CTD During Intro

[Keen7981]

Good evening everyone who reads this,

 

I could use some help tracking down a CTD. When playing the opening mission my game silently CTD's about a minute after I gain control of my character, unless I am in a menu (lockpcking, looting, etc), then it waits till I leave the menu to crash. This happens regardless of whether I am playing the vanilla Helgen intro or Alternate Start. According to Skyrim Performance Monitor, the game ran for 2 minutes and 6 seconds before crashing on my last attempt.

 

I am playing on an Intel Core i5-3570 at 3.4 GHz with 16 GB of system ram. My video card is an Nvidia GeForce GTX 770 with 4 GB of VRAM. The OS is Windows 7 x64.

 

Here is my load order from LOOT:

 

 

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0 0 Skyrim.esm
1 1 Update.esm
2 2 Dawnguard.esm
3 3 HearthFires.esm
4 4 Dragonborn.esm
5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
6 6 Falskaar.esm
7 7 RSkyrimChildren.esm
8 8 UnlimitedBookshelves.esp
9 9 Vivid Landscapes.esp
10 a RelightingSkyrim-NoScripts.esp
11 b Rigmor.esp
12 c immersive roads.esp
13 d SkyFalls + SkyMills Falskaar.esp
14 e RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Falskaar.esp
15 f Skyrim Particle Patch for ENB - Flame Atronach Fix.esp
16 10 Natural Lighting Vivid Atmospherics.esp
17 11 WondersofWeather.esp
18 12 mintylightningmod.esp
19 13 JKs Skyrim.esp
20 14 WetandCold.esp
21 15 WetandCold - Ashes.esp
22 16 FCO - Follower Commentary Overhaul.esp
23 17 Headtracking.esp
24 18 AMB Glass Variants Lore.esp
25 19 Differently Ebony.esp
26 1a ELE_S_Lite.esp
27 1b RelightingSkyrim_DB.esp
28 1c Book Covers Skyrim.esp
29 1d Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
30 1e Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
31 1f Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp
32 20 Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp
33 21 Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp
Weapons & Armor_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.esp
34 22 Immersive Weapons.esp
35 23 WeaponsArmorFixes_ImmersiveWeapons_Patch.esp
36 24 aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp
CalienteVanillaArmorTweaks.esp
37 25 Footprints.esp
38 26 dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
39 27 dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp
40 28 SkyFalls + SkyMills + DG + DB.esp
41 29 RealisticWaterTwo.esp
42 2a RelightingSkyrim_DG.esp
43 2b ELE_DG_Lite.esp
44 2c RealisticWaterTwo - Falskaar.esp
45 2d Watercolor_for_ENB_RWT.esp
46 2e ELE_DB_Lite.esp
47 2f ELE_Fs_Lite.esp
48 30 Auto Unequip Ammo.esp
49 31 iHUD.esp
50 32 RaceMenu.esp
51 33 RaceMenuPlugin.esp
52 34 SkyUI.esp
53 35 SPTDiverseGuardsSkyrim.esp
54 36 Beards.esp
sandboxcylinderheight.esp
55 37 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Reduced.esp
56 38 kuerteeSimpleMultipleFollowers.esp
57 39 kuerteeSimpleMultipleFollowers MCM.esp
58 3a BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp
59 3b HearthfireMoveKidsfix.esp
60 3c Dr_Bandolier.esp
61 3d 10 extra effect.esp
62 3e Improved Combat Sounds v2.2.esp
63 3f SkyHavenTempleEnhanced.esp
64 40 Birdsofskyrim.esp
65 41 RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp
66 42 EMCompViljaSkyrim.esp
67 43 LocalizedGuildJobs.esp
68 44 Inigo.esp
69 45 Run For Your Lives.esp
70 46 EMViljaInSolstheimAddOn.esp
71 47 Cloaks.esp
72 48 SMIM-Merged-All.esp
73 49 fallentreebridges.esp
74 4a RelightingSkyrim_HF.esp
75 4b ELE_HF_Lite.esp
76 4c buildablehouse.esp
77 4d Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp
78 4e Verdant - A Skyrim Grass Plugin.esp
79 4f SFO - Dragonborn.esp
80 50 AesirArmor.esp
81 51 BlackSacramentDBReplacer.esp
82 52 RSChildren_CompleteUSKP.esp
83 53 PalistovSpinningArrows_CloserQuiversLongerArrows.esp
84 54 Dovahkiin Mercenary Armor and Weapons CBBE.esp
85 55 IceBreaker's Improved Reverb v0.025.esp
86 56 ArmorOfIntrigue.esp
87 57 1nivWICCloaksNoGuards.esp
88 58 1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch-NoGuards.esp
89 59 Blaze Of Eventide.esp
90 5a Convenient Horses.esp
91 5b Convenient Horses - Faster Sprint.esp
92 5c Convenient Horses - Unique Frost.esp
93 5d 360WalkandRunPlus-RunBackwardSpeedAdjust.esp
94 5e XPMSE.esp
95 5f FNIS.esp
96 60 The Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp
97 61 SkaalHeavyArmor.esp
98 62 Guild Duelist Armor.esp
99 63 Wandererarmor.esp
100 64 WarmongerArmory_Vanilla.esp
101 65 WarmongerArmory_DLC.esp
102 66 Smithing Perks Overhaul_Remade.esp
103 67 Patch - Falskaar - RS kids.esp
104 68 SkaalKidAetaCoat.esp
105 69 Better Vampires.esp
106 6a Predator Vision.esp
107 6b Vampirelordroyal.esp
108 6c When Vampires Attack.esp
109 6d JoOsSkyrimKnightlyArmory.esp
110 6e summersetisles.esp
111 6f BlackSacramentArmor.esp
112 70 My Home Is Your Home.esp
113 71 Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp
114 72 WhiterunExterior.esp
115 73 Inquisitor Set.esp
116 74 JoOsSkyrimKnightlyArmoryCheat.esp
117 75 BVandRB_Formlist.esp
118 76 VL No AoE Drain.esp
119 77 Lost Art of the Blacksmith.esp
120 78 NoRadialBlur.esp
121 79 DragonCarvedArmorSet.esp
122 7a OpenFaceGuardHelmets.esp
123 7b HighHrothgarWindowGlow.esp
DesyncBirdsOfPrey.esp
124 7c SolitudeExterior.esp
125 7d Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
126 7e TES5Merged.esp
127 7f Bashed Patch, Skyrim.esp
DynDOLOD.esp

 

 

According to the memory blocks log and Skyrim Performance Monitor everything seems to be within acceptable parameters. I am unable to get a papyrus log for reasons beyond my comprehension at the moment. Oh and it should be noted that this is a clean install and I have deleted all my saved games from previous installs.

 

Any help anyone is able to provide would be greatly appreciated.

 

-Keen7981

[Darkstyler35]

Hello,

• While using alternate start, you may try a selective loading by decreasing your loading mods by 50% the first time, then depending on if it keep crashing or not, either you decrease the loading mods by chunk of 10-20 or increase them to find the mod that is causing this.
• I see you're using Rigmor of Bruma, there's a known incompatibility with this mod and Immersives armors that needs special attention and I'm wondering if it would be the same with immersive weapons. Solution : install or enable only RoB after IW is configured.
• CTD at the start of the game troubleshoot.
• Random CTDs troubleshoot.
• Make sure you're using the good mods >> Dangerous mods list.
• Install crash fixes with the UseOSAllocators=1 rather than skse.ini memory patch.
• You may install ENBOOST, see /// Settings / memory
• Verify gamecache.
• CTDs troubleshooting page on Reddit. depending on what's happening in game, choose the subsections that describe the best your problem.

Here is a list of things that may help stabilizing your game if not already been done. :

/// Cleaning and correcting potential bugs :

• Clean your master files to eliminate potential problems : Gopher's videos cleaning your masterfiles on the Nexus Tesedit page. You may use this updated guide to clean your masters. It contains the same automated cleaning procedure as Gopher explains in his video + repeating once for Dawnguard.esm + some selective manual cleaning.
• The method above can be used to clean mods. LOOT should tell you which plugin you should clean. You may also do a check errors.

/// Load order / mods conflicts :

• Use L.O.O.T once and click on the "sort plugins buttons".
• Create a wryebash patch including leveled lists.
• Create a merged patch with Tesedit excluding leveled lists
• How things work in Tes5edit : load order / conflict looser - winner / Forwarding / adding as a master. More specifically, you may create a manual patch between two or more mods.

/// Settings / memory :

• Ensure you're not using redundant memory patches, such as SSME, skse.ini; crash fixes with the UseOSAllocators=1 enabled, or safety load. Preferably, use crash fixes or skse memory patch.
• Memory blocks log will help to refine memory settings.
• Backup your ini files and delete the files. Skyrim.ini / SkyrimCustom.ini / SkyrimPrefs.ini found in C:\Users\User\Documents\My Games\Skyrim then use your vanilla launcher to autodetect and use best settings for your computer.
• STEP INI tweaking wiki.
• You may install ENBOOST >> ENB graphics / ENB haxx.

/// Save game :

• Don't uninstall mods at mid-game, there are no clean save in Skyrim but using save script cleaner can help removing orphan scripts.
• New SkyrimTools, (corrupt saves topic).

/// Meshes healer :

• Read here, this is potentially a cause of CTD that you can resolve by following the mod procedure on this page.

/// Useful informations :

• Skyrim requirements wiki.
• Skse installation : skse on steam or Manual install. (SKSE, memory and skse.ini). SKSE logs are here : C:\Users\User\Documents\My Games\Skyrim\SKSE. SKSE troubleshooting guide.
• Skyrim performance monitor.
• STEP troubleshooting page.
• Ensure your skyrim installation is healthy = Make skyrim vanilla again.
• an efficient guide to build your game : STEP.
• Make sure you're using the latest USLEEP instead of the obsolete unofficial patches. If some of your old mods require them, you may use the USLEEP swap masters.
• Crashdump analysis.
• Papyrus log is a scripts log only and doesn't cover anything else, not a crash log. Interpreting Papyrus Log Errors, thanks to Arthmoor.
• Need a tool to manage GPU fan speed that works with ENB ? You may try Afterburner. (tested)

Hope this helps.

[Keen7981]

Thank you for the prompt reply darstyler. I tried your suggestions switching to Crash Fixes and disabling Rigmor of Bruma until Immersive Weapons and Immersive Armors are configured and it seems to be working. I will play longer (going to try the vanilla intro) and see how it goes, but it is looking good. Thank you for your help.

[Darkstyler35]

You're welcome, happy gaming :)