ninja_lord666 Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 I had never thought of that, thank you! :thanks: Wouldn't life be easier if there was a universal language, like in all the futuristic science fiction movies? Not suggesting English specifically, just a thought.Although it is confusing to learn, English has the most diverse and largest vocabulary. As such, English can express more finitely specific emotions, desires, or demands making it the most complex language and the best suited for almost every aspect of communication. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xeniorn Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 Now when you mention it, my vision of ideal language system would be so that every person on the planet is at least bilingual. The first language would be a new, fabricated, very functional international language, and the second one would be the native language of the area. There are two reasons why I wouldn't agree to complete adoption of the new language as the one and only one. First one is the fact that the more languages you speak, the better you can understand the world. This is because it is very hard for people to think averbally, not using words, hence the reason why people name everything in the first place, also Inuit people (the Eskimos) have need for many different words to represent different types of snow. They have 30 or so words for snow only! Obviously people living in Africa or in most places have absolutely need for that, yet for Inuits it's non-disposable. The reason number two is literature. There is a vast wealth of literal wealth, poems, novels, etc. Translation can only be accurate in some elements, especially with poetry. You can focus on holding to the rhythm and you'll surely have to sacrifice melodiousness or the very contents. But the idea of the additional, universal language is something I would very much like to live to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddycashmercury Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 Okay, seems to me we're getting a bit off topic. Should someone start a new thread for this? As far as I can tell, there is at least some interest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninja_lord666 Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 Okay, seems to me we're getting a bit off topic. Should someone start a new thread for this? As far as I can tell, there is at least some interest.I don't see why not, the original topic has died, and why waste space making a new topic? What's wrong with a tangent here or there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddycashmercury Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 I don't see why not, the original topic has died, and why waste space making a new topic? What's wrong with a tangent here or there? Okay, I must cede to your superior intellect. On a side note, how do you make the quote heading look like this- QUOTE(freddycashmercury @ Jan 21 2008, 06:44 PM)- I can't figure it out. (still a noob :biggrin: ) The first language would be a new, fabricated, very functional international language, and the second one would be the native language of the area. Interesting idea, but who would create the language, and would it be totally new words like newrinkongy, or a composite of several languages? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninja_lord666 Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 Okay, I must cede to your superior intellect. On a side note, how do you make the quote heading look like this- QUOTE(freddycashmercury @ Jan 21 2008, 06:44 PM)- I can't figure it out. (still a noob :biggrin: )If you look on the posts, in the bottom right corner, you'll see a series of buttons. The one furthest to the right says 'reply'. Hit that.The first language would be a new, fabricated, very functional international language, and the second one would be the native language of the area.Interesting idea, but who would create the language, and would it be totally new words like newrinkongy, or a composite of several languages?Who would create it? We're not fortune tellers here...I highly doubt it'd be completely new words. it's most likely be a modified version of English, which is, in itself, a composite of several other languages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddycashmercury Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 Okay, I must cede to your superior intellect. On a side note, how do you make the quote heading look like this- QUOTE(freddycashmercury @ Jan 21 2008, 06:44 PM)- I can't figure it out. (still a noob :biggrin: )If you look on the posts, in the bottom right corner, you'll see a series of buttons. The one furthest to the right says 'reply'. Hit that.The first language would be a new, fabricated, very functional international language, and the second one would be the native language of the area.Interesting idea, but who would create the language, and would it be totally new words like newrinkongy, or a composite of several languages?Who would create it? We're not fortune tellers here...I highly doubt it'd be completely new words. it's most likely be a modified version of English, which is, in itself, a composite of several other languages.Thanks for the tip! About the English: Not really anything to add, except thanks for the reminder about it (English) already being a composite of languages. I hope a universal language is created, but it would require a huge amount of international cooperation. With the current state of world affairs, I doubt it will come anytime soon. Well, one can dream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xeniorn Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 It's not something one man would do. If such a language ever comes to be, it will have been created by a large number of linguistics experts, as it is crucial for it to be as simple, as easy to use as it can, with simplest possible grammar that simultaneously doesn't hinder the speaker in expressing complex thoughts. English is, as ninja will surely agree, very successful at that task. The main problem about English (that I can think of at the moment, it's very late here :D) is the pronunciation and spelling, which is unnecessarily complex and is such due to historical reasons, it started that way and you can't really change the way a language is written. The hypothetical super-language would have to have the English's grammatical and syntax simplicity (because English is the best language there is when you look at grammar and syntax only), but should be phonetic, in the pronunciation=script manner. I believe most of you are aware that such languages have been fabricated before and that most successful such language is Esperanto (if you don't know about it just follow the link to Wikipedia). It originates from many languages, but the problem is the fact that practically all work was done by a single man. No single man can do the job of universal language fabrication so well that it pushes out English. (as English is almost impossible to beat because of the fact that many high ranking forces use English and it has already been incorporated into most parts of the world and human practice.) Conclusively, the "Language" would surely have to look up to English in concerning many areas but, IMHO, shouldn't rely on its vocabulary, script and pronunciation. Vocabulary of English is overly rich to be practical for this application. Of course the greatest barrier and obstacle that prevents Language from coming to be is, as I see it, politics, special interests not beneficial to the humankind as a whole but rather to some individual nations - although that's also too broad as the root of the whole problem can almost exclusively be found in a few individuals - power hungry, greedy and narrow minded, with a distorted view of the world. Too bad that, by some nature's strange perversion, such people are found charismatic by the mankind. If only scientists could run the world. :D Sorry for drifting away. :) Feel free to ignore the last chapter as it is an unnecessary appendix, yet I wouldn't feel comfortable deleting it. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corrupted Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 Homework is dreaded here and there. I think it depends on the teacher whose giving the homework or the assignments as well...do they try to nail down on the subject or do they find a way to catch you into the assignment? Math, for once i am doing really poor in, be it because they are a female teacher, because all my other math teachers have been male in high school [had one teacher two years though] and i've passed well.. Even having an English teacher two years in a row is a dread because of her teaching style. Its not that i resent the homework, its how they issue it. I understand why most teachers give it out, but some teachers push the extent at times. There are classes i believe are essential and some that are not, we may dread it but at least it makes us all well-rounded in the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thekid345 Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 Homework can be a waste of the time sometimes because:Today we got a lecture from our Math teacher, no not even our real teacher we have a long term sub, telling us thatwe need to take school more seriously, ecspecially having us be an advanced class. She said we need to do review. Well most of the time we dont realize it, but the work we get is the same as stuff we get for 2 weeks. We got the same homework assignment for the third time today. Now i am strange and keep all my assignments, so i just copied the answers. Now i may not make sense considering i am in a very...lethargic, numb mood. Most of the things we get are the same over and over. Homework though, can be useful. I remember an incident 2 years ago in 6th grade(yes im only 13 :rolleyes: ) we had a test. Now most of the stuff was pretty recent but i remember it was the beggining of the year and we learned something useless like finding indierect measurements. I ended up getting a D on the test. If we would have had more review work, I would likely get an A. I am in a similar situation now. I had an A, but now a D ever since my math teacher got pregenant and we got this retarded sub. So homework can be a waste of time, but also a big helper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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