Need help with altering the Mysterious Stranger gun

[Shantih]

I've been making a Dr Manhattan Mysterious Stranger mod using Rocketlombax's Brawler body last May and I finally reached the process of testing it.

 

What I did was changing the effect of the weapon and its projectile and make it invisible (with null textures, I didn't change the shooting animations or the reload animations).

 

My experiment using the gun with a player character was conclusive:

 

http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/4538/shootingtest.jpg

 

http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/4703/shootingtest2.jpg

 

But (yes there is a big bad but) whenever I try to enter VATS with the Mysterious Stranger replacer I get a CTD from the weapon.

 

So I need some advice/ideas on what could be causing this and more importantly on ways to fix it.

 

I'm thinking that it has to do with the way the Mysterious Stranger is set to attack or something. I assumed that it would work since it did work fine when the PC used the Mysterious gun.

 

Any ideas/suggestions?

[weijiesen]

I've been making a Dr Manhattan Mysterious Stranger mod using Rocketlombax's Brawler body last May and I finally reached the process of testing it.

 

What I did was changing the effect of the weapon and its projectile and make it invisible (with null textures, I didn't change the shooting animations or the reload animations).

 

My experiment using the gun with a player character was conclusive:

 

http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/4538/shootingtest.jpg

 

http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/4703/shootingtest2.jpg

 

But (yes there is a big bad but) whenever I try to enter VATS with the Mysterious Stranger replacer I get a CTD from the weapon.

 

So I need some advice/ideas on what could be causing this and more importantly on ways to fix it.

 

I'm thinking that it has to do with the way the Mysterious Stranger is set to attack or something. I assumed that it would work since it did work fine when the PC used the Mysterious gun.

 

Any ideas/suggestions?

 

That particular weapon has custom VATS cams my friend

[Shantih]

Sorry I realize I wasn't too clear in my post.

 

When my character uses the gun (made invisible) in VATS it works as you can see in the pictures above but when another character who has the mysterious stranger perk enters VATS then I get a CTD.

 

I assume it's the gun because there is no way that the body/armour would cause that -I've played with several replacers for the mysterious stranger and never had a problem as long as I've left the gun alone.

 

If indeed it's a VATS related cam thing with the gun there is nothing I can do.

 

Thanks for taking the time to reply Weijiesen.

[weijiesen]

Sorry I realize I wasn't too clear in my post.

 

When my character uses the gun (made invisible) in VATS it works as you can see in the pictures above but when another character who has the mysterious stranger perk enters VATS then I get a CTD.

 

I assume it's the gun because there is no way that the body/armour would cause that -I've played with several replacers for the mysterious stranger and never had a problem as long as I've left the gun alone.

 

If indeed it's a VATS related cam thing with the gun there is nothing I can do.

 

Thanks for taking the time to reply Weijiesen.

Right, I've toyed with different replacers too. I found that using a script was the best way for me to replace it entirely, gun included. I wanted to make a small mod that gives you a random chance to see one of 12 different preset Mysterious Strangers, each with a different weapon and stuff, but I too had problems similar to what you said. Long ago I had assumed there were some things about its' specific VATS cams that cause probs. VATS cams are soemtimes set up with 'view zones' so the cam knows where to pivot and what to focus on. Maybe because of that weapon if the cam isn't finding the appropriate data for such things, its mezzed out on you.

[Shantih]

Thanks for the information. I guess I can abandon my plans regarding this project and focus on something that is more within my reach. :happy:

 

Without tampering with the gun it should be possible to make different versions of the Mysterious Stranger... If the different outfits were part of a form or something it should be possible for the game to pick one for the Stranger to wear whenever he would appear in VATS.

 

That's interesting especially since there are masks that can be used to make sure the stranger doesn't look the same.