Random CTDs, Stuttering and other questions

[DarkNarwhal16]

Hey, After 20+ hours of modding my heavily modded skyrim finally even runs. However it still has the occasional random CTD and stutters quite frequently. I was wondering if maybe there was a solution to these issues that I couldn't find. My bashed patch and skyproc patches are all up to date with my current modding setup. I have cleaned and made sure my load order is correct and sorted masters for files where it is necessary. I am using a NVidia 960 ti with 2 gb of vram incase that is important. My current load order is below. Thank you in advance for any suggestions you might have.

0 0 Skyrim.esm
1 1 Update.esm
2 2 Dawnguard.esm
3 3 HearthFires.esm
4 4 Dragonborn.esm
5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
6 6 Skyrim Project Optimization.esm
7 7 Falskaar.esm
8 8 Shadow of Morrowind.esm
9 9 SkyMoMod.esm
10 a Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm
11 b SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esm
12 c ClimatesOfTamriel.esm
13 d EFFCore.esm
14 e Gray Fox Cowl.esm
15 f notice board.esp
16 10 moonpath.esm
17 11 JSwords.esm
18 12 MolagBalsInferno.esm
19 13 HighResTexturePack01.esp
20 14 HighResTexturePack02.esp
21 15 HighResTexturePack03.esp
22 16 Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp
23 17 Cutting Room Floor.esp
24 18 Appropriately Attired Jarls Redux.esp
25 19 SPTConsistentOlderPeople.esp
26 1a RelightingSkyrim_Legendary.esp
27 1b RealisticRoomRental.esp
28 1c SkyRe_Main.esp
29 1d NARC-SkyTEST.esp
30 1e RaceMenu.esp
31 1f RaceMenuPlugin.esp
32 20 ViewableFactionRanks.esp
33 21 SkyFalls + SkyMills Falskaar.esp
34 22 Footprints.esp
35 23 83Willows_101BUGS_V4_LowerRes_HighSpawn.esp
36 24 Beards.esp
37 25 Brows.esp
38 26 Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp
39 27 ORM-Arvak.esp
40 28 Elemental Staves.esp
41 29 ELE_Legendary_Lite.esp
42 2a WetandCold.esp
43 2b BetterQuestObjectives.esp
44 2c Book Covers Skyrim.esp
45 2d Helgen Reborn.esp
46 2e SkyFalls + SkyMills + DG + DB.esp
47 2f Point The Way.esp
48 30 BirdsHFclean.esp
49 31 FarmhouseChimneys.esp
50 32 RealisticWaterTwo.esp
51 33 AOS.esp
52 34 Differently Ebony.esp
53 35 BFSEffects.esp
54 36 DawnguardRuneWeaponsFXSReplacer.esp
55 37 DeadlySpellImpacts.esp
56 38 WondersofWeather.esp
57 39 Soul Gems Differ.esp
58 3a BWS.esp
59 3b DragonShoutVoice.esp
60 3c TrueStorms.esp
61 3d randomthunder.esp
62 3e Auto Unequip Ammo.esp
63 3f ClamsDropPearls.esp
64 40 Nausicaa's Tweaker.esp
65 41 Dual Wield Parrying_SKSE.esp
66 42 Lock Overhaul.esp
67 43 SMDropLitTorch.esp
68 44 WM Trap Fixes.esp
69 45 FNIS.esp
70 46 SkyUI.esp
71 47 Dual Sheath Redux.esp
72 48 Moss Rocks - Legendary.esp
73 49 CoT-WeatherPatch.esp
74 4a ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-1.esp
75 4b ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp
76 4c ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp
77 4d TrueStorms-CoT-WeatherPatch.esp
78 4e Supreme Storms - Cot Version.esp
79 4f CoT-WeatherPatch_DB.esp
80 50 CoT-WeatherPatch_SupStorms.esp
81 51 CoT-WeatherPatch_NL3.esp
82 52 TrueStorms-SupremeStorms-CoT.esp
83 53 mintylightningmod.esp
84 54 MintyLightningMod_COT_Patch.esp
85 55 fFastTravelSpeedMult_4.esp
86 56 VioLens.esp
87 57 SkyTweak.esp
88 58 Elemental_Dragons.esp
89 59 SkyRe_Plugin_BerserkBlackSwordsmanArmor.esp
90 5a 3DNPC.esp
91 5b Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
92 5c Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
93 5d Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp
94 5e Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp
95 5f Weapons & Armor_TrueOrcish&DaedricWeapons.esp
96 60 Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp
97 61 Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp
98 62 LostGrimoire.esp
99 63 Wintermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp
Weapons & Armor_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.esp
100 64 Animated Weapon Enchants.esp
101 65 aMidianBorn_ContentAddon.esp
102 66 Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp
103 67 SkyrimCoinReplacerRedux.esp
Immersive Citizens - OCS patch.esp
104 68 ExpandedSnowSystems-CoT.esp
105 69 CoT-WeatherPatch_ESS.esp
106 6a Immersive Weapons.esp
107 6b Wildcat - Combat of Skyrim.esp
108 6c dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
109 6d ExplosiveBoltsVisualized.esp
110 6e Thunderchild - Epic Shout Package.esp
111 6f Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp
112 70 SoS - The Dungeons.esp
113 71 MoonAndStar_MAS.esp
114 72 AMB Glass Variants Lore.esp
115 73 ADS.esp
116 74 hearthfireextended.esp
117 75 TradeBarter.esp
118 76 Paralysis.esp
119 77 SMIM-DragonbornTernFix.esp
120 78 SMIM-FurnitureChestSnowFix.esp
121 79 SMIM-DungeonsCliffsIceSkirts.esp
122 7a Thieves Guild Requirements.esp
123 7b IHSS.esp
124 7c Better Stealth AI for Followers.esp
125 7d NotSoFast-MainQuest.esp
126 7e BetterQuestObjectives-CRFPatch.esp
127 7f dD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp
128 80 aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp
129 81 imp_helm_legend.esp
130 82 Mage Outfit Texture Overhaul.esp
131 83 dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp
132 84 Radiant and Unique Potions Poisons and Booze.esp
133 85 Improved Combat Sounds v2.2.esp
134 86 BetterQuestObjectives-AMBSkyforgePatch.esp
135 87 BFT Ships and Carriages.esp
136 88 TheChoiceIsYours.esp
137 89 Immersive Citizens - RRR patch.esp
138 8a Inconsequential NPCs.esp
139 8b SkyrimSewers.esp
140 8c Beautiful Cities.esp
141 8d RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp
142 8e SFO - Dragonborn.esp
143 8f Cloaks.esp
144 90 Dead Body Collision.esp
145 91 SMIM-FarmhouseFlickeringFix.esp
146 92 Long lost smelters by Hyralux.esp
147 93 moonpath_questdata.esp
148 94 WindPath.esp
149 95 Bring Out Your Dead - Legendary Edition.esp
150 96 WhiterunExterior.esp
151 97 Immersive Patrols II.esp
152 98 Immersive Horses.esp
153 99 SkyrimImprovedPuddles.esp
154 9a Convenient Horses.esp
155 9b SolitudeExterior.esp
156 9c VendorSaleDelay-Gone.esp
157 9d Craftable Horse Barding.esp
158 9e SMIM-ShackRoofFixes.esp
159 9f EFFDialogue.esp
160 a0 arnima.esp
161 a1 Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp
162 a2 SkyRe_StandingStones.esp
163 a3 Invisibility Eyes Fix.esp
164 a4 FarmhouseChimneysFalskaar.esp
165 a5 RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Falskaar.esp
166 a6 RealisticWaterTwo - Falskaar.esp
167 a7 DungeonQuestAwareness.esp
168 a8 SkyRe_Races.esp
169 a9 ForgottenCity.esp
170 aa Darkend.esp
171 ab SMIM-RiftenDocksRopesObjectFix.esp
172 ac TimingIsEverything.esp
173 ad Immersive Citizens - MTE patch.esp
174 ae SMIM-ShackRoofFixesDragonborn.esp
175 af Immersive Citizens - CRF patch.esp
176 b0 The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp
177 b1 PilgrimsDelight.esp
178 b2 Magic of the Magna-Ge.esp
179 b3 Dwemertech - Magic of the Dwarves.esp
180 b4 SkyRe_Plugin_NicoroshiCreations_1.1.esp
181 b5 Windhelm Lighthouse.esp
182 b6 MzarkWonders.esp
183 b7 EmbersHD.esp
184 b8 summersetisles.esp
185 b9 BlockSparkles.esp
186 ba Gildergreen Regrown.esp
187 bb BetterQuestObjectives-PaarDilemmaPatch.esp
188 bc Imperious - Races of Skyrim.esp
189 bd SameWalkRunSpeeds.esp
190 be Violent_Alduin_Normal.esp
191 bf notice board - open cities patch.esp
192 c0 notice board - dragonborn patch.esp
193 c1 ForgottenMagic_Redone.esp
194 c2 Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp
195 c3 Chesko_Step418_SN.esp
196 c4 HighHrothgarWindowGlow.esp
197 c5 SkyRe_Plugin_BowofIorveth_1.2.esp
198 c6 SkyRe_Plugin_DreadKnightWeaponSet_0.99.esp
199 c7 Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp
200 c8 Ordinator - Dragonborn Respec.esp
201 c9 Apocalypse - Dragonborn Staff Crafting.esp
202 ca Apocalypse - Ordinator Compatibility Patch.esp
203 cb SkyRe_Plugin_DaggerCraft_1.3.esp
204 cc SkyRe_Plugin_BetterBows_1.4.1.esp
205 cd Immersive Horses - Hearthfire Patch.esp
206 ce Chesko_WearableLantern.esp
207 cf Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp
208 d0 UIExtensions.esp
GQJ_DG_vampireamuletfix.esp
Traps Make Noise.esp
DesyncBirdsOfPrey.esp
209 d1 NonEssentialChildren.esp
210 d2 BetterQuestObjectives-NECPatch.esp
SkyRe_SIC Crossbowfix.esp
211 d3 STEP Extended Patch.esp
212 d4 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
213 d5 Bashed Patch, 0.esp
214 d6 ASIS-Dependency.esp
215 d7 ReProccer.esp
216 d8 Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp
217 d9 ASIS.esp

 

[DarkNarwhal16]

P.S. I know I have a ton of mods. Also anything that would improve my frame rate would help and I was wondering if my gpu is good enough to run open cities with my current mods and still maintain >50 fps

[Darkstyler35]

Hello,

• Struttering troubleshooting, random CTDs troubleshooting.
• Make sure you're using the good mods >> Dangerous mods list.
• Ensure the mod combination you're using have the required patches and that your mods are correctly installed following the author recommandations.
• CTDs troubleshooting page on Reddit for your other CTDs, depending on what's happening in game, choose the subsections that describe the best your problem.

Here is a list of things that may help stabilizing your game :

/// Load order / mods conflicts :

• Use L.O.O.T once and click on the "sort plugins buttons".
• Create a wryebash patch including leveled lists.
• Create a merged patch with Tesedit excluding leveled lists. May help in cunjonction with the debugging tutorial link in the random CTDs troubleshhooting / plugin conflicts. See here.

/// Cleaning and correcting potential bugs :

• Clean your master files to eliminate potential problems : Gopher's videos cleaning your masterfiles on the Nexus Tesedit page.
  Start Tes5edit, simply untick everything, (right-click/select none) and add only a tick to the esm/esp you want to check + update.esm, Tesedit knows what to do and will load all the dependencies automatically.
  - Begin with loading only Skyrim + update, ITM / UDR + save ctrl +s and close.
  - Then load Skyrim + update + Dawnguard, ITM / UDR + ctrl +s and close.
  - Then load Skyrim + update + Hearthfire, ITM / UDR + ctrl +s and close.
  - Then load Skyrim + update + Dragonborn, ITM / UDR + ctrl +s and close.
• The method above can be used to clean mods. LOOT should tell you which plugin you should clean. You may also do a check erros on your plugins.

/// Settings / memory :

• Have you installed the skse patch ? >> memory blocks log.
• Backup your ini files and delete the files. Skyrim.ini / SkyrimCustom.ini / SkyrimPrefs.ini found in C:\Users\Utilisateur\Documents\My Games\Skyrim then use your vanilla launcher to autodetect and use best settings for your computer.

/// Save game :

• Don't uninstall mods at mid-game, there are no clean save in Skyrim but using save script cleaner can help removing orphan scripts.

/// Meshes healer :

• Read here, this is potentially a cause of CTD that you can resolve by following the mod procedure on this page.

/// Useful informations :

• STEP troubleshooting page.
• Verify gamecache.
• Ensure your skyrim installation is healthy = Make skyrim vanilla again.

Hope this helps.

[DarkNarwhal16]

Thank you for your reply. I was able to fix multiple issues with my ini file. However, while I was creating a merged patch in tes5edit it would not allow to edit the plugins and gave me this dialogue:

[00:56] Background Loader: [hearthfireextended.esp] Building reference info.

[00:56] Background Loader: Parent of a NVNM is not identified as a CELL
[00:56] Background Loader: Fatal: <EAssertionFailed: Assertion failure

is there any known fix to this? in the meantime I will be disable hearthfire extended and all its children with I make a merged patch then will renable them for my merged patch and final load order

edit: I believe this is due to my sorted load order of hearthfire extended

Edited August 3, 2016 by DarkNarwhal16

[Darkstyler35]

You're welcome.

Your mod may have a problem that Tes5edit may not be able to resolve automatically. You may use a manual method to make this plugin compatible, either doing the changes in the file itself, either within a patch. See here.

[DarkNarwhal16]

I actually just reinstalled it and the error appears to have been resolved and I have now created a merged patch however there are several messages at the bottom that simply read Error: Could not be resolved with no other info is there anyway for me to know what is causing the error. Thanks again

[Darkstyler35]

Sure, see here if you find something interresting.

[DarkNarwhal16]

Thank you I plan to try to resolve the errors sometime but for now I'm tired of modding and when I saw the amount of work before me when I tried to resolve the errors I decided I would play the game and see if it had a major inpact on my stability. If it does I will fix it promptly if it does not I will fix it when I feel like modding some more

[Darkstyler35]

No problemo, good luck with your game.