A BUG!? (i can't heal myself with consumables)

[topeira]

hi guys.

 

this is my load order and im playing on survival:

 

 

GameMode=Fallout4

Fallout4.esm=1

DLCRobot.esm=1

DLCworkshop01.esm=1

Arbitration - Resources.esm=1

DLCCoast.esm=1

ArmorKeywords.esm=1

Realistic Death Physics.esp=1

SSC.esp=1

ALD Travel Backpack.esp=1

WO-ScarH.esp=1

WO-AK47.esp=1

WO-G3.esp=1

WO-G20.esp=1

WO-L96.esp=1

WO-M82.esp=1

WO-USAS.esp=1

Wasteland Ordnance Merged.esp=1

ColonolNutty - Clothing Crafting.esp=1

Weapons and Armors Prefix.esp=1

BetterItemSorting.esp=1

ModGoggles.esp=1

unleveleditems.esp=1

Remove Interior Fog.esp=1

Layerable Apparel.esp=1

LessMolotovSpam.esp=1

BigBen.esp=1

Motion Blur.esp=1

EnhancedGrass_Low.esp=1

BetterSynthRelayGrenade.esp=1

No Combat Boundaries.esp=1

Journey_Easy.esp=1

AnS Wearable Backpacks and Pouches.esp=1

AnS Wearable Backpacks and Pouches - Ballistic Weave.esp=1

AnS Wearable Backpacks and Pouches - No Crafting Perks.esp=1

DisableAutoAimF4.esp=1

Companion Infinite Ammo.esp=1

Immersive Dismemberment Rate (10).esp=1

Better Explosives - Lite.esp=1

Better Explosives - Enhanced Grenades.esp=1

Better Explosives - Perks redone.esp=1

Better Explosives - Grenade Frequency 45.esp=1

MoreNoticeableHitEffect_REDMOREhardcore.esp=1

BetterLowHealth_35.esp=1

CUTE.esp=1

Arbitration - Button Lowered Weapons - Auto Raise from Cover.esp=1

CraftableAmmo.esp=1

NPCsUseExplosives.esp=1

SOS_SleepOrSave.esp=1

CraftableAmmo_plus.esp=1

Crafting Workbench.esp=1

Crafting Workbench ALD Backpack Patch.esp=1

Crafting Workbenches - Ammo.esp=1

Crafting Workbenches - Automatron DLC.esp=1

Crafting Workbenches - Junk Items.esp=1

Crafting Workbenches - Pre War and Manufactured.esp=1

armor_NameModTiers_EN.esp=1

R91M.esp=1

M9.esp=1

AK2047.esp=1

FO4Hotkeys.esp=1

Weapons of Fate.esp=1

ModularKalash.esp=1

LK05.esp=1

JaguarLMG.esp=1

UnleveledPerks.esp=1

No Enemies on Compass.esp=1

Modern Firearms.esp=1

Arbitration - Better Combat AI.esp=1

Arbitration - Stealth Overhaul.esp=1

Arbitration - Compass Radar Reduction.esp=1

Survivalist GoBag - 75lbs.esp=1

SCAR-LK.esp=1

WM Chinese Assault Rifle - Standalone.esp=1

BTInteriors_Project.esp=1

Better Locational Damage.esp=1

Better Locational Damage - DLC_Automatron.esp=1

Better Perks.esp=1

Better Locational Damage - DLC_WWorkshop.esp=1

Better Locational Damage - DLC_Far_Harbor.esp=1

1.1xEnemyDamage.esp=1

1.25xPlayerDamage.esp=1

3dscopes-replacer.esp=1

3dscopes-replacer-addtospawn.esp=1

3dscopes-framework.esp=1

DarkerNights.esp=1

DarkerNightsDetection.esp=1

BetterNightVision.esp=1

WOTC.esp=1

DeployableTurretsPack.esp=1

DTP - AWKCR Compatibility.esp=1

Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch.esp=1

AWKCRPatch-UFO4P.esp=1

Reverb and Ambiance Overhaul.esp=1

LongRangeBulletHoles.esp=1

m1941.esp=1

adars merged list May30.esp=1

TracerMod.esp=1

Armorsmith Extended.esp=1

Armorsmith Far Harbor.esp=1

Armorsmith Automatron.esp=1

Pip-Boy Flashlight.esp=1

Grasslands - Healthy.esp=1

Grasslands - Healthy - Performance.esp=1

SurvivalSaving_Holotapes.esp=1

SurvivalOptions.esp=1

 

 

 

 

i started playing on survival (2nd playthrough) and after a few hours i noticed that nothing heals me. stimpaks and food all show 0HP and i think i should be seeing all sort of hunger and thirst icons on the buttom, which i dont, and i think i should be able to see some hunger and thirst and tiredness stats in my pipboy under "stats" or something, which i dont.

 

am i having a bug? am i missing something? i can not heal myself in any way other than sleeping in a bed. wtf?

if i return to "very hard" mode than everything is back to normal and i can heal. if i switch to SURVIVAL again (using a mod that allows that) than i go back to the "no healing" problem.

Edited June 17, 2016 by topeira

[YeOldeSensenmann]

First of all, The Unofficial Fallout 4 patch loads way to late, it should come right after your last .esm so I suggest you use LOOT to optimize your loadorder.

 

Next, Arbitration hasn't been updated in months, so that might be causing some issues. Disable that and try again.

[topeira]

thanks for trying to help, mate.
The advices make some sense but even if i disable my ENTIRE load order and run the game with no plugins i still get this issue.

i switch to "very hard" and can heal" switch back to "survival" and can't.

[YeOldeSensenmann]

You can't switch back to survival without a mod so if your loadorder is empty that shouldn't even work.

 

You could run the whole thing through FO4edit and create a merged patch, although that's probably only a good idea if you know how FO4edit works in case the patch needs some adjustments.

[topeira]

You can't switch back to survival without a mod so if your loadorder is empty that shouldn't even work.

 

You could run the whole thing through FO4edit and create a merged patch, although that's probably only a good idea if you know how FO4edit works in case the patch needs some adjustments.

i cant switch back and forth without a mod either, but i only looked for such a mod because i had this bug so i had this bug first, then looked for a mod that allows me to toggle survival on\off and the tried this. i tried without the survival toggle mod and with that mod. i tried older games as well - a save from another play through - if i switched to survival - that bug.

 

i have a feeling that all the consumables are doing 0.001 of their effect. i mean - health reagain is 0 on everything BUT the rad away is -4. -4 instead of -400. and on another save where i had a perk that would make radaway do -600 the bug made the radaway to -6! so my guess is that stimpacks wouldnt heal 30% but 0.3%, and food wouldnt heal 10HP but rather 0.1 or something.

 

and this happens even without any plug ins.

[topeira]

i reinstalled the game and that solved the issue.