Synusoidal Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 So right now, my main character in Skyrim is level 35, and I've been focusing mainly on side quests and finished the Dark Brotherhood quest line (so I also got all the delicious armours and weapons). I started my character with the concept of an assassin in mind, and I picked the perks accordingly. Until level 30, the game was incredibly difficult at times. I had to turn down the difficulty every time I encountered a troll or giants, and my greatest enemy was always the cave bear. Those things are vicious! Amazingly enough, I has no trouble with dragons. However, after that, I spent some more points in Sneak and One-Handed, and now suddenly the game is easy-mode on highest difficulty. Enemies fail to see me when I'm literally 3 feet away from them. I can one-shot pretty much anything, and the enemies are incredibly stupid when you're playing Stealth. The guy is standing there, I sneak up behind his guard, take him out, and he just stands there, totally ignorant to the fact that I killed his buddy 3 feet away. The game's almost turned into a grind. Go to dungeon XYZ, one-shot-sneak-kill all zombies/bandits, kill the boss using the hide-and-seek approach, exit, rinse and repeat. Even trolls and cave bears are no longer a threat as I can either sneak past them or just do massive critical damage. I can literally finish every mission, and clear every cave without anyone ever touching me. Has anyone else experienced this? Have you experienced this on other character builds by any chance? Is the game just generally supposed to be this easy in the mid-30s range? Right now, I'm taking a break and playing a berserker-type character and focusing on Heavy Armour, Destruction, One-Handed, and Two-Handed. I'm hoping the combat would be more fun and exciting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moikko Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 What perks did u take when this happened?You sure the difficulty meter is on correct position? If it is then try and make it harder!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synusoidal Posted November 17, 2011 Author Share Posted November 17, 2011 What perks did u take when this happened?You sure the difficulty meter is on correct position? If it is then try and make it harder!? The difficulty is at highest, I'm pretty sure of this. As for the perks, I've taken everything in the Stealth tree (minus the last one), and I have the Dark Brotherhood armour. I use Mehrune's Razor and Blade of Woe as my weapons, and my sneak-stabs do x30 damage (thanks to the Brotherhood armour gloves). Other than that, I've scattered my points in various trees, like Restoration, One-Handed, Destruction, and Alchemy. I wonder how the game would be if I got rid of my Dark Brotherhood stuff... Still, I'd like to know if anyone else who has taken the Stealth route feels this way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moikko Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 well im leveling up my own wannabe-assassin, but haven't got that far yet! In lower levels i do see the difference, much harder than my warrior/mage guy!Have to see what happens when i get perks leveled up more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renanhsantos Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 (edited) I feel your pain. Assassin's Blade perk + Dark brotherhood gloves gives you 30x sneak damage with dagger... pretty much anything goes down in one hit. Edited November 17, 2011 by renanhsantos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synusoidal Posted November 17, 2011 Author Share Posted November 17, 2011 well im leveling up my own wannabe-assassin, but haven't got that far yet! In lower levels i do see the difference, much harder than my warrior/mage guy!Have to see what happens when i get perks leveled up more At lower levels, it's stupidly frustrating at times because you die so often (you sneak up on a bear and try to do a sneak-attack...and it only takes away one-fifth of his HP before he starts mauling at you and tearing you to shreds). I'm having a much easier time on my Two-Handed warrior right now who just charges head-first into combat. But I wonder if the difficulty curve for this warrior is smooth and steady or not. Because for the assassin, it wasn't. It was super hard at first, and then suddenly turned super easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moikko Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 Well i think 30x is pretty harsh for the poor enemies! I think the 15x would be the limit as that sounds harsh too.. if u have a dagger that does 10 dmg and you stealth with it, so you deal 150, which is fecking a lot :O I think this needs to be nerfed in someway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddibot Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 Sneak is too easy, levels too quickly (because stealth kills level sneak and not one-handed) and is just generally overpowered. If you're dual-wielding daggers, you can often get two strikes in before an enemy turns around, can pretty easily do 1000 damage in a second. No bosses stand a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saldu Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 As for if this happens with other builds too, for mages, it certainly doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synusoidal Posted November 17, 2011 Author Share Posted November 17, 2011 (edited) Well i think 30x is pretty harsh for the poor enemies! I think the 15x would be the limit as that sounds harsh too.. if u have a dagger that does 10 dmg and you stealth with it, so you deal 150, which is fecking a lot :O I think this needs to be nerfed in someway This is only part of the problem in my opinion, though. Because if, for example, there is a room full of enemies and you approach one and kill him in one shot, and if the rest became aware and started attacking you, then it wouldn't be so powerful. It would also require more strategy because you have "one shot" and you need to make it count, and so pick out the toughest enemy and deal with the rest. However, that doesn't happen. The AI is incredibly predictable and easy to fool even on highest difficulty when you're trying to sneak around. I kill a guy in a room, and then run back to a hiding spot. If his friend (that's a big 'if') notices his dead corpse, he raises his sword and starts walking around a bit before going back to his normal patrol route, saying "It must be my imagination again!". Yes, you're imagining the dead body of your friend...and his friend...and that other guy. I almost feel sorry for how stupid the AI is sometimes. Don't get me wrong, when the AI is actually fighting you, they're pretty damn smart in blocking, dodging an stuff like that. But when it comes to stealth mechanics, the AI is just absolutely ridiculous. This is the main issue, I believe. To me, in a stealth game, if you make some noise, enemies should become suspicious and start searching the place of origin of the noise, then go into a random patrol route for a while before going back to their original route. If they see a dead body, they should go into a frenzy and try to look everywhere, not walk off like nothing happened at all. I know Skyrim isn't a stealth game, but come on. Put some effort, Bethesda. Edited November 17, 2011 by Synusoidal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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