Stutter only on new saves!?

TatsukageX · June 15, 2016

Hello,

I'd like to call upon your experience with this issue that is making the game unplayable for me.

so, I have recently decided to start a new character with a list of mods that I liked (I know I have a lot of mods, no need for a roast!) and I have been noticing a lot of stuttering right after leaving Helgen, the strange thing is that I haven't noticed this issue when still in Helgen either indoors or outdoors and that when I load up my previous character save I do not notice it what so ever!

My previous save had a lot more mods installed and I am surprised that it still works because I removed many of them without cleaning my save or using MC to disable them manually first, my new save has less mods (still probably too much) but it's making me crazy with all this stuttering, it happens while standing still, while moving and oh boy while fighting, by the time the stuttering occurs and ends my character had already attached my companion rather than my enemy...you know aiming difficulties.

after installing FPS counter I found that my FPS is constantly between 60 and 70 FPS...it's rare that it goes below that and I also tried going indoors as well as outdoors, the stuttering happens regardless of my environment.

PS: I tried to make an even newer save files (2 new files in total) both are displaying the same issue.

EDIT: after observation, I noticed it happens every second like a clock going tick tock.

Below are my device info:

Model: ASUS ROG G752

RAM: 32GB DDR4

GPU: GTX 980M

CPU: Intel Core i7 6700HQ 2.6GHz

My mods:

Skyrim.esm

Update.esm

Dawnguard.esm

HearthFires.esm

Dragonborn.esm

Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp

Skyrim Project Optimization.esm

Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm

Campfire.esm

ClimatesOfTamriel.esm

notice board.esp

Night Eye Overhaul.esm

HighResTexturePack01.esp

HighResTexturePack02.esp

HighResTexturePack03.esp

Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp

SkyUI.esp

SkyTweak.esp

RelightingSkyrim_Legendary.esp

DBERRSanctuary.esp

Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp

3DNPC.esp

Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp

Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp

ABT - Faster Arrows Improved +25%.esp

ABT - Faster Bolts Improved +25%.esp

ABT - Increased Bolts Damage (BS and CCO) +50%.esp

AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp

Proudspire.esp

DarkbroSanctuary.esp

Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp

Rebirth Monster.esp

Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp

RavenRockExpanded.esp

Thieves Guild Redone.esp

Breezehome_Fully_Upgradable.esp

SoS - The Wilds.esp

SoS - Civilization.esp

Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp

SoS - The Dungeons.esp

Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp

Weapons & Armor_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.esp

Immersive Weapons.esp

WeaponsArmorFixes_ImmersiveWeapons_Patch.esp

ABT - Increased Progressive Damage (BS and CCO) +50%.esp

ABT - Loot Arrows +25%.esp

ABT - Merchants Arrows +75%.esp

ABT - Recover +25% Arrows and Bolts.esp

Skyrim Unlimited Rings And Amulets.esp

Night Eye Overhaul.esp

LFox Alchemists Have Potions and Poisons.esp

Populated Lands Roads Paths Legendary.esp

Point The Way.esp

RealisticWaterTwo.esp

TactlessToxins.esp

TownsAndCitiesEnhanced.esp

Inconsequential NPCs.esp

RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp

Cloaks.esp

Run For Your Lives.esp

fallentreebridges.esp

Immersive Patrols II.esp

Improved Poisons.esp

DynamicPotions.esp

discreetpoisonedperk.esp

DawnguardArsenal.esp

AlchemyOrganization.esp

Bullseye.esp

Auto Unequip Ammo.esp

Better Stealth AI for Followers.esp

LFox Blacksmiths Have Metals.esp

Blacksmiths Sell Firewood.esp

DftT.esp

DftT-NGP-WTLS.esp

DftT-NoGreenPact.esp

DftT-WTLS.esp

BooksBooksBooks.esp

ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp

ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp

College of Winterhold Entry Requirements (Normal).esp

donorcollegejoin.esp

CriticalDaggers.esp

DeadlyDragons.esp

Crossbows_Basic_Collection_EN_LL.esp

dbmisc.esp

DualFlurryRanks.esp

Dual Wield Parrying_SKSE.esp

Dual Sheath Redux.esp

dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp

Farmers Sell Produce - Skyrim.esp

Fast Sit and Relax.esp

FISS.esp

FNIS.esp

onehandeddagger.esp

HearthfireMultiKid.esp

HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp

HelmetToggle2.02b.esp

Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp

WhiterunInEnhanced.esp

RiverwoodEnhancedPlugin.esp

TimingIsEverything.esp

Sicarius' Refuge - DLC.esp

TAVERiften.esp

Save the Dark Brotherhood!.esp

Hunterborn.esp

inhumansoldiers.esp

Unique Uniques.esp

Insanity's Dragonbane.esp

LFox Alchemists Have Ingredients Heavy.esp

Mercy of Sithis.esp

RaggedFlagonDoor.esp

No Magic Ninja Dodge - No DLC.esp

PocketMoney.esp

RaceMenu.esp

RaceMenuPlugin.esp

dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp

ThievesGuide.esp

SFO - Dragonborn.esp

Rebirth Monster - SIC Patch.esp

Duelist - One Handed Perk.esp

archeryperks 3-6.esp

BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp

TGBC.esp

Thieves Guild Requirements.esp

TAVESolitude.esp

TAVEWindhelm.esp

Varied_Vigilants.esp

HeartBreaker.esp

VioLens.esp

WetandCold.esp

When Vampires Attack.esp

sanctuarycleanup.esp

redoranuardarmor.esp

dD - Easy Lift Bodies and Objects.esp

BetterWhitePhialEffects.esp

5SecondShadowWarrior.esp

HoldBorderBanners.esp

Sneak Tools.esp

Shadowmarks.esp

Gildergreen Regrown.esp

TrustingBeggar.esp

My Home Is Your Home.esp

ESO Breton Knight by NewrMind43.esp

Ish's Souls to Perks.esp

DBJarrinRoot.esp

ESFCompanions.esp

dovahkiinrelax.esp

Proper Aiming.esp

totems enabled.esp

Bounty Gold.esp

Celtic_Music_In_Skyrim_v2.1.esp

Hunterborn Campfire Patch.esp

CampfireKExt.esp

FaelCampingStuff.esp

Convenient Horses.esp

IndividualizedShoutCooldowns.esp

Improved Dragon Shouts.esp

Improved Dragon Shouts - Dawnguard.esp

Improved Dragon Shouts - Dragonborn.esp

Grimy Utilities Interface.esp

UIExtensions.esp

Poison Skills Enhanced - high.esp

NoAutoSkillBooks(Better).esp

cdUI.esp

UnlockUniqueEnchantments.esp

More Craftables.esp

Convertible Azura's Star.esp

Craftable Artifacts.esp

Dangerous Wolves.esp

Invisibility Eyes Fix.esp

Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp

Hail Dark Brotherhood - Ignorant Dawnstar Folks.esp

Hail Dark Brotherhood - Dawnstar Sanctuary less moanings.esp

AH Hotkeys.esp

StealthImmFixv1.esp

ThiefsFocus.esp

Masters of Death.esp

Masters of Death - Sicarius Armor (Standalone).esp

ScoutArmor.esp

DreamBurrowsRegalHuntsmanArmor.esp

DreamBurrowsRegalAssassin.esp

More Believable Carrying Weight.esp

tox Alchemy Unlock Effects.esp

Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp

Total: 203

(Don't know if there is a better way of getting a list from NMM, google search results mostly tell me to use other mod managers)

I personally don't think it's a mod problem and would like your help....I miss skyrim :sad:

Thanks.

Edited June 16, 2016 by TatsukageX

Darkstyler35 · June 15, 2016

Can you use spoiler tag for your list please ?

About your problem, try a selective loading and begin with just the minimal requirements for the game to work. Then increase slowly the loading mods to find which one (s) is the culprit.

Hope this helps.

TatsukageX · June 16, 2016

Can you use spoiler tag for your list please ?

About your problem, try a selective loading and begin with just the minimal requirements for the game to work. Then increase slowly the loading mods to find which one (s) is the culprit.

Hope this helps.

Thanks for the tip, spoiler tags added.

as for the issue at hand, I have disabled all mods....my old save stopped working but on my current save the issue persists....very strange.

any thoughts?

Darkstyler35 · June 16, 2016

Your save is broken - there are no clean save in Skyrim but using save script cleaner if you have uninstalled mods at mid game can help removing orphan scripts. Not sure it will repair it but hey.

Do some of your save have a big size ? Scripts can become mad and spam papyrus.0.log and savegame. So if you have a 160 Mo save, delete it and load a previous save. Also if once in game it appears saving seems lagging, that's not good, take a look at the size of your saves...

Reynard131 · June 16, 2016

Hello,

I'd like to call upon your experience with this issue that is making the game unplayable for me.

so, I have recently decided to start a new character with a list of mods that I liked (I know I have a lot of mods, no need for a roast!) and I have been noticing a lot of stuttering right after leaving Helgen, the strange thing is that I haven't noticed this issue when still in Helgen either indoors or outdoors and that when I load up my previous character save I do not notice it what so ever!

My previous save had a lot more mods installed and I am surprised that it still works because I removed many of them without cleaning my save or using MC to disable them manually first, my new save has less mods (still probably too much) but it's making me crazy with all this stuttering, it happens while standing still, while moving and oh boy while fighting, by the time the stuttering occurs and ends my character had already attached my companion rather than my enemy...you know aiming difficulties.

after installing FPS counter I found that my FPS is constantly between 60 and 70 FPS...it's rare that it goes below that and I also tried going indoors as well as outdoors, the stuttering happens regardless of my environment.

PS: I tried to make an even newer save files (2 new files in total) both are displaying the same issue.

EDIT: after observation, I noticed it happens every second like a clock going tick tock.

Below are my device info:

Model: ASUS ROG G752
RAM: 32GB DDR4
GPU: GTX 980M
CPU: Intel Core i7 6700HQ 2.6GHz

My mods:

Skyrim.esm
Update.esm
Dawnguard.esm
HearthFires.esm
Dragonborn.esm
Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
Skyrim Project Optimization.esm
Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm
Campfire.esm
ClimatesOfTamriel.esm
notice board.esp
Night Eye Overhaul.esm
HighResTexturePack01.esp
HighResTexturePack02.esp
HighResTexturePack03.esp
Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp
SkyUI.esp
SkyTweak.esp
RelightingSkyrim_Legendary.esp
DBERRSanctuary.esp
Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp
3DNPC.esp
Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp
Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp
ABT - Faster Arrows Improved +25%.esp
ABT - Faster Bolts Improved +25%.esp
ABT - Increased Bolts Damage (BS and CCO) +50%.esp
AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp
Proudspire.esp
DarkbroSanctuary.esp
Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp
Rebirth Monster.esp
Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp
RavenRockExpanded.esp
Thieves Guild Redone.esp
Breezehome_Fully_Upgradable.esp
SoS - The Wilds.esp
SoS - Civilization.esp
Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp
SoS - The Dungeons.esp
Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
Weapons & Armor_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.esp
Immersive Weapons.esp
WeaponsArmorFixes_ImmersiveWeapons_Patch.esp
ABT - Increased Progressive Damage (BS and CCO) +50%.esp
ABT - Loot Arrows +25%.esp
ABT - Merchants Arrows +75%.esp
ABT - Recover +25% Arrows and Bolts.esp
Skyrim Unlimited Rings And Amulets.esp
Night Eye Overhaul.esp
LFox Alchemists Have Potions and Poisons.esp
Populated Lands Roads Paths Legendary.esp
Point The Way.esp
RealisticWaterTwo.esp
TactlessToxins.esp
TownsAndCitiesEnhanced.esp
Inconsequential NPCs.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp
Cloaks.esp
Run For Your Lives.esp
fallentreebridges.esp
Immersive Patrols II.esp
Improved Poisons.esp
DynamicPotions.esp
discreetpoisonedperk.esp
DawnguardArsenal.esp
AlchemyOrganization.esp
Bullseye.esp
Auto Unequip Ammo.esp
Better Stealth AI for Followers.esp
LFox Blacksmiths Have Metals.esp
Blacksmiths Sell Firewood.esp
DftT.esp
DftT-NGP-WTLS.esp
DftT-NoGreenPact.esp
DftT-WTLS.esp
BooksBooksBooks.esp
ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp
ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp
College of Winterhold Entry Requirements (Normal).esp
donorcollegejoin.esp
CriticalDaggers.esp
DeadlyDragons.esp
Crossbows_Basic_Collection_EN_LL.esp
dbmisc.esp
DualFlurryRanks.esp
Dual Wield Parrying_SKSE.esp
Dual Sheath Redux.esp
dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
Farmers Sell Produce - Skyrim.esp
Fast Sit and Relax.esp
FISS.esp
FNIS.esp
onehandeddagger.esp
HearthfireMultiKid.esp
HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp
HelmetToggle2.02b.esp
Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp
WhiterunInEnhanced.esp
RiverwoodEnhancedPlugin.esp
TimingIsEverything.esp
Sicarius' Refuge - DLC.esp
TAVERiften.esp
Save the Dark Brotherhood!.esp
Hunterborn.esp
inhumansoldiers.esp
Unique Uniques.esp
Insanity's Dragonbane.esp
LFox Alchemists Have Ingredients Heavy.esp
Mercy of Sithis.esp
RaggedFlagonDoor.esp
No Magic Ninja Dodge - No DLC.esp
PocketMoney.esp
RaceMenu.esp
RaceMenuPlugin.esp
dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
ThievesGuide.esp
SFO - Dragonborn.esp
Rebirth Monster - SIC Patch.esp
Duelist - One Handed Perk.esp
archeryperks 3-6.esp
BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp
TGBC.esp
Thieves Guild Requirements.esp
TAVESolitude.esp
TAVEWindhelm.esp
Varied_Vigilants.esp
HeartBreaker.esp
VioLens.esp
WetandCold.esp
When Vampires Attack.esp
sanctuarycleanup.esp
redoranuardarmor.esp
dD - Easy Lift Bodies and Objects.esp
BetterWhitePhialEffects.esp
5SecondShadowWarrior.esp
HoldBorderBanners.esp
Sneak Tools.esp
Shadowmarks.esp
Gildergreen Regrown.esp
TrustingBeggar.esp
My Home Is Your Home.esp
ESO Breton Knight by NewrMind43.esp
Ish's Souls to Perks.esp
DBJarrinRoot.esp
ESFCompanions.esp
dovahkiinrelax.esp
Proper Aiming.esp
totems enabled.esp
Bounty Gold.esp
Celtic_Music_In_Skyrim_v2.1.esp
Hunterborn Campfire Patch.esp
CampfireKExt.esp
FaelCampingStuff.esp
Convenient Horses.esp
IndividualizedShoutCooldowns.esp
Improved Dragon Shouts.esp
Improved Dragon Shouts - Dawnguard.esp
Improved Dragon Shouts - Dragonborn.esp
Grimy Utilities Interface.esp
UIExtensions.esp
Poison Skills Enhanced - high.esp
NoAutoSkillBooks(Better).esp
cdUI.esp
UnlockUniqueEnchantments.esp
More Craftables.esp
Convertible Azura's Star.esp
Craftable Artifacts.esp
Dangerous Wolves.esp
Invisibility Eyes Fix.esp
Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
Hail Dark Brotherhood - Ignorant Dawnstar Folks.esp
Hail Dark Brotherhood - Dawnstar Sanctuary less moanings.esp
AH Hotkeys.esp
StealthImmFixv1.esp
ThiefsFocus.esp
Masters of Death.esp
Masters of Death - Sicarius Armor (Standalone).esp
ScoutArmor.esp
DreamBurrowsRegalHuntsmanArmor.esp
DreamBurrowsRegalAssassin.esp
More Believable Carrying Weight.esp
tox Alchemy Unlock Effects.esp
Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp

Total: 203
(Don't know if there is a better way of getting a list from NMM, google search results mostly tell me to use other mod managers)

I personally don't think it's a mod problem and would like your help....I miss skyrim :sad:

Thanks.

This clearly is a memory allocation and game set up issue because of the number of plug-ins you've had a certain point the first thing you get is stutter and this is because you probably don't have the ENB boost or some of the other memory allocation tweaks.

Go to step wiki and go through your .ini files as well as installing ENB boost the way that they instruct you Install safety load as well as making sure that Shesons patch is in place for your SKSE

You need to get rid of stuff that you really don't need and put in the proper core components by getting the memory allocation sorted out you should be able to go to the game plug-in list.

Part of the issue that are also might be due to how your operating system is set up

TatsukageX · June 16, 2016

Your save is broken - there are no clean save in Skyrim but using save script cleaner if you have uninstalled mods at mid game can help removing orphan scripts. Not sure it will repair it but hey.

Do some of your save have a big size ? Scripts can become mad and spam papyrus.0.log and savegame. So if you have a 160 Mo save, delete it and load a previous save. Also if once in game it appears saving seems lagging, that's not good, take a look at the size of your saves...

My old save is 16 MB and my new save is 13MB.

I will try the cleaner and let you know.

This clearly is a memory allocation and game set up issue because of the number of plug-ins you've had a certain point the first thing you get is stutter and this is because you probably don't have the ENB boost or some of the other memory allocation tweaks.

Go to step wiki and go through your .ini files as well as installing ENB boost the way that they instruct you Install safety load as well as making sure that Shesons patch is in place for your SKSE

You need to get rid of stuff that you really don't need and put in the proper core components by getting the memory allocation sorted out you should be able to go to the game plug-in list.
Part of the issue that are also might be due to how your operating system is set up

I do not use ENB, you are right!

although, my old save is the save that is supposed to be buggy because it had more mods that were removed mid-game while the new save was only made AFTER I removed all the unneeded mods, I am not sure if this still affects my new save? either way the old save is working flawlessly.

I am going to read that guide and apply it and get back to you.

Edited June 16, 2016 by TatsukageX

Darkstyler35 · June 16, 2016

Read this topic, interesting particularly the memory and loading issue section.

TatsukageX · June 17, 2016

Read this topic, interesting particularly the memory and loading issue section.

that's interesting, about the part from Helgen to Riverwood but I don't think that was the issue as it wasn't resolved.

Luckily though I worked around it; in my attempts to start new games I noticed that a few of them started with the wagon and camera rambling as if it were inside a tornado and after research I found two possible solutions neither of which worked for me XD (Either run FNIS or reduce screen refresh rate back to 60GHz)

but since my old save worked and in that save I was already outside Helgen it made me think the problem took place in Helgen, so I started a new game with all mods disabled, left Helgen and then enabled all my mods....worked like a charm!

Darkstyler35 · June 17, 2016

This is a good workaround, unless you have mods that need the Helgen sequence to correctly initialise. (Not sure about that but hey...caution...) I have not yet had this bug (one less ^^) but I use LAL anyway, as it offers new varied beginnings.

Good luck with your game :wink:

TatsukageX · June 20, 2016

Hey,

This is a good workaround, unless you have mods that need the Helgen sequence to correctly initialise. (Not sure about that but hey...caution...) I have not yet had this bug (one less ^^) but I use LAL anyway, as it offers new varied beginnings.

Good luck with your game :wink:

Hey, Thanks for your time.

you enjoy your game too!

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