Settlers contorted faces bug

[bobofudd]

Seems like it is scrap everything causing it?

There must be several things conflicting with Far Harbor then because I'm not running Scrap Everything and still have a few distorted faces and multiple settlers. I'm guessing it's not Better Settlers because I could update that and everyone in the Commonwealth looks fine. My problems seem to happen in Far Harbor with settler faces that I think are from The New Settlers.

[Disgruntled82]

 

Seems like it is scrap everything causing it?

There must be several things conflicting with Far Harbor then because I'm not running Scrap Everything and still have a few distorted faces and multiple settlers. I'm guessing it's not Better Settlers because I could update that and everyone in the Commonwealth looks fine. My problems seem to happen in Far Harbor with settler faces that I think are from The New Settlers.

 

 

Hmm well if you find any news about it I'd be interested to hear more about this problem :)

[AlacrityFitzhugh]

Well, it's not The New Settlers or Better Settlers, since I've never used either of those mods and I'm seeing the problem problem faces.

 

Here's my Load Order:

Fallout4.esm

DLCRobot.esm
DLCworkshop01.esm
DLCCoast.esm
DLCworkshop02.esm
Snap'n Build.esm
ArmorKeywords.esm
SettlementKeywords.esm
Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch.esp
AWKCRPatch-UFO4P.esp
ValdacilsItemSorting-00-ValsPicks-DLCVersion.esp
Wasteland Sniper by Hothtrooper44.esp
Dogmeat's Backpack.esp
EferasShoulderBag.esp
AnV Camo Backpacks.esp
FieldScribeBackpack.esp
HubrisShoulderBags[Chemistry].esp
Combat_Helmet_Illumination 1.2.esp
LegendaryModification.esp
Craftable Armor Size - Fix Material Requirements.esp
Craftable Armor Size.esp
Crafting Workbenches - Removed Crafting Experience.esp
Crafting Workbench.esp
Crafting Workbenches - Ammo.esp
Crafting Workbenches - Ammo Special.esp
Crafting Workbenches - Automatron DLC.esp
Crafting Workbenches - Faction and Quest Requirements.esp
Crafting Workbenches - Junk Items.esp
Crafting Workbenches - Power Armor.esp
Crafting Workbenches - Pre War and Manufactured.esp
Armorsmith Extended.esp
Armorsmith Automatron.esp
Armorsmith Far Harbor.esp
Armorsmith Combat Helmet Illumination 1.2.esp
Armorsmith Pack It Up.esp
Armorsmith Hothtrooper44.esp
Armored General by Hothtrooper44.esp
Build_all_Beds.esp
BetterJunkFences.esp
BalconySupports.esp
CR_OuthouseCollection.esp
Guard Rug - D1.esp
Guard Chair - D3.esp
Guard Stool - D3.esp
DD_I_Ran_Out_Of_Funny_Names.esp
DD_Floor_brace.esp
DD_Columnsandstuff_1_0.esp
DDP_Ramps_mark1.esp
DD_Michael_Faraday_Time_yo.esp
DD_why_am_i_doing_this.esp
Eli_Utility Jumpsuits.esp
QuickEnterFromStand.esp
QuickExitToStand.esp
dD-Realistic Ragdoll Force.esp
PowerFrame_Small.esp
Workshop_Planters.esp
Minuteman_CB.esp
Campsite.esp
Campsite-AWKCR.esp
ExpandedSettlementBuildings.esp
BetterShackBridges.esp
PoweredDoorsVanilla.esp
Craftable BOS Barricade.esp
WoodenPrefabsExtended.esp
WindowBoards.esp
VltCageElevator.esp
Brahmin Watertrough.esp
BrahminFeederFull.esp
LOCPoweredDoors.esp
NX Pro - Farm Core.esp
NX Pro - Farm Core - Valdacil's Item Sorting.esp
DD_1x1_Foundation_Blocks.esp
AtomicRadio.esp
Move that Workbench!.esp
AlternateFurniture.esp
BuildableBurningCampfires.esp
AlternateSettlements.esp
SettlerRenaming.esp
ProtoLining.esp
Buildable_PAFrames.esp
SkjAlert_All_DLC.esp
SignsOfTheTimesCategorized.esp
THBrows.esp
LovingCurie_1.0.3b.esp
KSHairdos.esp
Companion Fall Damage Immunity.esp
EveryonesBestFriend.esp
ProvisionerLocator.esp
WAYN_CompanionTracking.esp
CompanionsGoHome_A.esp
GruffyddsSignsAndPosters.esp
Journal.esp
RaiderOverhaul.esp
Raider Overhaul - AE Patch.esp
RaiderOverhaul-VISPatchDLC.esp
FunctionalDisplays.esp
FunctionalDisplays-AID-VIS.esp
FunctionalDisplays-Collectibles.esp
FunctionalDisplays-MISC-VIS.esp
FunctionalDisplays-Patch-DLC03-VIS.esp
OutfitSwitcher.esp
AzarPonytailHairstyles.esp
LovingPiper.esp
LovingCait.esp
SLR.esp
Northland Diggers.esp
SuperMutantOverhaul.esp
Northland.esp
Better Vendor Stalls.esp
Companion Infinite Ammo and Unbreakable Power Armour.esp
Scrap Everything - Core.esp
Scrap Everything - Automatron.esp
Scrap Everything - Far Harbor.esp
Far Harbor Bridge.esp

 

Edited June 28, 2016 by AlacrityFitzhugh

[AlacrityFitzhugh]

It's definitely Scrap Everything that's doing it. They are working on a fix, but for now you can open the "Scap Everything - Far Harbor.esp" file in FO4Edit and delete the entire "Non Player Character (actor)" section and the problem goes away. Existing settlers look normal, too.

[LeonTubrok]

I tried their latest version of scrap everything for far harbor and its still doing it so i just disabled that part for now. might try your suggestion of editing the file if i find i realy need it for far harbor, but right now im just happy they aint all freeks and can still use scrap everything on the mainland

[evolantra]

Well... I would say there is more to this than scrap everything personally. Scrap everything does start the bug, I have noted that on a clean play then installing scrap everything. But if you use the raider overhaul is causes the bug to affect not only settlers and trappers... but it then causes the raiders and some random encounter npcs to then become glitched. In my experience so far... after the raider overhaul making the glitch worse and removing it and scrap everything most (not all) settlers return to normal, all trappers that are then generated are normal. But raiders, although appearing normal, all have the same face.

 

Also using the two mods does cause the bug to exist in both the commonwealth and far harbor.

[LeonTubrok]

Hmm, that may explain why even thou i have better settlers installed i dont see much variation in them even when not borked by scrapeverything.

there must be something a few mods are doing with NPCs that is screwing things up.

 

i wonder, gonna try reinstalling better settlers again now iv removed the scrap everything far harbor mod, see if that starts more variation in NPCs again

 

Edit, removed better settlers, beautiful female settlers and The new settlers a plus overhaul vanilla.

did i clean save then reinstalled better settlers and beautiful female settlers (left new settlers off as didnt seem make any difference) and place all later in order than scrap everything.

all looks ok for now, suppose the test will be when new settlers and NPCs show up.

 

load order:

scrap everything - core

scrap everything -automatron

better settlers

beautiful female settlers

sc- better settlers patch

better settlers no lollygagging

better settlers clean face

better settlers far harbor

Edited June 30, 2016 by LeonTubrok

[AlacrityFitzhugh]

Well... I would say there is more to this than scrap everything personally. Scrap everything does start the bug, I have noted that on a clean play then installing scrap everything. But if you use the raider overhaul is causes the bug to affect not only settlers and trappers... but it then causes the raiders and some random encounter npcs to then become glitched. In my experience so far... after the raider overhaul making the glitch worse and removing it and scrap everything most (not all) settlers return to normal, all trappers that are then generated are normal. But raiders, although appearing normal, all have the same face.

 

Also using the two mods does cause the bug to exist in both the commonwealth and far harbor.

 

Interesting. I also use Raider Overhaul, but I haven't noticed a change in Trapper or Raider faces (though, that may be because I'm always blowing their heads off from a safe distance, and some like wearing crab traps on their heads...). I'll keep an eye out for that.