Random CTD's, running 83+ mods...

[NismoTyler]

***Issues completely fixed. Skyrim has been CTD-free since the date of my last post on this thread.***

 

Hey guys; first off THANK YOU for reading this. I will be as descriptive as possible as to my issues regarding my Skyrim experience.

 

I have been installing mods for TES since 2003. I have a VERY firm understanding of how mods, load order, LOOT, NMM etc etc work but I am NOT a guru of everything which is why I am here...

 

MY ISSUE(S): I have near 100 mods installed and have followed (as meticulously as possble) all of the install order/patch/load order/compatibilities lists SUPER closely. Now, I am getting random CTD's while playing. Sometimes I can't load a quick save after and have to resort to loading an autosave or manual save. Also, as a secondary issue, Skyrim seems to be unable to access all of my VRAM (despite SKSE ini tweak) and will load purple/black textures randomly which is fixed by saving and reloading at main menu.

 

MY PC: Windows 10, i7-4790k, 2 way GTX 970's, 500gb SSD, 16gb 1866 RAM, 850w PSU. Only a slight overclock on GPU's, doesn't affect other games.

 

Other info: Skyrim is installed to C:\program files(x86)\steam\steamapps\common\Skyrim, running latest game version, running ALL DLC, NMM, LOOT, SKSE

 

0 0 Skyrim.esm

1 1 Update.esm

2 2 Dawnguard.esm

3 3 HearthFires.esm

4 4 Dragonborn.esm

5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp

6 6 Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm

7 7 ClimatesOfTamriel.esm

8 8 UnlimitedBookshelves.esp

9 9 SkyUI.esp

10 a Dual Sheath Redux.esp

11 b ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp

12 c WetandCold.esp

13 d WetandCold - Ashes.esp

14 e ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp

15 f ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-3.esp

16 10 Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Interiors.esp

17 11 better_torches.esp

18 12 SMIM-DragonbornTernFix.esp

19 13 SMIM-FurnitureChestSnowFix.esp

20 14 SMIM-DungeonsCliffsIceSkirts.esp

21 15 Chesko_WearableLantern.esp

22 16 Better Dynamic Snow.esp

23 17 Moss Rocks - Legendary.esp

24 18 AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp

25 19 dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp

26 1a dD-Reduced Splatter Size.esp

27 1b dD-Reduced Wound Size.esp

28 1c When Vampires Attack.esp

29 1d 3DNPC.esp

30 1e KS Hairdo's.esp

31 1f CalienteVanillaArmorTweaks.esp

32 20 Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dungeons.esp

33 21 Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dawnguard Interiors.esp

34 22 Book Covers Skyrim.esp

35 23 Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp

36 24 SkyFalls + SkyMills + DG + DB.esp

37 25 Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp

38 26 SFO - Dragonborn.esp

39 27 SkyFalls Dragonborn Small waterfalls.esp

40 28 dD-DG-DB-Immersive Creatures EBT Patch.esp

41 29 Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp

42 2a Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp

43 2b WATER DG + DB.esp

44 2c SDO Full-LOD - Waterfall Effects.esp

45 2d Immersive Weapons.esp

46 2e aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp

47 2f Footprints.esp

48 30 OMageReplacerPack.esp

49 31 Males of Skyrim.esp

50 32 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp

51 33 Sundys_Male_Presets.esp

52 34 RealisticHumanoidMovementSpeed.esp

53 35 Reduced Distance NPC Greetings.esp

54 36 Perks Per Level.esp

55 37 RaceMenu.esp

56 38 RaceMenuPlugin.esp

57 39 Inconsequential NPCs.esp

58 3a Run For Your Lives.esp

59 3b Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Minor Cities and Town Interiors.esp

60 3c FNIS.esp

61 3d Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp

62 3e AMB Glass Variants Lore.esp

63 3f Differently Ebony.esp

64 40 Cloaks.esp

65 41 SDO Full-LOD - Whiterun Trundra Creeks.esp

66 42 Populated Cities 2.esp

67 43 SMIM-FarmhouseFlickeringFix.esp

68 44 SMIM-ShackRoofFixes.esp

69 45 SMIM-ShackRoofFixesDragonborn.esp

70 46 Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp

71 47 SDO Full-LOD - Giant Campfires.esp

72 48 Equipping Overhaul.esp

73 49 1nivWICCloaks.esp

74 4a Inconsequential NPCs - Enhancement.esp

75 4b 1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp

76 4c Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp

77 4d OMageCommonRobesV2.esp

78 4e OMageCommonRobespatch.esp

79 4f MoreSoundOptions.esp

80 50 V740T_MGolDinS&M.esp

81 51 CampingKitNorthernRanger.esp

82 52 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp

83 53 Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp

Again, THANK YOU so much for taking the time to read this.

Edited September 1, 2016 by NismoTyler

[jones177]

Hi

 

With your load list you are going to have CTDs. The frequency really depends the resources you have. Skyrim Immersive Creatures can make a cell a no-go area for up to 3 game days. All you can do is go another way. So with that mod alone you can get 3 CTDs in less than an hour, but it my not CTD again for another 12 hours. Mods like Wet & Cold randomly CTD as well.

 

You have the best CPU you can get for this game because it responds to individual thread strength. So know problem there.

 

2 970s should = no GPU stress & 4gb vram is fine for this game. I mention this because I have gotten the black & pink textures but only when my GPU is running over 90% most of the time(tested with SPM). That equals to an hour of playing at 4k with ENB & only managing 35fps. It takes 5 to 7 hours a 2650 X 1440. The only other time I got this with less GPU stress is when I was playing around with ugridtoload over 5.

 

 

This is with a old i7 2600K an 980 ti sc.

 

Later

[NismoTyler]

  On 6/3/2016 at 4:58 PM, jones177 said:

Hi

 

With your load list you are going to have CTDs. The frequency really depends the resources you have. Skyrim Immersive Creatures can make a cell a no-go area for up to 3 game days. All you can do is go another way. So with that mod alone you can get 3 CTDs in less than an hour, but it my not CTD again for another 12 hours. Mods like Wet & Cold randomly CTD as well.

 

You have the best CPU you can get for this game because it responds to individual thread strength. So know problem there.

 

2 970s should = no GPU stress & 4gb vram is fine for this game. I mention this because I have gotten the black & pink textures but only when my GPU is running over 90% most of the time(tested with SPM). That equals to an hour of playing at 4k with ENB & only managing 35fps. It takes 5 to 7 hours a 2650 X 1440. The only other time I got this with less GPU stress is when I was playing around with ugridtoload over 5.

 

 

This is with a old i7 2600K an 980 ti sc.

 

Later

Excellent info! I'm going to deactivate Immersive Creatures and Wet+Cold....I can live without them for now. And yeah, Ugridstoload=9 was beautiful but I had to go back to 5 due to CTD's there...and yes, I started a whole new game ;)

[jones177]

Hi

 

They are booth still on my load list.

 

These mods are very ambitious & to me it is worth putting up with them. I have many more mods that can cause CTDs on my load list. But most only cause problems on weaker rigs. For example I have mods that can go nuts & spawn 20 or so wolves or spiders & in dungeons a 50 or more draugr. To me these are fun but I know that one too many spawns equal instant CTD.

 

My game is at the point that it will not run at all(CTDs) without the skse memory patch. It will also no longer play without ENB/ENBoost. It won't even load with ugridtoload over 5. But at one point could be played without any of these.

I also leaned that GPU stress is a major player when it comes to CTDs. Going from a 980 to a 980 ti I got 50% less CTDs on the same game. I use exactly the same amount of vram. The only difference is the GPU works a lot less. This happens with other Bethesda games as well.

Now I have gone from 2650 X 1440 to 3440 X 1440. With that resolution jump I am back to the CTD levels I got with the 980. To fix it I will be getting a GTX 1080 sc when they come out.

 

Later

[NismoTyler]

  On 6/4/2016 at 10:19 AM, jones177 said:

Hi

 

They are booth still on my load list.

 

These mods are very ambitious & to me it is worth putting up with them. I have many more mods that can cause CTDs on my load list. But most only cause problems on weaker rigs. For example I have mods that can go nuts & spawn 20 or so wolves or spiders & in dungeons a 50 or more draugr. To me these are fun but I know that one too many spawns equal instant CTD.

 

My game is at the point that it will not run at all(CTDs) without the skse memory patch. It will also no longer play without ENB/ENBoost. It won't even load with ugridtoload over 5. But at one point could be played without any of these.

I also leaned that GPU stress is a major player when it comes to CTDs. Going from a 980 to a 980 ti I got 50% less CTDs on the same game. I use exactly the same amount of vram. The only difference is the GPU works a lot less. This happens with other Bethesda games as well.

Now I have gone from 2650 X 1440 to 3440 X 1440. With that resolution jump I am back to the CTD levels I got with the 980. To fix it I will be getting a GTX 1080 sc when they come out.

 

Later

That's some really good input. I disabled those other 2 mods and still got random CTD's so I turned them back on. I can play for about 10-15 minutes and then no matter what I'm doing it will CTD. I could be walking outdoors where there's virtually no enemies aside from some wolves 50ft away and then BAM, CTD. Or, like a few minutes ago before checking this thread again, I was in the Riften Jail sneaking around. I literally found a spot to hide and wasn't moving at all; just watching a guard and then BAM, CTD. So indoors, outdoors, NPC/enemy spawns, none of it seems to matter. The game just gives up after 10-15minutes of play time so I'm constantly F5ing and just firing the game back up :(

[NismoTyler]

I just wanted to say that for the last couple of hours I've been playing CTD-free by utilizing ENBoost and tweaking the enblocal ini to my satisfaction. Here's my enblocal settings if it helps anyone else with 4gb graphics cards...

 

[PROXY]

EnableProxyLibrary=false

InitProxyFunctions=true

ProxyLibrary=other_d3d9.dll

[GLOBAL]

UsePatchSpeedhackWithoutGraphics=true

UseDefferedRendering=false

ForceFakeVideocard=false

[PERFORMANCE]

SpeedHack=true

[MULTIHEAD]

ForceVideoAdapterIndex=false

VideoAdapterIndex=0

[MEMORY]

ExpandSystemMemoryX64=false

ReduceSystemMemoryUsage=true

DisableDriverMemoryManager=false

DisablePreloadToVRAM=false

EnableUnsafeMemoryHacks=false

ReservedMemorySizeMb=256

VideoMemorySizeMb=3968

[WINDOW]

ForceBorderless=false

ForceBorderlessFullscreen=false

[ENGINE]

ForceAnisotropicFiltering=true

MaxAnisotropy=16

EnableVSync=true

AddDisplaySuperSamplingResolutions=false

[LIMITER]

WaitBusyRenderer=false

EnableFPSLimit=false

FPSLimit=0

[iNPUT]

//shift

KeyCombination=16

//f12

KeyUseEffect=123

//home

KeyFPSLimit=36

//num / 106

KeyShowFPS=106

//print screen

KeyScreenshot=44

//enter

KeyEditor=13

//f4

KeyFreeVRAM=115

[ADAPTIVEQUALITY]

Enable=false

Quality=1

DesiredFPS=20.0

[ANTIALIASING]

EnableEdgeAA=false

EnableTemporalAA=false

EnableSubPixelAA=false

EnableTransparencyAA=false

[FIX]

FixGameBugs=true

FixParallaxBugs=true

FixAliasedTextures=true

IgnoreLoadingScreen=false

IgnoreInventory=true

FixSsaoWaterTransparency=true

FixSsaoHairTransparency=true

FixTintGamma=true

RemoveBlur=true

FixSubSurfaceScattering=true

[NismoTyler]

I can't believe it, but I want to report 1 full week without a SINGLE CTD, purple/black texture or error. I've even ADDED a couple mods since the thread started since the game was so stable for 48 hours. After properly installing ENBoost and tweaking the .ini (from last post), I have resolved my issues and REALLY hope that this short-lived thread can help others!