seemingly random mods breaking everything?

[dontusethewaffles]

[uPDATE: SOLVED - see post #4]

 

bear with me on this one, it's kinda long and weird.

 

i recently got back into Oblivion and of course i eventually wanted to add more mods to my game - new armors, new clothes, little stuff like that. so i do. and upon loading a save, Oblivion crashes. so i uninstall the new mods, expecting it to be fixed, right?

wrong. CTD on loading save or starting new game. main menu works fine, but trying to enter the game at all just will not function.

 

that was the first time it happened. i am now on the second.

 

i have un- and re-installed Oblivion several times now, then added mods back in slowly, to the same effect each time. i've regenerated my .ini file and only changed what i needed for Oblivion Reloaded to work properly. and as i reinstall my mods, i'm finding that ones that worked perfectly fine before are now making my game CTD on attempting to load a save or start a new game. it's getting late here; i haven't finished reinstalling all my mods, but most of them are in place:

 

http://pastebin.com/NR49F8DA (current load order; stable, will load a save without crapping its pants)

 

so far, the mods that have made my game crash have been:

• HTB Unholy Chapel
• Vipcxj Real High Heels System
• HGEC with or without BBB :psyduck:

i've pasted the results of my last two Windows Event Viewer entries into this pastebin right here, just in case anyone can use that. my event viewer log is littered with these. hundreds. always the same output every time. i understand there's a memory access violation going on, but i don't understand what's causing it. some of my saves work, but most of them just crash like that no matter what i have or don't have installed.

 

long story short, seemingly random mods will break everything, including mods i've been using for 2+ years now with no previous issues, regardless of install status. it will crash a loading save, it will crash when i start a new game.

 

i use Wrye Bash as my installer for most things, and OBMM where necessary. i build a bashed patch, Oblivion is installed on a different hard drive than Windows, i don't have the Steam version but rather the retail one, i've done clean reinstalls several times, i have the latest version of OBSE, defragging didn't help, and i've hit the end of my rope.

 

can anyone tell me what's going on here or at least help me figure out what's going on here? i just want to play my game. (â¥ï¹â¥) any help is appreciated. thanks!

 

no really why is the body replacer crashing my game

Edited July 19, 2016 by dontusethewaffles

[kingtitan]

This sounds like an issue that may be related to more than one thing (possibly). My initial question would be have you changed your OS since you originally played the game and now, once you are back to playing it? How long has it been, and is there anything else significant that could have changed on your computer as well?

 

One thing I would highly recommend is installing a handful of mods at a time (5-10) and seeing if there are any issues. Playing with ~150 active ESPs is almost inevitably going to cause you issues.

 

Also remember that sometimes crashes in Oblivion can occur for any number of reasons, whether there are logic errors or something as simple as a mod trying to load a specific mesh/texture that is missing.

[dontusethewaffles]

This sounds like an issue that may be related to more than one thing (possibly). My initial question would be have you changed your OS since you originally played the game and now, once you are back to playing it? How long has it been, and is there anything else significant that could have changed on your computer as well?

 

One thing I would highly recommend is installing a handful of mods at a time (5-10) and seeing if there are any issues. Playing with ~150 active ESPs is almost inevitably going to cause you issues.

 

Also remember that sometimes crashes in Oblivion can occur for any number of reasons, whether there are logic errors or something as simple as a mod trying to load a specific mesh/texture that is missing.

i did upgrade from win7 to win10 last summer, but i've only recently started having these issues. i migrated back to OBMM for mod installation for everything but Oblivion Reloaded, which is now causing crashing while the others are fine. :psyduck:

the only significant thing about my computer i've changed recently was after this all started - clean reinstall of my nvidia driver.

 

i have been activating one to five mods (depending on size and scope) at a time, then testing if my old save loads. if not, i test if a save created with no mods loads. if that doesn't work, i test new game. if that fails it's time to cry. i'm just absolutely baffled as to why a mod that worked fine, with zero issues, would suddenly cause fatal errors. o_O

 

Also remember that sometimes crashes in Oblivion can occur for any number of reasons, whether there are logic errors or something as simple as a mod trying to load a specific mesh/texture that is missing.

and that's my biggest issue - if i knew what the source of the problem was, i could at least try to fix it. it's my understanding that Oblivion doesn't really have a logging system, so i'm taking shots in the dark every time something goes wrong. :| more often than not, i lose my patience and say "just nuke the damn thing and start again" which is tedious as balls.

[dontusethewaffles]

UPDATE: I FIXED IT

 

i did yet another clean reinstall of Oblivion and then decided to try Mod Organizer. i already use it for Skyrim, so why not give it a shot with Oblivion since they are compatible.

 

it works. i can load saves i thought i'd never see again. i went from thinking i'd lost half an hour of gameplay, to thinking i'd lost nine and a half hours, to not having lost any.

 

this has been a massive ordeal that could have been solved earlier had i remembered MO was compatible with Oblivion.