Load order help Please

[ashleyclark]

I am not sure this is in the proper area, so if it is not, maybe a moderator can move it to the proper thread.

 

I am concerned that maybe my load order is not correct. I was wondering that when AOS (Audio Overhaul For Skyrim) required a few patches for other mods that I have, it placed them all at the bottom of the list. Should these patches be under the mods that they are patching? Example. The mod Guard Dialogue Overhaul required a patch from AOS. Should the patch be under Guard Dialogue Overhaul? I use LOOT and this is the order that it has placed everything.

 

I would really appreciate it if someone would be kind enough to take a look at my load order and tell me if it is correct. The game seems to run okay, but a lot of the new dialogue from Guard Dialogue Overhaul is no longer there since I starting using AOS.

 

Please advise

 

 

Plugins

 

 

Skyrim.esm
Update.esm
Dawnguard.esm
HearthFires.esm
Dragonborn.esm
Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
WM Flora Fixes.esp
ApachiiHairFemales.esm
ApachiiHair.esm
OblivionHairPackAIO.esm
Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm
HighResTexturePack01.esp
HighResTexturePack02.esp
HighResTexturePack03.esp
Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp
unlimitedbookshelves.esp
dovahkiin_bound_weapons.esp
kkdrbreplacer.esp
master stone specialisations.esp
hdplants+herbs.esp
RaceMenu.esp
RaceMenuPlugin.esp
dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
XPMSE.esp
CrimsonTwilightArmor.esp
HelmetToggle2.02b.esp
Guild Duelist Armor.esp
ArchmagePrivacy.esp
Dawnguard - Join As A Vampire.esp
Vanilla Races MC Fix.esp
Field Mage Outfit.esp
SkyUI.esp
BecomeAVampire.esp
When Vampires Attack.esp
donorcollegejoin.esp
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Interiors.esp
CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp
JKs Skyrim.esp
YMMP.esp
septimussignusbodies.esp
AOS.esp
Complete Alchemy & Cooking Overhaul.esp
DarkbroSanctuary.esp
Purity.esp
BrighterTorchesBiggerMagelight.esp
forested_skyrim.esp
Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dungeons.esp
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dawnguard Interiors.esp
Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp
Book Covers Skyrim.esp
winterhold_improvements.esp
HelmsWithCirclets.esp
ImmersiveInnKeepers.esp
CWIWCIPatch.esp
Mystical Illumination - Glowing Signs with Point the Way.esp
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Exteriors.esp
goodbrother.esp
DovahBlingJewelryReplacer.esp
OpenFaceGuardHelmets.esp
Understone Keep Repair.esp
Run For Your Lives.esp
Cloaks.esp
EastEmpireQuestMarkers.esp
fallentreebridges.esp
Spiderwick Manor.esp
CaranthirTowerReborn.esp
MissingApprentices.esp
Save the Dark Brotherhood!.esp
_tck_SpellCrafting.esp
highhorothgarexpress.esp
The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp
Lanterns Of Skyrim - AIO - Dawnguard.esp
riverwoodgreenhouse.esp
LevelersTower.esp
Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - for Purity.esp
TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
dgCVwdt.esp
HN66_NAILS4ALL.esp
RUSTIC SOULGEMS - Unsorted.esp
ExtraBanditVoicetypes.esp
Better Vampires.esp
FortDawnguard_NoCobwebs.esp
Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp
Predator Vision.esp
Vampire_Lord_Drain_Destruction.esp
VL No AoE Drain.esp
WeightlessGold.esp
AMatterOfTime.esp
UnreadBooksGlow.esp
disable_blood_splatter_on_screen.esp
Footprints.esp
LeftHandRings.esp
LeftHandRings - Dawnguard.esp
LeftHandRings_1stPersonView.esp
NewmDragoNecklace.esp
MikanEyes All in one.esp
Better Females - Eyebrows.esp
Brows.esp
KS Hairdo's.esp
Chesko_WearableLantern.esp
LindsRobesPack01_NoReq.esp
Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - RLO.esp
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Minor Cities and Town Interiors.esp
HarvestOverhaul.esp
FloraRespawnFix.esp
WM Flora Fixes HO Patch.esp
HarvestOverhaulCreatures.esp
Convenient Horses.esp
Wintermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp
Simple Spell Scaling.esp
KR - Whiterun gate light fix.esp
Mannequin_Female_Vyctoria.esp
NewJewelleryGems.esp
dovahkiin_levitate_spell.esp
TradeBarter.esp
Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp
CACO-Ordinatored.esp
Ordinator - Dragonborn Respec.esp
RDO - CACO Patch.esp
RDO - USLEEP Patch.esp
DeadlyDragons.esp
DeadlyCombat.esp
DeadlyCombat_GiantsAIFix.esp
DeadlySpellImpacts.esp
Combat Evolved.esp
AOS2_DSI Patch.esp
AOS2_DD Patch.esp
AOS2_Purity Patch.esp
AOS2_GDO Patch.esp
Guards Attack Hostiles.esp
Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp

 

[lazloarcadia]

A few things I'd share with you:

 

Mods which overhaul the survival system (Frostfall, Wet & Cold, etc) tend towards being resource intensive, as do ones which add a lot of detail such as Hi Res textures or lots of combatants (warzones, immersive patrols), animals (skytest), or weather overhauls (climates of Tamriel, Vivid weathers, TrueStorms, etc). Running more than one or two of these at the same time usually spells a headache sooner or later. My suggestion is pick a couple of them that are your favorite and go with them, but loading all of them at the same time is simply not realistic. There is a lot of rumor currently about what Skyrim Special Edition will be able to do, and if it will have better memory allocation which can handle such things, but for now erring on the side of caution is your best policy.

 

Asside from that, allow me to offer you the same advise that I've offered others regarding Load Order vs LOOT.

1) Start by sorting your mod list with LOOT

2) Do not trust LOOT

3) Go to the mod authors page and double check EVERYTHING yourself by hand

4) Step 3 is a pain in the royal ass

5) Without step 3 you wont know if LOOT caught everything, and IT DOES NOT

6) Use word or notepad and create your own masterlist as you are double checking your mods

7) Save your master list for future reference to compare against future LOOT sorting

8 ) I have done all of the above (and am still going through my list of nearly 200 mods)

9) There are some things LOOT simply will not catch, a good example of this is when using The People of Skyrim (TPoS) and Expanded Towns and Cities (ETaC). These are mods that LOOT will put in all sorts of crazy places, so much so that even the mod authors speak about how inaccurate LOOT is with these mods.

Trust me. Bite the bullet and try it my way. It is tedious, time comsuming and a royal pain...but will also guarantee you a much more stable game.

NOTE / Disclaimer: This advice should not be taken as me "hating" on LOOT. It is a great tool for what it is, however there are nearly 50,000 mods on the Nexus for Skyrim alone and LOOT cant be expected to know them all.

Edited December 10, 2016 by lazloarcadia

[NexusComa]

This is how I do this take it or leave it ...

 

Delete both loadorder.txt and plugins.txt in C:\Users\???\AppData\Local\Skyrim

Run LOOT, It will remake the 2 files or just the one "loadorder.txt".

Remove the plugins.txt again (if it's there) and make a copy the loadorder.txt

and rename it to plugins.txt ... then edit the new plugins.txt and remove the 1st entry,

Skyrim.esm ... both should now look the same with only Skyrim.esm removed from

plugins.txt.

 

 

This works 100% and will give you the BEST POSSIBLE load order.

 

However it is also best to do this then start the game over.

as done mid game may mess stuff up. (never has happen to me)

Edited December 11, 2016 by NexusComa