Weird underwater blur

[DnKrow7]

Hello !

 

While playing in 3rd person, I've discovered that the underwater blur applied inside the objects models while keeping the geometry sharp, instead of blurring the whole picture. Does anyone know if this is a normal behaviour from Skyrim or if I messed up with my ini modifications? I'm using Mod Organizer and I've tried with and without mods.

 

Specs

 

CPU : Intel® Core2 Duo CPU E8500 @3.16GHz 3.17 GHz
RAM : 6.00 GB
OS : Windows 7 64 bits
Video card : Asus GeForce ENGTX 260 896 MB

 

 

Load Order

 

# This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer.

Skyrim.esm

Update.esm

Dawnguard.esm

HearthFires.esm

Dragonborn.esm

Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp

UnlimitedBookshelves.esp

HighResTexturePack01.esp

HighResTexturePack02.esp

HighResTexturePack03.esp

SkyUI.esp

DragonboneCrossbow.esp

UnreadBooksGlow.esp

SoS - The Wilds.esp

SoS - Civilization.esp

SoS - The Dungeons.esp

Markarth_plus.esp

TAVERiften.esp

tavefalkreath.esp

Run For Your Lives.esp

JaxonzEnhGrab.esp

Better Embers.esp

Auto Unequip Ammo.esp

garamond.esp

moon_deathstarcomplete_secunda.esp

treehouse.esp

portal2mod.esp

Distant DetailHF.esp

SDO Full-LOD - Giant Campfires.esp

SDO Full-LOD - The Morthal Swamp Complete.esp

SDO Full-LOD - Waterfall Effects.esp

SDO Full-LOD - Whiterun Trundra Creeks.esp

ImmersiveSpells.esp

EnhancedLightsandFX.esp

ELFX - Exteriors.esp

ELFXEnhancer.esp

Purity.esp

SkyFalls + SkyMills + DG + DB.esp

SkyFalls Dragonborn Small waterfalls.esp

 

 

Thank you !

Edited June 19, 2016 by DnKrow7

[Darkstyler35]

• Deactivate ALL your mods, (not uninstall huh ?) and test in game. If it worked, increase by 50 % your mods to see if it's above or below to find the problem.
• Backup your skyrim.ini and skyrimprefs.ini and delete them, then load the launcher to autodetect your graphics.
• Do you use any ENB ? Try disabling it or differents settings, refer to the downloaded mod page for details.
• See these mods : green water fix / The ruffled feather

 

Hope this helps

[DnKrow7]

I simply can't understand what is going on. I'm using Mod Organizer so my Data folder is clean of absolutely everything (I've deleted the Skyrim - Invalidation.bsa generated by MO). I've deleted the two .ini files and launched Skyrim through steam and the launcher and I've got the same problem, although a bit less pronounced (when testing I found that ELFXEnhancer.esp was worsening the problem apparently). If I launch the game without updates.esm, dawnguard.esm, hearthfires.esm and dragonborn.esm, I don't have this problem. As soon as I add updates.esm in the data folder, this problem appears. I don't know. :sad: I don't really want to reinstall the game from scratch to see if it changes anything. ><

Anyway, thanks for your help!

[Darkstyler35]

Try Verify gamecache.

[DnKrow7]

I have solved my problem! Thanks to you who have provided me the link to the green water fix, I was able to know where to search to solve it. It appears that Bethesda added the Image Space 'UnderwaterImageSpace' in updates.esm, with Depth of Field parameters. That explains why I did not have this blur when launching skyrim without it. I asked my brother (who has never used any mod whatsoever) to see on his game and he had indeed this blur on his character when viewed from far behind in 3rd person. If you check in your game you should also see this blur.
Then, I opened ELFXEnhanced.esp in TES5Edit and I've seen that indeed these parameters had been tweaked, worsening the blur.

 

Here is a printscreen of TES5Edit where you can see the parameters.

And some screenshots with the parameters I changed.

 

http://i.imgur.com/q8sLKwp.jpg

(Range 100.000; Sky/Blur Radius Radius 5, the parameters set in ELFXEnhanced.esp)

 

http://i.imgur.com/HezYTMl.jpg

(Range 100.000; Sky/Blur Radius Radius 2), we can see that a lower value diminish the effect.

 

http://i.imgur.com/IbfYyj7.jpg

(Range 500.000; Sky/Blur Radius Radius 2, the parameters set in updates.esm)

 

http://i.imgur.com/p0RVDWJ.jpg

(Range 500.000; Sky/Blur Radius Radius 5) Not much of a change I think.

 

http://i.imgur.com/qhQImMB.jpg

(Range 1000.000; Sky/Blur Radius Radius 2) That's more acceptable!

 

http://i.imgur.com/Ah5qR31.jpg

Range 1000.000; Sky/Blur Radius Radius 1) The blur is less pronounced but still visible in the distance. :smile:

 

I've finally decided to go with parameters set as Strength : 0.5 (instead of 1), Range 2000.0000 and Sky/Blur Radius Radius 2 and I like it this way. :D

 

Thank you for your help and I hope my long head scratching will help someone if needed. ^^

[Darkstyler35]

Good work ;)

[RiiNagaja]

Thank you DnKrow7, Google searches towards this problem nearly exclusively lead to the greenwaterfix, but with your post I have found the solution to this more rare problem. Worked great! :smile:

[ndpendantpbj]

OP, you are a god.

[IAmDarkPhoenix]

This really helped me out. Thanks OP

[edgarbh01]

After several tests, I found out that the culprit is ELFX Enhancer. Skyrim has a degree of depth of field underwater which blurs stuff based on proximity, then there is yet another blur from what i've seen, which comes from the Enhancer option from ELFX (Enhanced Lights and FX) mod, making your character look terrible underwater, as well as many other textures.

Disable ELFX Enhancer option and it should run normally again.

 

 

P.S: Most probably necroposting but just since this is one of the first results google has for this problem, might as well make it known...

Edited September 15, 2019 by edgarbh01