Abramul Posted November 23, 2007 Share Posted November 23, 2007 As there's no "General Mod Talk" analog for Morrowind, this is a somewhat suitable place. "Each event is preceded by Prophecy.But without the hero,there is no Event."-Zurin Arctus | the Underking Verse 1 of the Prophecy of the Five Deaths:Death by flowing fireDeath by rending earthDeath by towering waterDeath by choking ashDeath by bleakest winterYou know the Prophecy, and the Hero is not yet mentioned. What is the Event? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abramul Posted February 23, 2008 Author Share Posted February 23, 2008 The Soul of the Moons is the Heart of the MountainThe Heart of the Mountain is the Stone of the TowerThe Stone of the Tower is the Shield of the Dragon Without a Shield, the Dragon has fallenWithout a Stone, the Tower will fallWithout a Heart, the Mountain awakesDaedra's Pawn has threatened all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewtC Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 Which game is this in context to, Morrowind or Oblivion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abramul Posted March 1, 2008 Author Share Posted March 1, 2008 The setting is Morrowind, a while after the events of Oblivion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doomjockey Posted March 8, 2008 Share Posted March 8, 2008 This is f*ckin' tough. But after a bit of research here's what I have so far: Death by flowing fireDeath by rending earthDeath by towering waterDeath by choking ashDeath by bleakest winter Anyone can say they're natural disasters, but could they represent something more?Flowing fire could definitely come from Red Mountain, but pre-Oblivion since, I believe it's gone dormant after the destruction of the enchantments upon Lorkhan's heart (no more ash storms would at least suggest such a possibility). Hmm if not is the seminal eruption which changed the Chimer to Dunmer. Rending earth is an earthquake, I hope. Not sure when the last time Morrowind had a quake. Open to suggestions. Towering water stumps me. A flood, yes, but of what significance? The only flood I recall comes from a legendary attempt by Vivec to fend off invasion by drowning Morrowind in a flood. Taken alongside the volcanic Red Mountain, this would mean both events have already occurred. Again, choking ash seems to be an effect of pre-Nerevarine activity. Could have happened awhile ago. Bleakest winter is the strangest one yet. It could suggest a calamity akin to nuclear winter perhaps brought on by the effects of a MASSIVE ash storm, but Dunmer history doesn't support this as a preexisting event. But from another angle, given their violent history, it could mean invasion from Skyrim, longtime enemies of the Dunmer. OR the attempted invasion I mentioned earlier which caused the flood: the incursion of Ada'Soom Dir-Kamal, an Akaviri demon from Kamal (aka Snow Hell)Open to suggestions.Look for the one who rose beforeSeek out the one who roams no moreFind you the one who journeyed awaySet free the one who imprisoned staysShort section here, so I'll be brief. I believe the "one who rose before" and the "one who journeyed far away" to be the Nerevarine. He's currently inhabiting his second advent and journeyed far-- "'neath moon and star," sure-- but also to Akavir. No idea who the one imprisoned is. Vivec? The Soul of the Moons is the Heart of the MountainThe Heart of the Mountain is the Stone of the TowerThe Stone of the Tower is the Shield of the Dragon Without a Shield, the Dragon has fallenWithout a Stone, the Tower will fallWithout a Heart, the Mountain awakesDaedra's Pawn has threatened allOk now, very important, I'm 75% sure I got most of this verse puzzled out. "Soul of the Moon" Stumped. Heart of the Mountain could easily be Lorkhan's Heart. The Stone of the Tower could just as easily be the Amulet of Kings which was fashioned by Lorkhan whose heart is a "stone of the tower of Nirn". The Amulet is the Shield of the Dragon used to guard against Oblivion and the encroaching Daedra, the Dragon representing the Dragonborn Septims or Imperial supremacy in general. So where does this put me? Well, I'd say... *runs* Research comes from:ObliviowikiUnnofficial Elder Scrolls PagesThe Imperial Library Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abramul Posted March 12, 2008 Author Share Posted March 12, 2008 This is f*ckin' tough. But after a bit of research here's what I have so far: Death by flowing fireDeath by rending earthDeath by towering waterDeath by choking ashDeath by bleakest winter Anyone can say they're natural disasters, but could they represent something more?Flowing fire could definitely come from Red Mountain, but pre-Oblivion since, I believe it's gone dormant after the destruction of the enchantments upon Lorkhan's heart (no more ash storms would at least suggest such a possibility). Hmm if not is the seminal eruption which changed the Chimer to Dunmer. Rending earth is an earthquake, I hope. Not sure when the last time Morrowind had a quake. Open to suggestions. Towering water stumps me. A flood, yes, but of what significance? The only flood I recall comes from a legendary attempt by Vivec to fend off invasion by drowning Morrowind in a flood. Taken alongside the volcanic Red Mountain, this would mean both events have already occurred. Again, choking ash seems to be an effect of pre-Nerevarine activity. Could have happened awhile ago. Bleakest winter is the strangest one yet. It could suggest a calamity akin to nuclear winter perhaps brought on by the effects of a MASSIVE ash storm, but Dunmer history doesn't support this as a preexisting event. But from another angle, given their violent history, it could mean invasion from Skyrim, longtime enemies of the Dunmer. OR the attempted invasion I mentioned earlier which caused the flood: the incursion of Ada'Soom Dir-Kamal, an Akaviri demon from Kamal (aka Snow Hell)Open to suggestions.One avertable (future) Event is described. Nirnroot. Yellow ebony. 1E 668 and CE 1883.Look for the one who rose beforeSeek out the one who roams no moreFind you the one who journeyed awaySet free the one who imprisoned staysShort section here, so I'll be brief. I believe the "one who rose before" and the "one who journeyed far away" to be the Nerevarine. He's currently inhabiting his second advent and journeyed far-- "'neath moon and star," sure-- but also to Akavir. No idea who the one imprisoned is. Vivec?The initial inspiration for this was Dostoevsky's "The Grand Inquisitor". But what happens if the people learn you have imprisoned one they consider their saviour? Vivec, incidentally, is beneath one more moon than just the Cloven Duality of Masser and Secunda.The Soul of the Moons is the Heart of the MountainThe Heart of the Mountain is the Stone of the TowerThe Stone of the Tower is the Shield of the Dragon Without a Shield, the Dragon has fallenWithout a Stone, the Tower will fallWithout a Heart, the Mountain awakesDaedra's Pawn has threatened allOk now, very important, I'm 75% sure I got most of this verse puzzled out. "Soul of the Moon" Stumped. Heart of the Mountain could easily be Lorkhan's Heart. The Stone of the Tower could just as easily be the Amulet of Kings which was fashioned by Lorkhan whose heart is a "stone of the tower of Nirn". The Amulet is the Shield of the Dragon used to guard against Oblivion and the encroaching Daedra, the Dragon representing the Dragonborn Septims or Imperial supremacy in general.There are other Gods and Kings, other pacts, other barriers...and other vendettas. But when a God is banished, what becomes of the things done under and by his power and authority?So where does this put me? Well, I'd say... *runs* Research comes from:ObliviowikiUnnofficial Elder Scrolls PagesThe Imperial Library Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewtC Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 I'll post something after I've researched it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doomjockey Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 Me too. I've given myself some time to finish re-reading The Brother's Karamazov so I'll have some relevant thoughts quite soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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