ResidentWeevil2077 Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 :closedeyes: I know - we've all had it during our years of formal education, and I'm pretty positive that almost EVERYONE here will agree with me that HOMEWORK is a device that teachers use to torture their students. Believe me, I've had many a sleepless night staying up to get in that last friggin' paragraph in my g**damn essay about whatever the hell it was the teacher assigned :wallbash: BUT, is it really worth the time and effort to put in countless hours trying to achieve grades that are barely passing the 70, or 60, or even 50% mark? Think hard about what your answer will be, because I'll tell you right now, there is a growing consensus amongst parents, students (obviously :rolleyes: ), and quite a few teachers, that homework really doesn't achieve much in the way of "good" education. For instance, do you really remember anything about what the f**k you wrote about in high school English class (I'm only 22, but I sure as hell don't remember ANYTHING from high school AT ALL, and I'm considered to be quite intelligent by many of my peers and former classmates I'm still friends with). Now, you may think that yes, sometimes (and that's SOMETIMES) homework can help in the long run. But look at it this way - is it worth feeling stressed out and frickin' tired all day long, trying to stay awake long enough so that you can hear the teacher (who also happens to be a d**chebag) give out bulls**t assignments that you may very well fail (and I guarantee that you will), and waste time that could have been spent doing enjoyable things during the times that you really should be relaxing? All in all, I disagree with the way young people (and our collective future) are being taught, which isn't very efficient at all. It simply does not allow young people to be creative enough and be individuals who can contribute to their communities, however they choose to. AND, it seems the what has been referred to as "common sense" isn't so common as it used to, since plenty of people who have completed their formal education are as dumb as hell (even in Canada - no offence to my American friends, but Canadians do seem to be smarter than many Americans, even though that may not even be true). Forgive and correct me if I have this whole thing bass ackwards, I just wanted to bring the topic to light. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninja_lord666 Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 Science: no; English: no; History: no; Math: yes.For the first three subject, it's just pointless busywork. Case it point, my Chemistry teacher this ear doesn't give out any homework. Period. Everyone still knows everything he's teaching us about chemistry. However, in math, I see the point. The homework acts as training for the test, and without it, You won't know how to do the equations. I don't know about you, but when my math teacher says how to do a certain type of problem, I don't instantly remember it the first time. Math, especially at higher levels, is quite confusing.I'd type more, but I have to get to school. :D I'll continue when I get home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sovietlukmanov Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 Though I prefer to have ABSOLUTELY NO HOMEWORK, I can see the need to have homework in math, because math is not about memmorizing, it's about understanding (just like other subjects) and math requires practice. Though I nearly always forget about my homework... :whistling: Teacher: Alright, has everybody submitted their homework? Me (thinking to myself): S***! What homework?! :wallbash: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddycashmercury Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 I am in high school, but have always considered homework unecessary. I am homeschooled, though, so I suppose one might say all my work is homework :biggrin: In case you are wondering, we are not the kind of homeschooling family that says, "Oh yes, we homeschool." but doesn't actually do anything. I have also attended public school, and find it much easier than home-schooling, although much more boring. I have never needed homework to do well, but some of my friends have and do. Anyway, I think it (homework) should be optional for everyone at the beginning of the year, but if a student is repeatedly failing, homework could be helpful, and should then be required for the academically-challenged students. If they improve, well I suppose they should still be doing it, if it is working for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTerminator2004 Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 I think some types of homework, for some types of subject, are useful. I completely agree with Ninja about the maths, it does really help. (I went from a D at GCSE to a B (the highest grade you could get on the paper I was doing) simply by getting extra homework from my teacher, doing it, and then going over what I didn't understand. Also, for other subjects, some kinds of homework can be useful. My A-level history class had to get into groups, go home, and make a seminar, which we would have to be presented in class. The topic my group chose was Henrician government (as we were studying Henry VII), and since that, I have been able to remember all the details of Henrician government, and, it was actually quite enjoyable to do, as well. So, not all homework is bad, and I expect similar things could be done for English, Science, whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sovietlukmanov Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 Anyway, I think it (homework) should be optional for everyone at the beginning of the year, but if a student is repeatedly failing, homework could be helpful, and should then be required for the academically-challenged students. If they improve, well I suppose they should still be doing it, if it is working for them. I would VERY MUCH like it, if only things are as we'd like it to be. It could also give some incentive to actually do the work at school to expect free time at home. Well, I'd pretty much hope so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ResidentWeevil2077 Posted January 16, 2008 Author Share Posted January 16, 2008 I forgot to mention that the only exception is mathematics (especially Pure Math 30 and Math 31) - since math does require extra memorization (something I happen to be quite bad at :( ) because of its complexity at higher levels of study, I copletely understand why one would be given math homework. Of course, I "can't remember" ( ;) ) half the things I was supposed to have studied in math. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninja_lord666 Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 Personally, I think school should give you homework, but not have it affect your grade at all. If you don't do it, and, subsequently get low grades on a test, that's your own fault. If you know you aren't going to do very well, that's what the homework is for. So, in essence, it's not really homework; it's a study tool. Because tests are really what matters. The goal of going to school is to be more knowledgeable, and the best way to make sure the teachers are doing their job is tests. Homework, as I said, is pointless busywork. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ResidentWeevil2077 Posted January 16, 2008 Author Share Posted January 16, 2008 I absolutely agree with you Ninja - I think that probably what most school boards should do. That and to delay what time school starts by about 1-1.5 hours ('cause getting up at anywhere from 5-7AM doesn't really help students at all). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninja_lord666 Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 Studies show that, in teens, melatonin doesn't stop being produced until about 8:30, so school really shouldn't start until about 9. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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