hundinman Posted January 1, 2004 Share Posted January 1, 2004 I would like to remind the members of this board, you all forgot to write Jesus a Happy Birthday card. You accidently wrote it to a mister 'Kringle'. And also remember, you don't ask for presents from Jesus on his birthday, you buy them for him. Christ gives his regards,--Wesay very well said wesay! I respect what you wrote. Happy new year and Merry CHRISTmas! hundinman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wesaynothin Posted January 1, 2004 Share Posted January 1, 2004 Thank you Hundiniman. And yes, I am Jewish. My father was esco-whatever, but he converted after marrying my mom. (You can't make us become Christian. We want our religion to stay on.) I have grown up athiest truly, but I put Jewish on any forms. Anyways, Christmas is not meant for family at all. It is about buying presents for Jesus Christ and having birthday cake. "But wesay, your Jewish, how would you know?" Simple. I'm Jewish. I don't give a crap about your 'be together' hoohaw. All I think, my family thinks, every other Jew I have met thinks is, "Why in the hell did a birthday turn into a f***in celebration with a tree and ham? JESUS IS A JEW! HE CAN'T EAT HAM!!!" That may just be a view from a jaded religion which is slowly dieing, but hey, it's still an opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hayabusa Posted January 1, 2004 Share Posted January 1, 2004 true with a ham. Anyway, I`m going back to the idea of giving up Christmas as Christian and make it pagan. It`s been almost done already... the Gift`s day, or Commerce Day or something. End with hipocryci it is the family or the religion on these days important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hundinman Posted January 1, 2004 Share Posted January 1, 2004 Yes but do people who are only Jewish by race not eat ham? I thought that it was only by way of the religion that jews don't eat ham. I could be wrong about that. But I don know that jesus was not a jewish as the religion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wesaynothin Posted January 1, 2004 Share Posted January 1, 2004 The really 'orthodox' don't eat ham, as the really orthodox in any religion doesn't do what they're not. but then of course, back when Jesus was around, you were either a orthodox Jew, a believer in the Roman Gods, or dead. That's where the Ham remark came from. ...Is it just me or is this thread turning out to be me proving Judaism is basically just the same as Christianity? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malchik Posted January 1, 2004 Share Posted January 1, 2004 I wish I could stay behind and kill everyone who follows satan. If you don't follow god then you follow satan and are condemned to hell for all of eternity. Hundinman A bit extreme isn't it. If you believe in Christianity you will note that it preaches tolerance and the words 'Justice is mine, saith the Lord' come to mind. So if you are a true Christian you need not make value judgements about others accepting that it will all be done for you. Please refrain from making remarks that others can find offensive. You may consider your beliefs are facts but they are not facts they are beliefs and no one else has to believe them if they choose not to. Now can we gt this back on topic, please. What is a fact is that many elements of Christmas derive from pagan, druidical rites that early Christians had to adopt to make the religion more appealing to the masses. It only goes to show it's been all about marketing (I think that's merchandising in the US) from the start! These days the marketing has just got out of hand. It's nice to see from several of the above posts that we may be getting fed up with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eltiraaz Posted January 1, 2004 Share Posted January 1, 2004 Yes but do people who are only Jewish by race not eat ham? I thought that it was only by way of the religion that jews don't eat ham. I could be wrong about that. But I don know that jesus was not a jewish as the religion Jesus was a Jew. In both senses, nationality and religiously. He was not a Christian, as many people believe. Christianity was founded after his death, when the Jewish population refused to accept Jesus as the Messiah and his apostles and followers broke off from the Jewish faith and founded Christianity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hundinman Posted January 2, 2004 Share Posted January 2, 2004 Yes, Christianity means to be Christ like. If you are a Christian it doesn't mean that you are like Christ but it shows that you try and follow His eaxample. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohGr Posted January 2, 2004 Share Posted January 2, 2004 I wish I could stay behind and kill everyone who follows satan. If you don't follow god then you follow satan and are condemned to hell for all of eternity. HundinmanA bit extreme isn't it. If you believe in Christianity you will note that it preaches tolerance and the words 'Justice is mine, saith the Lord' come to mind. So if you are a true Christian you need not make value judgements about others accepting that it will all be done for you. Please refrain from making remarks that others can find offensive. You may consider your beliefs are facts but they are not facts they are beliefs and no one else has to believe them if they choose not to. Now can we gt this back on topic, please. What is a fact is that many elements of Christmas derive from pagan, druidical rites that early Christians had to adopt to make the religion more appealing to the masses. It only goes to show it's been all about marketing (I think that's merchandising in the US) from the start! These days the marketing has just got out of hand. It's nice to see from several of the above posts that we may be getting fed up with it. this reminds me of a dodgy thing i had at my school, these people were trying to brainwash us all by saying if you dont believe in any religion, you will go to hell, id just like to ask the question, if an atheist does not believe in a heaven nor hell, then how can one go to hell, how is that possible, in fact, how can such a thing be said, something that does not make any sence whatsoever.as for the killing satanists huindiman said......that is too harsh, im sure people are aware of how extreme satanists take their religion, although, you may not call it a religion, i call it a revolution, im noy saying i take any interest or are a satanist, but i reckon the whole idea is a revolution to christianity, think about it, the chruch burnings, claiming the bible was fake, then theres idiots like marylin manson who support a church of satan which killed the revolution, back in 1990, i read that a man names Varg Vikerness, in normandy, participated in 35 church burnings, and he wasnt a satanist, although, his supporters were, they believed in a way to wipe out christianity, then forget about satanism, then any other religion. then again, you cant call everything true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eltiraaz Posted January 2, 2004 Share Posted January 2, 2004 Yes, Christianity preaches tolerance and Jesus even told us to "love our enemies", but I often find it hard to have sympathy for people who would actually follow satan. It's my personal belief that they think they're "cool" or "rebellious" by doing the exact opposite of what the bible tells them to do. I dont know all the specifics about the "faith", but to me it seems quite ridiculous. <_< . But I suppose thats how an atheist sees theists. Weird. :lol: Eltiraaz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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