Help needed... Please???

[g8rk0k]

I am seeing NPC's in the wrong place. An example is the guards in the market district way too far from the door (actually standing near a the wall in front of the pools) and people will disappear and appear more or less between them, as if the door was there and not where you see it. Another example is seeing a pet spawned outside his cage, right next to it rather than inside it. And I also see the same guy walking off the side of the ship because he is trying to stand in a place off to the side of the ship above the water. This isn't happening with everyone, only in certain areas but I keep seeing more and more of it. Also NPC's are always doing that "pondering" gesture too, more often than not and seem to remain in the same cell when they would ordinarily move between cells during the day, like to the library then to the main area, later to bed. They will only move on from that cell when I have entered it. Someone please help, okay? Please???

[LlamaSprinter]

Try re-installing (I know I tell everybody that but most problems are solved by it :))

 

Also, which mods are you using? (If you are using any)

[g8rk0k]

Try re-installing (I know I tell everybody that but most problems are solved by it :))

 

Also, which mods are you using? (If you are using any)

 

I reinstalled wedensday b'cuz I needed to patch up to 1.2.416 and had previously put in the beta SI patch. I had noticed this going on then and had been hoping reinstalling would take care of it but everything seems to be the same as it was before. Here's my load order. I know I have an awful lot of mods installed but I have had lots for a while, even before current character. I have pretty much all of these in OMOD format save for the DLC's and I tried uninstalling mods going backwards from the most recently installed but it didn't help.

 

Oblivion.esm

SC_Drow Race.esm

Silgrad_Tower.esm

TR_OoT_Main.esm

Easy_Companion_Share.esm

Jog_X_Mod.esm

bookplacing.esm

HorseCombatMaster.esm

Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp

Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp

KT_CustomRaceFix.esp

ArianaTrudeaux.esp

Easy_Companion_Share_Fix.esp

Kill_Bill_Katanas.esp

OL_CustomPaintings.esp

Silgrad_Tower_Travel.esp

ArmoryLab.esp

Real Lava v1.2.esp

Oblivion Cats v0.2b.esp

za_bankmod.esp

ANB_Portable_Bedroll.esp

Servant of the Dawn.esp

DLCShiveringIsles.esp

DLCFrostcrag.esp

DLCOrrery.esp

DLCThievesDen.esp

DLCMehrunesRazor.esp

DLCHorseArmor.esp

DLCSpellTomes.esp

DLCVileLair.esp

AnvilBayExpansion.esp

DSPirateIsleBeta.esp

TR_Stirk_v0.9.esp

Mercenaries.esp

1.4TheAtlanteanSword2h.esp

Arrow Enchanter.esp

Arrow Enchanter Altar.esp

VA_UniqueKatana1.esp

Book Jackets Oblivion - BP.esp

Bag of Holding.esp

GuilesLightArena.esp

XTS-Merchant-V2.esp

Bigger_Soul_Gem.esp

ZelsHairfixRenshairV1_5.esp

KDWitchesFrock.esp

Lock Bash v99.91.esp

slayersword.esp

LN_soulreaver.esp

shamblingbooks.esp

mnp Nighteye Goggles.esp

Binoculars.esp

RealisticForceHigh.esp

MapMarkers.esp

Companion Mark and Recall.esp

Secret Mine v1.1.esp

GB_Oblivion Tournament.esp

WhiteGoldTower_Telepad.esp

Snow Dragon Temple v1.0.esp

cloudcity mod V1.1.esp

jadekatana.esp

PsychosDisrobeSpell.esp

COR-Episode1 Secret of Enourk.esp

Timekeeper_Advanced.esp

SanctumSanctorum.esp

Rise Of A Samurai.esp

PRPs_Bliss_House.esp

AoC Armoury of Conan.esp

Blackrock Mountain-TESSource.esp

Lair of the Hydra-TESSource.esp

Tower of the Lich King-TESSource.esp

Castle_Dunkerlore_V1.esp

JolardHome.esp

AkaviriKojima.esp

Slappy's Wigs v1.0.esp

Expanded Hotkeys and Spell Delete v1.0.esp

Expanded Hotkeys Brief Equip Message.esp

Silgrad Tower ArmoryLab fix-TESSource.esp

ClocksOfCyrodiil.esp

SaveWaterEdgeEng.esp

Horadric Cube.esp

Akaviri Imports Fixed esp-TESSource.esp

brumaguild.esp

Sonia.esp

BravilSeaDomes.esp

Akatosh Mount By Saiden Storm.esp

Auto Potion.esp

Cheydinhal Petshop.esp

Julianos Priory.esp

MaleBodyReplacer.esp

KeyChain.esp

Growlfs Hot Clothes.esp

SC_Drow Race Addon - Magic & Armor.esp

SC_Drow Race Addon - Growlf Armor.esp

Lost Paladins of the Divines.esp

gardening.esp

mythsandlegends.esp

actors_in_charge.esp

ActorsInMadness.esp

Seph's new animations.esp

CTAddPose_v_1.esp

StandingJOJO.esp

EFGAddPose.esp

BasicInstinct.esp

Slaughtershark.esp

sinHHHans' RidableSlaughterFish EV.esp

nazarianlibraryV3beta.esp

Artefacts of the Ancestors.esp

Jagnot- Imperial City Library V1.3.esp

eyja.esp

thievery.esp

bartholm.esp

symbolsofoffice.esp

PJs Spell Compendium - Spell Requirements.esp

MidasSpells.esp

Terran Vampires Beta.esp

Ruin.esp

TOTF.esp

Knights.esp

Unlimited Amulets and Rings - Shivering Isles.esp

Unlimited Wear.esp

Tail_Amulet_Converter.esp

Adonnays Elven Weaponry.esp

MoveQuestItems - OBSE.esp

GlenvarCastle.esp

Topal Island - Safe Water.esp

Toaster's Legendary Mastery.esp

Toaster's Legendary Skills.esp

TeMpO Skills & Encumbrance.esp

Kobu's Character Advancement System.esp

Deadly Reflex - Timed Block no other changes.esp

DeadlyReflex - Combat Moves.esp

[LlamaSprinter]

I would have suggested gettting a different patch (Lower version or different country). Try removing this beta patch you got. Apart from that I don't really know what to do. It could help if you sent in some screenshots.

[Vagrant0]

Dunno what you expect to happen with that list of mods. You have atleast 5 different pose mods in there, a few companions, some mods that I'm not familiar with, some mods which add more npcs and areas, and some mods which change things about the game. The problem isn't the patch (for once) its that you have either alot of conflicts, or you have a mod which has been sabotaged by someone and is designed to screw up your game.

 

Even though you might not want to reinstall, you're going to have to. Afterward, add ONLY a FEW mods to start with, like 5 to 8 which are newgame required, or change significant parts of the game. Start a new game using those mods, make sure they're all working, and make a few good saves in a neutral location (somewhere which isn't affected by mods to be installed). Then SLOWLY add more mods to your game making sure that they're working properly after you install them. Use OBMM to check for conflicts before making any new saves. This way you can know which mods are causing the issue, and can remove them then.

[g8rk0k]

I've already played the game to death twice so the only thing that keeps me going is pretty much continually adding new stuff, otherwise I'd end up losing interest and moving on. That list may seem insane but it wasn't all that much shorter than it is now before I started seeing stuff happen. I have only had 3 or so incidents where I had serious problems. One was a texture bug of some kind that made all the land around the colovian highlands look like it had been sprinkled with green glitter. Reinstalling last week eliminated that completely, thank heavens. I had put up with it almost the whole time I had been playing. Another thing was a pathgrid mess up that had people walking off the road and into walls and rocks and I'm pretty sure that it was just one mod and I changed the load order of he list and everything went back to normal.

 

What's happening now is annoying but it doesn't really destroy the game. I've seen a lot of weird things happen but I usually find ways to iron out the kinks. Some mods I have dumped when I felt bad about them.