_Joana_01.esp

Slof's Horses Essential.esp

77_Umpa_Animation.esp

actors_in_charge.esp

BasicInstinct.esp

bondage_sex.esp

CTAddPose_ bondage_sex.esp

CTAddPose_v_1.esp

EFGAddPose.esp

Eroblivion.esp

shinyEmotions.esp

Slof's Sexy Anims.esp

StandingJOJO.esp

Chain it!.esp

NaRae Pose - 01 Guide Book.esp

NaRae Pose - 01.esp

RealisticLeveling.esp

RealisticHealth.esp

RealSleep.esp

RealisticForceMedium.esp

RealisticMagicForceMedium.esp

EnhancedWeather.esp

EnhancedWeather - Darker Nights, 50.esp

Get Wet - just droplets.esp

Duke Patricks - Fresh Kills Now Alert The NPCs.esp

Duke Patricks - Actors Can Miss Now.esp

P1DkeyChain.esp

CM Partners.esp

CM Partners Extra NPCs.esp

CM Partners Marker NPCs.esp

CM Partners NPC.esp

CM Partners More NPCs.esp

CM Partners Special NPCs.esp

Nec Mystic High Elf-Remake.esp

Companion Neeshka.esp

Saerileth.esp

DAKaleahSuccubus.esp

DAFeria.esp

CM-BloodElf-Alise.esp

Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp

Tona's_ModsStore.esp

zzEstrus.esp

WaldelfsLevitation.esp

AW_Wings.esp

Hentai_Hana_Dress.esp

HentaiLovelyHouse.esp

StealthOverhaul.esp

Dark Dungeons.esp

Dark Dungeons - SI.esp

Toggleable Quantity Prompt.esp

skycaptains NPCFF.esp

HUD Status Bars.esp

Bruma House For Sale.esp

Better Cities .esp

Better Cities ANVIL.esp

Better Cities BRAVIL.esp

Better Cities BRUMA.esp

Better Cities CHEYDINHAL.esp

Better Cities CHORROL.esp

Better Cities LEYAWIIN.esp

Better Cities SKINGRAD.esp

Better Cities IC Arcane University.esp

Better Cities IC Arena.esp

Better Cities IC Elven Gardens.esp

Better Cities IC Green Emperor Way.esp

Better Cities IC Market.esp

Better Cities IC Prison.esp

Better Cities IC Talos Plaza.esp

Better Cities IC Temple.esp

Better Cities IC Waterfront.esp

Better Cities - COBL.esp

Better Cities - VWD of the IC.esp

Better Cities - Open Better Cities.esp

HentaiSchoolGirlCollection.esp

Deadly Reflex 6 - Timed Block and 250% damage.esp

Mounted_Spellcasting_Deadly_Reflex_Compatible.esp

MassA.I-50.esp

Duke Patricks - BASIC Script Effect Silencer NIF REMOVED.esp

DeadlyReflex 6 - Combat Moves.esp

BladeSong.esp

 

 

 

I'm assuming no UAC issues and you have BSA Redirection setup properly? The only thing that somewhat sticks out to me is Open Better Cities, though I'm pretty confident it doesn't append the insides of buildings to the exterior city. Are you running Wrye Bash and if so did you update your Bashed Patch afterwards? Did you make a clean save of your game (without the old house mod installed) before installing either of the new ones?

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All right, then. I should mention that this has been a relatively stable build for a while and the only thing I've changed recently is trying to replace Bruma House Enhanced with either of the two other upgrades I mentioned. Also, I've tried loading the ESPs of the new upgrades both before and after Better Cities, to no avail.

 

Oblivion.esm

Cobl Main.esm

Toaster Says Share v3.esm

TantrivayliaChimer.esm

CM Partners.esm

Better Cities Resources.esm

ScreenEffects.esm

EnhancedWeather.esm

HorseCombatMaster.esm

HeartOftheDead.esp

Knights.esp

DLCShiveringIsles.esp

DLCBattlehornCastle.esp

Cobl Glue.esp

Cobl Si.esp

Cobl Tweaks.esp

Cobl Silent Equip Misc.esp

Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp

OOO-Armor_Perks_WearRate_Repair.esp

OOO-BirthSigns.esp

OOO-Combat_Skills_Perks_Marksmanship.esp

OOO-Dangerous_Traps.esp

OOO-Deadly_Combat.esp

OOO-DLT_Immersion.esp

OOO-Magic_Effects+Enchantments.esp

OOO-Magic_Effects+Spells.esp

OOO-Magic_Game_Settings.esp

OOO-Potions.esp

OOO-ThiefGuild_Difficult.esp

Enhanced Economy.esp

Enhanced Economy - House prices.esp

RealisticFatigue.esp

_Real_Lights.esp

aaaBorsBedrolls.esp

P1DseeYouSleep.esp

Denock Arrows.esp

Fair x2 Spawns v1.0.esp

Drum_Fix.esp

Musical Immersion 1.0.esp

Symphony of Violence.esp

Quest Award Leveller - Battlehorn Castle.esp

Quest Award Leveller - Knights of the Nine.esp

Quest Award Leveller.esp

TimeScaleOptions.esp

FormID Finder4.esp

Blood Elves.esp

_Ren_BeautyPack_full.esp

Reznod_Mannequin_HD[Eng].esp

BattlehornCastleEnhanced.esp

Tantrivaylia.esp

Whispered Warning.esp

Better Dark Brotherhood Sanctuary.esp

BDBS - See You Sleep Patch.esp

BrotherhoodRenewed.esp

Luchaire's Neck Seam Concealer.esp

KDCirclets.esp

KDClothCirclets.esp

ExnemEyeCandy.esp

Colourwheels_Sexy_Sweetclothes.esp

ROADCourtesan.esp

HGEC Evening Dress.esp

FemaleImperialDragonCuirass.esp

R18PN - Bs Bondage.esp

Shdw_Armor Set_Sotonhorian.esp

Hentai_SnowFlower.esp

Castle_Wolfspike.esp

HentaiMania2.esp

HentaiMania2_Merged_Hell.esp

HM2SummonCompatible.esp

Dollparts' Wild Flower Corsets of Cyrodiil.esp

1em_Vilja.esp

1em_Vilja_Neck_Seam_Concealer.esp

1em_Vilja_as_Blood_Elf_by_Xtudo.esp

Vsleepinjail.esp

Ryk_Sandals.esp

Cities Alive At Night.esp

WindowLightingSystem.esp

PCSoundCalisto.esp

ScreenControls.esp

RenGuardOverhaul.esp

Atmospheric Loading Screens - Random Quotes.esp

MIS Low Wind.esp

MIS New Sounds Optional Part.esp

LTDVampireOverhaul.esp

LetThePeopleDrink.esp

CallMount.esp

CallMountStableMaster.esp

Naughty_Joana_01.esp

Slof's Horses Essential.esp

77_Umpa_Animation.esp

actors_in_charge.esp

BasicInstinct.esp

bondage_sex.esp

CTAddPose_ bondage_sex.esp

CTAddPose_v_1.esp

EFGAddPose.esp

Eroblivion.esp

shinyEmotions.esp

Slof's Sexy Anims.esp

StandingJOJO.esp

Chain it!.esp

NaRae Pose - 01 Guide Book.esp

NaRae Pose - 01.esp

RealisticLeveling.esp

RealisticHealth.esp

RealSleep.esp

RealisticForceMedium.esp

RealisticMagicForceMedium.esp

EnhancedWeather.esp

EnhancedWeather - Darker Nights, 50.esp

Get Wet - just droplets.esp

Duke Patricks - Fresh Kills Now Alert The NPCs.esp

Duke Patricks - Actors Can Miss Now.esp

P1DkeyChain.esp

CM Partners.esp

CM Partners Extra NPCs.esp

CM Partners Marker NPCs.esp

CM Partners NPC.esp

CM Partners More NPCs.esp

CM Partners Special NPCs.esp

Nec Mystic High Elf-Remake.esp

Companion Neeshka.esp

Saerileth.esp

DAKaleahSuccubus.esp

DAFeria.esp

CM-BloodElf-Alise.esp

Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp

Tona's_ModsStore.esp

zzEstrus.esp

WaldelfsLevitation.esp

AW_Wings.esp

Hentai_Hana_Dress.esp

HentaiLovelyHouse.esp

StealthOverhaul.esp

Dark Dungeons.esp

Dark Dungeons - SI.esp

Toggleable Quantity Prompt.esp

skycaptains NPCFF.esp

HUD Status Bars.esp

Bruma House For Sale.esp

Better Cities .esp

Better Cities ANVIL.esp

Better Cities BRAVIL.esp

Better Cities BRUMA.esp

Better Cities CHEYDINHAL.esp

Better Cities CHORROL.esp

Better Cities LEYAWIIN.esp

Better Cities SKINGRAD.esp

Better Cities IC Arcane University.esp

Better Cities IC Arena.esp

Better Cities IC Elven Gardens.esp

Better Cities IC Green Emperor Way.esp

Better Cities IC Market.esp

Better Cities IC Prison.esp

Better Cities IC Talos Plaza.esp

Better Cities IC Temple.esp

Better Cities IC Waterfront.esp

Better Cities - COBL.esp

Better Cities - VWD of the IC.esp

Better Cities - Open Better Cities.esp

HentaiSchoolGirlCollection.esp

Deadly Reflex 6 - Timed Block and 250% damage.esp

Mounted_Spellcasting_Deadly_Reflex_Compatible.esp

MassA.I-50.esp

Duke Patricks - BASIC Script Effect Silencer NIF REMOVED.esp

DeadlyReflex 6 - Combat Moves.esp

BladeSong.esp

 

 

 

I'm assuming no UAC issues and you have BSA Redirection setup properly? The only thing that somewhat sticks out to me is Open Better Cities, though I'm pretty confident it doesn't append the insides of buildings to the exterior city. Are you running Wrye Bash and if so did you update your Bashed Patch afterwards? Did you make a clean save of your game (without the old house mod installed) before installing either of the new ones?

 

I don't think I made a clean save before putting on Better Bruma House. I have since uninstalled all Bruma house upgrades, made a clean save, and tried both of the new upgrades again... more than once.

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Try starting a new game (this is where that permanent clean save before the sewer grate I talked about earlier comes in handy) with one of the new house mods and the rest of your mod list active and see if the house mod takes affect. It's possible that your old house mod has made changes that were saved to your character file and for some reason cannot be overwritten by one of the new house mods.
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Try starting a new game (this is where that permanent clean save before the sewer grate I talked about earlier comes in handy) with one of the new house mods and the rest of your mod list active and see if the house mod takes affect. It's possible that your old house mod has made changes that were saved to your character file and for some reason cannot be overwritten by one of the new house mods.

 

New game from scratch still has vanilla house after I buy it.... *tears hair out*

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The only thing that makes since is Windows UAC. What version of Windows are you running and is your game installed in a UAC protected area (C:\Program Files)?
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The only thing that makes since is Windows UAC. What version of Windows are you running and is your game installed in a UAC protected area (C:\Program Files)?

Windows 7, but I have Oblivion installed on a separate drive, not in Program Files on the main drive. It's not a UAC thing.

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One of the three(?) mods you named, "Better Bruma House for Sale", claims you still have to buy the furniture. Did you buy the furniture? :unsure:
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