Problems with CTD

[dragonrebirth]

I've always had a fairly large mod list, I find that vanilla oblivion is no longer playable for me. Anyway, I've recently run into a rather unbearable problem, when I start new games or play my old ones the game freezes after a certain amount of in-game time no matter what. It is different for each file, but eventually every file becomes unplayable. I've really not a great deal of experience with these thing, but here's my load order if anyone might be interested in helping me out.

 

 

 

Oblivion.esm

Morrowind_ob.esm

SoVvM.esm

GlobalSettingsInterface.esm

Cobl Main.esm

Harvest[Containers].esm

Mart's Monster Mod.esm

Kvatch Rebuilt.esm

Better Cities Resources.esm

CM Partners.esm

Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp

DLCShiveringIsles.esp

Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp

Better Cities .esp

LoadingScreens.esp

Natural_Weather_by_Max_Tael.esp

Natural_Weather_HDR_by_Max_Tael.esp

Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp

Natural_Water_by_Max_Tael.esp

Realistic Water.esp

WindowLightingSystem.esp

AliveWaters.esp

AliveWaters - Koi Addon.esp

AliveWaters - Slaughterfish Addon.esp

Akatosh Mount By Saiden Storm.esp

Carcernus Prison.esp

Luchaire's Neck Seam Concealer.esp

merchant chest fix.esp

Reznod_Mannequin.esp

VA_BetterGold.esp

VipCxj_AirSystem.esp

BookTrackerOBSE.esp

Streamline 3.1.esp

DLCHorseArmor.esp

DLCOrrery.esp

DLCVileLair.esp

DLCMehrunesRazor.esp

DLCSpellTomes.esp

MaleBodyReplacerV5.esp

Adonnays Elven Weaponry.esp

arme - excalibur.esp

Armory of the Silver Dragon.esp

MODAssassinsCreed2_Revisited.esp

BlackLuster.esp

Blades Ceremonial Armour.esp

CapesandCloaks.esp

Crossbows of Cyrodiil.esp

Drake Knight Armor and Weapons v1.0.esp

Dread Knight Armor.esp

GizBladeset01OB.esp

Growlfs Animated Hair.esp

Hentai_Compilation.esp

KDCirclets.esp

New Frostmourne Sword by Jojjo v1_0.esp

Nicos Scimitars Back.esp

Nicos Scimitars Side.esp

ShaiyaOutfit.esp

SK_Berserk_v0.6.esp

tda_ScytheModv1.2.esp

tkRapiers.esp

Tyrael Armor.esp

Underworld Armor.esp

Vvardenfell_Imports.esp

BleachOverhaul.esp

R18PN - Eisen Platte Armor.esp

AL_AuroranBattleSteed.esp

AncientTowers.esp

DLCThievesDen.esp

Cobl Glue.esp

Cobl Si.esp

Alluring Potion Bottles v3.esp

Alluring Wine Bottles.esp

Harvest[Containers].esp

Mart's Monster Mod.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Imperial Armor.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Creature Skins.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Foxes.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - City Defences.esp

MMM-Cobl.esp

Morroblivion Conversation.esp

MorroblivionTreeReplacer.esp

MorrowOblivion_World Transport.esp

Halcyon Island.esp

ChargenFix-Thermador.esp

aaaWindSpear.esp

Trade and Commerce.esp

300_Akaviri_Stronghold.esp

Adaman Fortress.esp

Akaviri Imports.esp

AL_Maverick.esp

Vaernlor Manor.esp

allinonebasement.esp

AyleidMarket.esp

Amajor7 Imperial Furniture.esp

Aqua_City_01.esp

AranMathi.esp

Assassin Tripwires.esp

Azure_Palace.esp

Better Dark Brotherhood Sanctuary.esp

BDBS - Assassin Tripwires Patch.esp

BDBS - Chapel Memorial.esp

BHC_Expanded.esp

Cheydinhal Petshop.esp

CV - Templar Fortress.esp

EM_RedRoseManor.esp

Forgotten Tower.esp

FortMalice.esp

Going Rogue.esp

Hentai Mania.esp

JolardHome.esp

Kvatch Rebuilt.esp

Lem - The Scar of Sithis.esp

Lem - Sunken Fortress.esp

GlenvarCastle.esp

MadMagesTowerBASIC.esp

MushroomManorCobl.esp

MolagBalTreasury.esp

MountainTower.esp

mystery of mausoleum.esp

Nascosto Isles 3.esp

Nocturne.esp

Reaper's The Dark Tower.esp

Reaper_Tree_Home.esp

Romuska Fantasy Store.esp

RuneTower.esp

Sbturm_Penthouse.esp

SenTineL's Legendary Weapons And Armors.esp

Septim Mansion.esp

Servant of the Dawn.esp

SkyCastle.esp

SkyrimObservatory.esp

Snow Dragon Temple v1.0.esp

SunderedKeep.esp

TheWellOfMinlorada.esp

Theryon.esp

TempleOfZealotsV2.esp

The_Tower_of_the_Lich_King-4492.esp

Tower_Of_Hadarath.esp

VaultsofCyrodiilBC.esp

VHBloodlines 1.2.esp

Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp

Apachii_Heroes_Store.esp

DLCBattlehornCastle.esp

BattlehornCastleEnhanced.esp

DLCfrostcrag.esp

Kvatch Rebuilt_Frostcrag Reborn.esp

Knights.esp

TOTF.esp

The Lost Spires.esp

Lost Paladins of the Divines.esp

The Mystery of the Dulan cult.esp

HoarfrostCastle.esp

Shadowcrest_Vineyard.esp

ElsweyrAnequina.esp

Reaper's Esmeralda's Desert Manor.esp

SLWA_Anequina_Patch.esp

Castle_Almgard-V2.esp

HentaiMania2.esp

HentaiMania2_Merged_Nightmare.esp

BravilSeaDomes.esp

BravilSeaDomesExpanded.esp

Castle_Seaview.esp

bartholm.esp

Moriarcis.esp

Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp

Real Lava 1.3.esp

P1DkeyChain.esp

Borderless_Cyrodiil-3578.esp

Quest Award Leveling.esp

Quest Award Leveling - Finger of the Mountain.esp

Smite of Order.esp

Mighty Magick - Core.esp

Mighty Magick - Skills.esp

Mighty Magick - Magicka Pool Progression.esp

Mighty Magick - Side Effects.esp

Mighty Magick - Sigil Stones.esp

Mighty Magick - Restore Magicka Potions [Vanilla].esp

MidasSpells.esp

MidasMagicCompanions.esp

FrostcragMidasLab.esp

MidasSpells - MMR Patch.esp

Oblivion XP.esp

Mayu's Animation Overhaul.esp

DMC Stylish - Specialanims.esp

babehair_EV.esp

Cernasite - DragonEyes.esp

CM Partners.esp

AbyssDemon.esp

AinmhiRace-RensBeautyPackFull.esp

Almalexia.esp

Moonshadow Elves - NoSc.esp

_Ren_BeautyPack_full.esp

Ice Elves and Wolf Elves.esp

AinmhiRace.esp

DemonRace.esp

Elves Of Lineage II.esp

IDKRRR_C_race.esp

Wolven Anthros.esp

ahtata dremora.esp

ahtata Ork.esp

Synx.esp

CM Partners Special NPCs.esp

CM Partners NPC.esp

CM Partners More NPCs.esp

CM Partners Marker NPCs.esp

CM Partners Extra NPCs.esp

cmChocolates.esp

cmSashaSonja.esp

kgt_Aida.esp

1em_Vilja.esp

SnowAndHarukoCMPartners.esp

Sonia.esp

DAAanila.esp

DAValeriaCuteElf.esp

DATalitha.esp

DADemons.esp

DASephirothCompanion.esp

DADark Seducers.esp

DAGolden Saint.esp

DALineage2Elves.esp

DASkeleton.esp

Better Cities Full.esp

Better Imperial City.esp

Better Cities - Tears of the Fiend.esp

Better Cities - The Lost Spires.esp

Morroblivion_Chargen_And_Transport_Mod_v8.esp

dragonslayer2-harderhits.esp

Archondwelling.esp

SE Tower.esp

BlackroseDen.esp

WargRiders.esp

sinHHHans' RidableSlaughterFish EV.esp

Mundirs.esp

CM_Piper2.esp

Air Island.esp

Felmoon's Dusk v.1.2.esp

seorin's Phantom Horse.esp

ridable clannfear.esp

EnchantedBroom.esp

Tharanthiel_Deer_Mount.esp

LinchalNecromancerHome - Free.esp

AkatoshSkyBase.esp

Abecean Pirates.esp

Excalibur.esp

MorrOblivionHGECFemaleClothesBelts.esp

Coolsims Hair for Rens.esp

1em_ViljaCool72.esp

CompanionTracker.esp

NazgulMorgulBlade.esp

Tiefling Races.esp

Bashed Patch, 0.esp

[MShoap13]

Is it related to In-Game time? As in, does your save file crash at 7:00 pm Wednesday the xxth of weird month. If so, it's most likely a mod that alters time or has a script running that uses game time as a trigger.

 

Or, is it related to an area? As in, it always crashes at the stables outside of Anvil. If so, it's most likely a mod that alters the area where the crash occurs in some way.

 

Or, is it just completely random? If so, Oblivion is known to be rather buggy and crashes quite a bit. Fast Exit 2, and WEOCPS, along with using Game Booster to shutdown all unnecessary background processes before starting Oblivion goes a long way towards keeping Oblivion running for long periods of time.

 

Also, in general you should avoid using autosaves as your primary method of saving your progress. Make two or three hard saves of your character and rotate them when and where possible. Additionally, any time you load a save it's generally better to exit out to the main menu and load it from there as Oblivion doesn't really even try to purge the memory of information regarding the save file you're currently running when you load another save from in-game. This has the potential to cause all kinds of weirdness. And even worse, that weirdness could get saved into your character file.

[AlfredTetzlaff]

Wow, 254 active mods, pushing the limit :) And no, i did not count them myself. Excel is my friend ;)

There could be another reason for your trouble. If I'm not mistaken there is another limit regarding the combined number of esp, esm and bsa files (regardless if activated or not) in your Data directory, around 300+ I believe. Maybe this one is bugging you.

[dragonrebirth]

The time is not the same , I have tested it several times, it will be different for each file, I've tried waiting until the hour before it crashes on several of my files and it appears to happen even I I am not waiting. It happens no matter where I go or what I am doing. I will try to deactivate several to see if it is the limit or not. I believe it to be in-game time though. I've tried waiting a long time before leaving the sewers into the worldspace and it doesn't seem to happen if I never leave the sewers. Don't know if that helps or not. Edited October 28, 2011 by dragonrebirth

[Keirgarth]

how large are your save files?

[dragonrebirth]

how large are your save files?

 

They seem to be about 4 mb each.

[Keirgarth]

Doesn't sound like they are overly bloated which could have been an issue had they been larger. You say this happens when you are playing a new game as well as using one of your older saves too, correct? It sounds to me like there could be a little bit of a compatibility issue, or some form of corruption involved here. Do you use Wrye Bash? If so you might play around a little with your load order to see if anything makes a difference.

[MShoap13]

Is the time it crashes at or around, the same for one save file. e.g. if you reload that save file after it crashes does it crash again at the same time?

 

If so, it's definitely a script that either alters in-game time, or triggers an event based on in-game time. And since the crash varies per save file I would think it's something that delays itself so many in-game hours after you've activated something. That something could be as mundane as starting a game, or as complex as choosing a certain option during a mod-added dialogue.

[dragonrebirth]

Is the time it crashes at or around, the same for one save file. e.g. if you reload that save file after it crashes does it crash again at the same time?

 

If so, it's definitely a script that either alters in-game time, or triggers an event based on in-game time. And since the crash varies per save file I would think it's something that delays itself so many in-game hours after you've activated something. That something could be as mundane as starting a game, or as complex as choosing a certain option during a mod-added dialogue.

 

That would be correct, I've messed around and removed a couple mods, seems to be working now , but I'll be back if it happens again. ;)

[MShoap13]

If you don't mind, which mod or mods do you believe to be the culprit? I've seen someone with this issue once before but it turned out to be an incompatibility between one of Fran's plugins that altered in-game time and another mod that had a time based script. You don't have Fran's installed so it obviously isn't the exact same problem. I'm just curious for knowledge's sake. :biggrin: