Mass Effect 3 [REQUEST] Is it possible to make the gunplay in ME3 feels more like the gunplay in ME2?

[doineight]

I believe that the combat system in ME3 is too power focused, although it has a general improvement in mobility and explosiveness. I feel that the guns play is severely neglected, at least to me. I feel that all the guns in ME3 feel almost the same, just with different firing mode and damage output. In ME3, guns generally do less dmg than power combo, firing too slow, and the fast firing ones feel like pea shooter, or just "primer" for explosion.

 

I remember those moments in Garrus recruitment mission in ME2, when you can unload the entire clip of the Shuriken on a fully armored krogan with just a couple of taps, no trigger delay, very fast fire rate and nice impacting effect. I also remember the neat high tech display of the ammo type that your weapons have, and your enemy health depleted as torrent of charged metal particles tearing your enemy apart, after you strip them of barrier and armor of course.

 

So my request is that can someone please make the gunplay in ME3 feels more like the gunplay in ME2?

Like, readjusting the fire rate, damage, magazine size, and maybe the recoil of some ME2 weapons, like the predator, that reappeared ME3?

Can you please add the equipped ammo display like the one in ME2 to ME3 guns?

Is there already a mod that give all enemy at least a layer of protection? I recall that even the grunts in ME2 have armor and barrier to protect them from power spamming.

[HeartlessWanderer]

I recall that even the grunts in ME2 have armor and barrier to protect them from power spamming.

 

Yeah, and the result of that was that Insanity mode was a pain in the bum to play because everything had shield/barrier on top of armor on top of health. Everything. So powers became relatively useless for two-thirds of every encounter in a mode where staying out of cover for naught-point-zero-two of a femtosecond was typically a death sentence.

 

Once you've upgraded individual guns in ME3, they can get just as generally powerful as they got in ME2, they just start out with less kick. Doesn't stop ME3 from having the same issue ME2 did where certain DLC weapons make the early stages of the game hilariously easy (that stupidly accurate N7 shotgun comes to mind--I've actually been killing Cerberus shield troops by shooting them through the "mail slot" with that thing). The other balance concern here is that the only thing limiting your weapon choice is your class and its weight capacity concerns. You're free to equip a class with weapons it previously had no business using, meaning your Vanguard can also be a pro sniper and so forth.

 

The key to making the most of your weapons in this game is figuring out relatively early which ones you're going to be using money on and upgrading those ASAP. More of a problem in a non-DLC'd and non-modded game, really, since in a vanilla game without DLC weapons and without Expanded Galaxy's import weapons chest, you have to acquire the game's better weapons as you progress and yeah, the early-game weapons are fairly pitiful. BioWare tried to hit a middle ground between ME1's inventory system and ME2's less-cumbersome but relatively brainless-feeling upgrades system, and to an extend it works, but you do have to think about how you use your guns a lot more than even the first game, where you pretty much just had to dump credits into the latest and greatest and only mods themselves really made you think.

 

I suppose it wouldn't be too hard to mod general gun damage output to be a little higher, but balancing that properly with everything else in the game might be more of an overhaul job. Thoughts?

[doineight]

"Yeah, and the result of that was that Insanity mode was a pain in the bum to play because everything had shield/barrier on top of armor on top of health."

 

Well, I do agree about the part that in ME2 Insanity difficulty, with each enemy having at least a layer of protection, is kinda pain in the ass, and I do remember playing ME2 when it first came out in 2009, and it is just as bad as you said. But when I played ME2 on Insanity in 2013, maybe because Bioware had patched the game since, grunts' armor and shield can be depleted rather quickly, even in early game with Jacob's share incen + shuriken + trigger tapping = no more protection.

 

"Once you've upgraded individual guns in ME3, they can get just as generally powerful as they got in ME2, they just start out with less kick."

 

Yeah, the dmg, weight and magazine size will get better, but not the fire rate of the weapon. Maybe because I just didn't word my idea right, but my problem with the guns in ME3 lies not in the dmg, weight department but the fire rate of the weapon such as the avenger. The ME2 avenger fire as fast as the geth spitfire with firing sound much better than the ME3 version. So the guns in ME2 generally have better feel to them than those in ME3.

 

"The key to making the most of your weapons in this game is figuring out relatively early which ones you're going to be using money on and upgrading those ASAP."

 

This I did. In vanilla ME3, only the DLC gun harrier feels the best, but the problem is that its ammo reserve is too pitiful. So I spent 75% of the game building my shep to get better ammo reserve for the harrier.

 

 

Even in vanilla Insanity ME3, powers are too OP. Vanguard can just spam charge and nova, Soldier can just spam incen concus shot. SO most of my encounters do not last more than 30 seconds. So I don't even bother firing my weapon.

 

So the actual problem is that the guns are not as OP as the powers, and some of the guns fire way too slow than they should.

Edited June 12, 2016 by doineight