DEATH

[Jopo1980]

Yes, I know about the singularity which spawned the Big Bang, but what was outside of that, surrounding the singularity? I think of it as a big suprauniversal void in which bubbles of different universes float. There has to be something outside the universe, a void or something.

[marharth]

Then the question comes up of where did that stuff come from? It ends up being a never ending cycle.

[Nintii]

This topic is fraught with religions connotations, and prolly isn't going to last long.........

 

I have to agree with this ...

 

Death is death, a cessation of life ... unless you approach it from a spiritual faith standpoint, then it becomes much wider in it's scope.

 

Beyond your faith you have nothing, there is NO EVIDENCE ONLY SPECULATION.

[CasperTheLich]

Balagor was talking about perspective if i understood him correctly. This ties into quantum mechanics. (to paraphrase: the world exists as we see it, when we see it. when we stop looking at it does it change or vanish? Then revert back when we look again?) What is the universe to you? What was it before you were born?

 

Nothingness (from a person’s own vantage point)---------Birth (existence from the same perspective)----------death (nothingness). It’s circular.

 

Hmm… I’m not doing a good job of explaining this am i? i'll stop before i start confusing people.

Edited November 29, 2011 by Invisible Man

[Illuna]

I view Death as Inevitable event that will eventually happen regardless of scientific or spiritual progress. For me Death is state of non existence. So you are not present anywhere in any form, cannot interract, think, view, or even realise your own existence.

I think there is possibility for "cure" to natural Death and maby even non natural events such as car crash, bullet to brain, fires... etc.. im like 90% sure that someone will figure out how to prolong life for 100-200 years atleast for ppl in really cheap mater in next 30-40 years. However that dose not conguer Death. Excample: even if you have Robotic body (Ghost in Machine) that can withstand really harsh abuse aslong as you are present (your body) close to Star there is possibility of supernova /blackhole and said event would destroy you. or any other event that makes your Immortal body die.

Tho i personally would view upload of brain or any sort like that as Death aswell, cos if you can upload your (essence) it can be multiplyed that you are no longer you since you exist in multiple places in same time. In my opinion person can Live in single form in single place at any given time, the moment when there apears to be more copies of your or possibilitys of copies of you original you would be dead. and new you would be born. btw this also touches on any teleportation technologies and any other technologies that would destroy you and rebuild exact copy of you(unless said copy would use exact same building material that you would be made of(excample: Machine breaks you to basic cells --> you become jar of goo--- > machine uses said cells to rebuild you back together and evry cell is used and made exact copy --> you are back alive.

 

I think i broke few braincells when i wrote this.... :wallbash:

[Jopo1980]

So in the case of a mind upload it is a question of are you really there? The uploaded personality may have all the traits that you have, speak identically to you and have all your memories, but does it have the consciousness and awareness of being you or is that part of your "essence" or "soul" already gone to some other plane of existence or afterlife when you die? I don´t know whether there is an afterlife or not, but I hope that there is, because disappearing into nothingness sounds like such a waste. If we disappear at death, then all our memories, everything we have learned and experienced, everything we are is lost forever and it really seems to me like being horribly inefficient and wasteful. So I hope there is some form of existence beyond death, although it would appear that whatever it is, it means for example that we cannot be in contact with those on this world, unless you believe in ghosts etc.

 

Near-Death experiences are an interesting field of research. Some who have been clinically dead for some time report having clearly conscious experiences (sometimes even being more clearly conscious than normally) during their periods of clinical death. There are also similarities in the reported experiences across cultural borders. I do not believe that these experiences are mere hallucinations caused by hypoxia in the brain as those undergoing such experiences have been dead and their brains have shut down making complex hallucinations impossible.

 

One example of such an experience was a woman who underwent surgery in which her heart was intentionally stopped. She reported having seen her body from outside and later described accurately a surgical tool she had never before seen and reported a conversation between the surgery team members. She also reported some otherworldly experiences, such as seeing beings of light etc., but as a whole her experience was remarkable as she was under general anesthesia or clinically dead during the reported experience.

Researchers have recorded huge amounts of similar experiences from across the globe and they share similarities. We cannot know the full significance of this yet, but perhaps there is something beyond the veil of death, at least hopefully.

[draconix]

the most exact answer I could find on the list regarding "what is Death" was, "The opposite of life".

I chose this answer because it is the simplest and yet conveys so much.

In the eternity that preceded your birth, do you remember it? No? That's what death is like. It is the opposite of life.

[Jopo1980]

Everyone is saying that they don´t fear death. Is that an honest answer or just bravado? When you lie on your deathbed, will you be scared? I voted I don´t know.

[Balagor]

Everyone is saying that they don´t fear death. Is that an honest answer or just bravado? When you lie on your deathbed, will you be scared? I voted I don´t know.

 

I was there when my farther in law died. I sat on his bed. He could feel it coming. I told him; "See you next wednesday" He said: "That will be in the cementary, then"

He showed no fear. I am sure he had no fear, only contentment.

[Werne]

Everyone is saying that they don´t fear death. Is that an honest answer or just bravado?

 

I voted I don't fear death, I said I don't fear death and I don't fear death.

 

When you lie on your deathbed, will you be scared? I voted I don't know.

 

Been there, done that. In Afghanistan I was laying in a pool of my own blood after I was shot, and all I could feel was sadness. I felt sad because I imagined my parents reaction when they hear they lost their son and the reaction of my girlfriend when she hears I'm dead. When you are about to die you forget about fear and pain and all you can focus on is what you are going to leave behind, what you have done in your life and what you could have done. I wasn't afraid, there is no point of being afraid, it won't change a thing, you're still going to die. You voted "I don't know" because you probably never saw a person dying, and you probably never had a near-death experience.