Need help with random CTDs

ChaosKitty768 · July 7, 2016

Hello. I have been experiencing CTDs in and around Whiterun, and sometimes randomly out in the open. I have checked the load order with LOOT, cleaned ITMs with TES5Edit, removed conflicting mods (some were kind of experimental anyway). I have unistalled and reinstalled several times, verified the game cache through Steam, and searched all over the internet for the solution to my problem. Everything I've tried either cuts down the CTDs for a brief period of time, or increased their occurance.

Here is my mod list: http://imgur.com/Zrmir4b

I am also using the tweaks from http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/7638/?

And my load order: http://imgur.com/wJC1tUF

I'm currently using an MSI Apache GE72 with GPU: Nvidia GTX 960m; CPU: i7-5700HQ; 16 GB RAM; all on Win 10. I don't know what other information I can provide... Thanks in advance for your time.

ChaosKitty768 · July 7, 2016

I also clean my saves with the program from www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/52363/?

I am relatively new to using mods, everything I have done so far is from trying fixes made by people who are better at it than me... I think I spend more time investigating possible issues than I spend playing the game at the moment...

Any help would be appreciated.

diggydug · July 7, 2016

Do you have Papyrus logs? They may say exactly who the offender is.

I'm not sure how effective that script cleaner is, but it does get a lot of love and I assume you got problems with the game before using it.

For me LOOT sorts SkyUI before Dual Sheath Redux. Not sure why that'd be different, is your LOOt up to date?

43 2b SkyUI.esp

44 2c Dual Sheath Redux.esp

ChaosKitty768 · July 7, 2016

I tried Papyrus one time before, but it was still in my early troubleshooting days... I forgot the name to it, but I will try it again. Yeah, I was having a HUGE CTD issue before trying that script cleaner, it solved a lot of issues for me.

I updated LOOT to its newest version a few days ago. I'll look into the SkyUI thing if Papyrus doesn't pull anything up.

Thanks so much!

diggydug · July 8, 2016

https://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/703954-are-you-having-constant-exterior-ctds-ive-finally-found-your-solution/

That may help you out with the logs.

The LOOT thing is strange I updated mine last week. Peculiar but likely not going to fix your game.

ChaosKitty768 · July 8, 2016

I finally got a log to generate, there a a LOT of errors, I think I may have to start anew with my game.

[07/07/2016 - 08:45:51PM] Papyrus log opened (PC)
[07/07/2016 - 08:45:51PM] Function GetEffectMagnitudes in the empty state on type Ingredient does not exist. Function will not be flagged as callable from tasklets.
[07/07/2016 - 08:45:51PM] Update budget: 1.200000ms (Extra tasklet budget: 1.200000ms, Load screen budget: 500.000000ms)
[07/07/2016 - 08:45:51PM] Memory page: 128 (min) 512 (max) 76800 (max total)
[07/07/2016 - 08:46:00PM] Cannot open store for class "fissinterface", missing file?
[07/07/2016 - 08:46:00PM] Cannot open store for class "_arissa_inpc_behavior", missing file?
[07/07/2016 - 08:46:00PM] Cannot open store for class "chherdingquestscript", missing file?
[07/07/2016 - 08:46:01PM] Cannot open store for class "ARTH_OCS_MapMarkerSphereTGRiften", missing file?
[07/07/2016 - 08:46:01PM] Error: Unable to bind script ARTH_OCS_MapMarkerSphereTGRiften to (3E058A3B) because their base types do not match
[07/07/2016 - 08:46:05PM] warning: Property SSoBDebugMode on script TGCrownSSoBMaintenance attached to alias TGCrownPlayerAlias on quest TGCrown (0009DD77) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[07/07/2016 - 08:46:05PM] warning: Property HircinesRingPower on script companionshousekeepingscript attached to C00 (0004B2D9) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[07/07/2016 - 08:46:05PM] VM is freezing...
[07/07/2016 - 08:46:05PM] VM is frozen
[07/07/2016 - 08:46:05PM] Reverting game...
[07/07/2016 - 08:46:05PM] Error: Unable to bind script ARTH_OCS_MapMarkerSphereTGRiften to (3E058A3B) because their base types do not match
[07/07/2016 - 08:46:05PM] warning: Property HircinesRingPower on script companionshousekeepingscript attached to C00 (0004B2D9) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[07/07/2016 - 08:46:06PM] warning: Property SSoBDebugMode on script TGCrownSSoBMaintenance attached to alias TGCrownPlayerAlias on quest TGCrown (0009DD77) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[07/07/2016 - 08:46:14PM] Loading game...
[07/07/2016 - 08:46:15PM] VM is thawing...
[07/07/2016 - 08:46:15PM] FNIS AA started (load)
[07/07/2016 - 08:46:15PM] Error: File "Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp" does not exist or is not currently loaded.
stack:
<unknown self>.Game.GetFormFromFile() - "<native>" Line ?
[uSLEEPVersionTracking (0500F458)].USLEEP_VersionTrackingScript.ProcessRetroScripts() - "USLEEP_VersionTrackingScript.psc" Line 20
[alias Player on quest USLEEPVersionTracking (0500F458)].USLEEP_VersionTrackingAliasScript.OnPlayerLoadGame() - "USLEEP_VersionTrackingAliasScript.psc" Line 6
[07/07/2016 - 08:46:15PM] Error: File "Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp" does not exist or is not currently loaded.
stack:
<unknown self>.Game.GetFormFromFile() - "<native>" Line ?
[uSLEEPVersionTracking (0500F458)].USLEEP_VersionTrackingScript.ProcessRetroScripts() - "USLEEP_VersionTrackingScript.psc" Line 24
[alias Player on quest USLEEPVersionTracking (0500F458)].USLEEP_VersionTrackingAliasScript.OnPlayerLoadGame() - "USLEEP_VersionTrackingAliasScript.psc" Line 6
[07/07/2016 - 08:46:15PM] Error: File "Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp" does not exist or is not currently loaded.
stack:
<unknown self>.Game.GetFormFromFile() - "<native>" Line ?
[uSLEEPVersionTracking (0500F458)].USLEEP_VersionTrackingScript.ProcessRetroScripts() - "USLEEP_VersionTrackingScript.psc" Line 28
[alias Player on quest USLEEPVersionTracking (0500F458)].USLEEP_VersionTrackingAliasScript.OnPlayerLoadGame() - "USLEEP_VersionTrackingAliasScript.psc" Line 6
[07/07/2016 - 08:46:15PM] Error: File "Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp" does not exist or is not currently loaded.
stack:
<unknown self>.Game.GetFormFromFile() - "<native>" Line ?
[uSLEEPVersionTracking (0500F458)].USLEEP_VersionTrackingScript.ProcessRetroScripts() - "USLEEP_VersionTrackingScript.psc" Line 32
[alias Player on quest USLEEPVersionTracking (0500F458)].USLEEP_VersionTrackingAliasScript.OnPlayerLoadGame() - "USLEEP_VersionTrackingAliasScript.psc" Line 6
[07/07/2016 - 08:46:15PM] ========== Convenient Horses: Scanning for supported plugins...
[07/07/2016 - 08:46:15PM] ========== Auto Unequip Ammo: Scanning for supported plugins...
[07/07/2016 - 08:46:15PM] ========== ERRORS RELATED TO MISSING FILES SHOULD BE IGNORED!
[07/07/2016 - 08:46:15PM] ========== ERRORS RELATED TO MISSING FILES SHOULD BE IGNORED!
[07/07/2016 - 08:46:15PM] Error: File "XFLMain.esm" does not exist or is not currently loaded.
stack:
<unknown self>.Game.GetFormFromFile() - "<native>" Line ?
[AUA (0E00C6C2)].AUAQuestScript.GameLoaded() - "AUAQuestScript.psc" Line 40
[AUA (0E00C6C2)].AUAQuestScript.OnUpdate() - "AUAQuestScript.psc" Line 73
[07/07/2016 - 08:46:15PM] Error: File "Falskaar.esm" does not exist or is not currently loaded.
stack:
<unknown self>.Game.GetFormFromFile() - "<native>" Line ?
[CH (0F020329)].chquestscript.GameLoaded() - "CHQuestScript.psc" Line 122
[CH (0F020329)].chquestscript.OnUpdate() - "CHQuestScript.psc" Line 157
[07/07/2016 - 08:46:15PM] ========== Auto Unequip Ammo: Scan complete.
[07/07/2016 - 08:46:15PM] Error: File "Wyrmstooth.esp" does not exist or is not currently loaded.
stack:
<unknown self>.Game.GetFormFromFile() - "<native>" Line ?
[CH (0F020329)].chquestscript.GameLoaded() - "CHQuestScript.psc" Line 123
[CH (0F020329)].chquestscript.OnUpdate() - "CHQuestScript.psc" Line 157
[07/07/2016 - 08:46:15PM] Error: File "Convenient Horse Herding.esp" does not exist or is not currently loaded.
stack:
<unknown self>.Game.GetFormFromFile() - "<native>" Line ?
[CH (0F020329)].chquestscript.GameLoaded() - "CHQuestScript.psc" Line 124
[CH (0F020329)].chquestscript.OnUpdate() - "CHQuestScript.psc" Line 157
[07/07/2016 - 08:46:15PM] Error: File "XFLMain.esm" does not exist or is not currently loaded.
stack:
<unknown self>.Game.GetFormFromFile() - "<native>" Line ?
[CH (0F020329)].chquestscript.GameLoaded() - "CHQuestScript.psc" Line 125
[CH (0F020329)].chquestscript.OnUpdate() - "CHQuestScript.psc" Line 157
[07/07/2016 - 08:46:15PM] Error: File "3DNPC.esp" does not exist or is not currently loaded.
stack:
<unknown self>.Game.GetFormFromFile() - "<native>" Line ?
[CH (0F020329)].chquestscript.GameLoaded() - "CHQuestScript.psc" Line 127
[CH (0F020329)].chquestscript.OnUpdate() - "CHQuestScript.psc" Line 157
[07/07/2016 - 08:46:15PM] Error: File "HothFollower.esp" does not exist or is not currently loaded.
stack:
<unknown self>.Game.GetFormFromFile() - "<native>" Line ?
[CH (0F020329)].chquestscript.GameLoaded() - "CHQuestScript.psc" Line 128
[CH (0F020329)].chquestscript.OnUpdate() - "CHQuestScript.psc" Line 157
[07/07/2016 - 08:46:15PM] Error: File "CompanionValfar.esp" does not exist or is not currently loaded.
stack:
<unknown self>.Game.GetFormFromFile() - "<native>" Line ?
[CH (0F020329)].chquestscript.GameLoaded() - "CHQuestScript.psc" Line 129
[CH (0F020329)].chquestscript.OnUpdate() - "CHQuestScript.psc" Line 157
[07/07/2016 - 08:46:15PM] Error: File "CompanionArissa.esp" does not exist or is not currently loaded.
stack:
<unknown self>.Game.GetFormFromFile() - "<native>" Line ?
[CH (0F020329)].chquestscript.GameLoaded() - "CHQuestScript.psc" Line 130
[CH (0F020329)].chquestscript.OnUpdate() - "CHQuestScript.psc" Line 157
[07/07/2016 - 08:46:15PM] Error: File "SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esp" does not exist or is not currently loaded.
stack:
<unknown self>.Game.GetFormFromFile() - "<native>" Line ?
[CH (0F020329)].chquestscript.GameLoaded() - "CHQuestScript.psc" Line 131
[CH (0F020329)].chquestscript.OnUpdate() - "CHQuestScript.psc" Line 157
[07/07/2016 - 08:46:15PM] Error: INI setting "f3PBoltTiltUpAngle:Combat" does not exist
stack:
<unknown self>.utility.SetINIFloat() - "<native>" Line ?
[alias refPlayer on quest JaxonzArcheryUtil (3C002DC2)].JaxonzArcheryUtilZeroIn.OnPlayerLoadGame() - "JaxonzArcheryUtilZeroIn.psc" Line 195
[07/07/2016 - 08:46:15PM] ========== Convenient Horses: Scan complete.
[07/07/2016 - 08:46:15PM] ========== Convenient Horses: Unregistered for all key press events.
[07/07/2016 - 08:46:15PM] ========== Convenient Horses: Registered for 3 key press events.
[07/07/2016 - 08:46:15PM] InitWidgetLoader()
[07/07/2016 - 08:46:16PM] Error: Unable to call RegisterForSingleUpdate - no native object bound to the script object, or object is of incorrect type
stack:
[Active effect 1 on (000D97DD)].DualSheathReduxEffect.RegisterForSingleUpdate() - "<native>" Line ?
[Active effect 1 on (000D97DD)].DualSheathReduxEffect.OnUpdate() - "DualSheathReduxEffect.psc" Line ?
[07/07/2016 - 08:46:16PM] FNIS aa GetAAprefixList mod: XPMSE nMods: 1
[07/07/2016 - 08:46:16PM] FNIS aa GetAAsetList mod: XPMSE nSets: 16
[07/07/2016 - 08:46:16PM] FNIS aa GetAAsetList mod: XPMSE nSets: 16
[07/07/2016 - 08:46:16PM] FNIS aa GetAAsetList mod: XPMSE nSets: 16
[07/07/2016 - 08:46:16PM] FNIS aa GetAAsetList mod: XPMSE nSets: 16
[07/07/2016 - 08:46:16PM] FNIS aa GetAAsetList mod: XPMSE nSets: 16
[07/07/2016 - 08:46:16PM] FNIS aa GetAAsetList mod: XPMSE nSets: 16
[07/07/2016 - 08:46:16PM] FNIS aa GetAAsetList mod: XPMSE nSets: 16
[07/07/2016 - 08:46:16PM] FNIS aa GetAAsetList mod: XPMSE nSets: 16
[07/07/2016 - 08:46:16PM] FNIS aa GetAAsetList mod: XPMSE nSets: 16
[07/07/2016 - 08:46:16PM] FNIS aa GetAAsetList mod: XPMSE nSets: 16
[07/07/2016 - 08:46:16PM] FNIS aa GetAAsetList mod: XPMSE nSets: 16
[07/07/2016 - 08:46:16PM] FNIS aa GetAAsetList mod: XPMSE nSets: 16
[07/07/2016 - 08:46:16PM] FNIS aa GetAAsetList mod: XPMSE nSets: 16
[07/07/2016 - 08:46:16PM] FNIS aa GetAAsetList mod: XPMSE nSets: 16
[07/07/2016 - 08:46:16PM] FNIS aa GetAAsetList mod: XPMSE nSets: 16
[07/07/2016 - 08:46:16PM] FNIS aa GetAAsetList mod: XPMSE nSets: 16
[07/07/2016 - 08:46:16PM] XPMSE MainQuest Initialization successful.
[07/07/2016 - 08:46:16PM] [sic_configmenuscript <SIC_ConfigMenuQuest (120C4C3A)>]: Loaded user settings.
[07/07/2016 - 08:46:48PM] VM is freezing...
[07/07/2016 - 08:46:48PM] VM is frozen
[07/07/2016 - 08:46:48PM] Saving game...
[07/07/2016 - 08:46:49PM] VM is thawing...

It looks like I may have made a HUGE mistake while cleaning with TES5Edit, I have to learn more... Thought I had it figured out. :pinch:

This is very complicated to me... is it new game material? I know that Helgen Reborn and Hearthfires Multiple Adoptions both say that they have to be present upon starting a new game, but HRB activated at start glitches my game. I'm not sure what to do here, can I beg your assistance one more time?

Edited July 8, 2016 by ChaosKitty768

diggydug · July 8, 2016

I will try to help tomorrow. I will say I added Helgen Reborn mid-game and it's worked fine so far and I've done most of it.

Is this log from a crash? I don't look at Papyrus logs much but it looks messy, but working, as I understand it. If that's not post-CTD could you please play until you get a CTD and share the fresh log? The end of the log should help indicate why the CTD occurred.

ChaosKitty768 · July 8, 2016

That was generated directly after a CTD. I played for about 30 mins until a crash, but no log was generated. Then I went back in and played for about 10 mins before it crashed. That's when the log I posted was generated.

diggydug · July 9, 2016

[07/07/2016 - 08:46:16PM] [sic_configmenuscript <SIC_ConfigMenuQuest (120C4C3A)>]: Loaded user settings.
[07/07/2016 - 08:46:48PM] VM is freezing...

Maybe I'm just too unfamiliar with papyrus logs to help but as far as I can tell it's not logged there. What I pasted just shows a 32 minute jump that doesn't indicate anything to me.

Does LOOT give any warnings that may be indicative?

ChaosKitty768 · July 9, 2016

No warnings through loot as far as I can tell... Maybe this is just one of those things? Sometimes my disk usage would max out and cause a crash before I followed someone's directions to make it use GPU instead of CPU, I also can't use any ENBs or texture enhancer packs without massive FR loss despite the size of my GPU... Maybe its just something up with my laptop... I'll do some more research, then probably chalk it up to inexperience and go back to quicksaving every time I do something. Thanks for all of you time and patience. Edited July 9, 2016 by ChaosKitty768

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