Need help with Fallout 4 - Vanishing objects and corrupt textures

[Calzien]

Note: I posted this topic under the Hardware and Software forum but being specifically about Fallout 4 and I can't move it I'm reposting it here where I should have.

 

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First off, specs. Not sure how much is needed for troubleshooting but here goes.

 

Asrock Z75 Pro Motherboard

Intel i5-3570K @ 3.40GHz (Not overclocked.)

Corsair Vengeance 16GB (2x8GB) DDR3 1600 MHz (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory

Diamond Radeon RX 480 8GB Graphics Card

LG Ultrawide Monitor (2560 x 1080)

Corsair CX750M 750 Watt PSU

Windows 10 Home

Vanilla ENB (Performance) by TheDespicableMind

 

As I wrote in a different thread I've been plagued with FPS issues for Fallout 4 but I have managed to solve a small portion of that. However I've also had issues with textures corrupting/objects disappearing too leading me to believe it could be a bad card.

 

In short, some objects (Like tables and the round flowery rug.) have suffered problems with turning purple as if the textures are missing. But this seemingly only applies when looking at it from a certain distance. Get up close and the purple effect fades out showing the actual textures are there. Likewise I have had the textures on wooden objects glow a funky green, and metal objects go all "confetti mode" (Pixelated garbage.) on me. But as usual, the textures return to normal when you get near like there's another texture over it. This isn't immediate, after about 20 minutes of play I can find the effect kicking in.

 

On top of that some objects seemingly disappear if you aren't near them. One instance my wire fence around a Brahmin pen just vanished. But approaching it the fence didn't "pop" in but kind of faded in and out of existence. Another the "pipes" on the stove would sort of fade in/out. Another instance the body of some of my turrets simply didn't exist.

 

I've tweaked settings, checked if my card was overheated, reinstalled my texture pack (I only use the FO4 Texture Optimization Project mod.) and the problem persists. I've tried to research this to no avail and the oddest part is it happens even when the card isn't under load. I haven't tried other games since I don't play much of anything other than Fallout 4 right now. I will also note that the card HASN'T crashed or anything yet so I'm not sure if this is something else or the card itself. My video drivers are up to date and I have reinstalled them twice using Device Driver Uninstaller (DDU) both times to ensure the drivers were fresh. Any ideas? I'm hesitant to do a full fresh install of Fallout 4 unless absolutely needed as I have a high certaincy it will NOT fix the problem.

[dragonslayer2k12]

You have the latest most controversial amd product you can buy and the most evil and sneaky version of windows ever made yes you will have some problems. I have an old HD7950 amd card and recently after starting a new game I get out of the chamber and get over to the terminal to read it trying to open the wife chamber but as I look at the terminal it was some funky RGB colors all over it until I get right up on it then it is normal again. I quit the game, turned off my pc and cleaned the dust filters blew out the cooling fans etc buttoned all back up tried again and everything was fine. My computer is overclocked and if it is not getting enough air it will cause problems for games and high demand stuff.

 

The RX480 who knows if it really goes over the max wattage for the PCI-E slot? All the review sites went nuts after some people had problems with the card and nobody can give a solid answer but amd is updating some drivers for it. Best thing to do was to buy an older card that works and not this new thing right now. Let them revise it three or four times until they finally get it right maybe by the end of the year if they have any sense left at all.

 

Why people think they really need windows 10 I will never know but windows 7 works just fine. This game is not a DX12 game and unless you are playing one of the few DX12 games on the market a lot there is no reason to use windows 10 but if it came with your pc then you have to live with it.

 

Maybe get rid of that dam enb mod it might stop messing up, I know... I want to use enb too but the only person it works correctly for is boris the maker.

[Calzien]

You have the latest most controversial amd product you can buy and the most evil and sneaky version of windows ever made yes you will have some problems. I have an old HD7950 amd card and recently after starting a new game I get out of the chamber and get over to the terminal to read it trying to open the wife chamber but as I look at the terminal it was some funky RGB colors all over it until I get right up on it then it is normal again. I quit the game, turned off my pc and cleaned the dust filters blew out the cooling fans etc buttoned all back up tried again and everything was fine. My computer is overclocked and if it is not getting enough air it will cause problems for games and high demand stuff.

 

The RX480 who knows if it really goes over the max wattage for the PCI-E slot? All the review sites went nuts after some people had problems with the card and nobody can give a solid answer but amd is updating some drivers for it. Best thing to do was to buy an older card that works and not this new thing right now. Let them revise it three or four times until they finally get it right maybe by the end of the year if they have any sense left at all.

 

Why people think they really need windows 10 I will never know but windows 7 works just fine. This game is not a DX12 game and unless you are playing one of the few DX12 games on the market a lot there is no reason to use windows 10 but if it came with your pc then you have to live with it.

 

Maybe get rid of that dam enb mod it might stop messing up, I know... I want to use enb too but the only person it works correctly for is boris the maker.

 

 

 

Soooo the ENB actually is NOT the problem, and neither is Windows 10, and I was using Windows 8 until Microsoft's "mandatory" update fixed that. As for the ENB I even briefly removed the ENB at one point to see if the framerate was due to something with it, that's when I noticed that the tato plants at one of my settlements had taken on a pixelated confetti look. The problem started only a few days ago and this was because I removed my GTX 780 card and installed a RX 480. Previously I did not have this problem, no glitchy textures, no vanishing objects, it started all because I switched video cards. Shutting the game down and restarting actually fixes the problem temporarily until something else decides to either glow green, purple, or turns into a garbled mess of pixels. I even made sure to use the proper procedures when switching cards as I know how testy switching cards can be. Ran DDU, fully uninstalled the drivers. Rebooted into Windows to make sure it wasn't installing any extra drivers. Shut the PC down, swapped cards, booted it back up and installed AMD's drivers. Did a reset of my ini files since I changed graphic cards too. Anyway ATI supposedly fixed the problem with the RX 480's power draw, and I have monitored my system's temps and nothing. No issues so it's not something overheating unless my card isn't reporting it. Still even in an area with a steady 50-60 FPS I got the graphics bug, and Fallout 4 is supposed to be more CPU intensive if I remember hearing correctly.

[dragonslayer2k12]

Windows 10 is not mandatory there are many programs out now that remove the get windows 10 nag screen and fake update. So if your pc came with windows 8 you can go back to it if you want. Sounds like your video card causing problems then, it might be bad and need some warranty because this is the same story I have heard from people with bad video cards for many years now. One of your last options is to check for a bios update for your motherboard.

[Calzien]

Going to try a few more things then probably return the card next week if that is indeed the problem. I purchased it from a local store that has a 30 day return policy so it's still within that time frame. I was hoping someone else may have heard info about this incase it was actually something else causing the problem, or had something like that before. First thought was it could have been overheating from the card or a defect but it wasn't crashing.

EDIT: So I've done some more digging around and this turns out it's NOT a fault of AMD or the card at all but Bethesda's. While primarily AMD cards are more prone it seems it happens even with Nvidia cards too. In short, after awhile of playing the mipmaps go all buggy and the result is this:

http://i688.photobucket.com/albums/vv241/Cliffs/enb2015_12_17_17_53_40_zpsgdlivtqc.jpg

The above image isn't mine but this is exactly the problems I'm running into now. According to some sites this began roughly after Patch 1.4 for some people and Bethesda has yet to fix it. Maybe my GTX 780 (And the fact I never used Volumetric Lighting until I got my new video card.) is immune to this which is why I never had the issue until upgrading to a Radeon RX 480. It's not a bad card, just shoddy work on Bethesda's (Wow, shocker here...) half as usual. To solve it some people have suggested switching from HBAO to SSAO, others have suggested turning off GodRays and as a result Volumetric Lighting. As much as I really enjoy Fallout 4 I'm giving serious reconsideration whether or not I'll ever buy another product from them again. Bugs that can be fixed with mods are one thing, annoying but one thing. Stuff like this... this is another...

[dragonslayer2k12]

That card is cutting edge tech and there are always problems with new new stuff. It doesn't help that amd made it either lol they are getting worse about new stuff lately. I'm really not able to trust their latest drivers I still have one of the early crimson drivers installed on my gaming rig. New games are crap anyway just waiting til the next deus ex game to see if it sucks or not and the next pew pew call of doody game this time in space with space ships and space battles thats it for this year.

[Calzien]

That card is cutting edge tech and there are always problems with new new stuff. It doesn't help that amd made it either lol they are getting worse about new stuff lately. I'm really not able to trust their latest drivers I still have one of the early crimson drivers installed on my gaming rig. New games are crap anyway just waiting til the next deus ex game to see if it sucks or not and the next pew pew call of doody game this time in space with space ships and space battles thats it for this year.

 

I'm guessing you didn't see my edit there but the card is NOT the problem, the problem lies in Bethesda's game itself. The RX 480 has a few issues yes but these are things that AMD has for the most part fixed. The power draw thing was patched in an updated driver and with the WattMan utility you can also edit the voltage used. I adjusted the voltage control (vM) to 1,050 thus lowering it from the default and I immediately saw improvements in my FPS. Being a stock card it's going to naturally sound a lot more louder with the fan but I game with headphones so turning that up isn't a big deal for me to have better cooling. It wasn't overheating at all in the first place but the default setting barely cools the card unless you adjust it.