Sindrie Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 I kept hearing people say thrall atronaches are useless because all they do is last longer but cost a lot more and take longer to cast but this is untrue I checked using console commands and this is what i found out for the flame atronachNormal flame atronach with 50% better perk had these two statesHealth-178magicka-100 (doesn't realy matter there spells cost absolutly no magicka)Flame thralls hadHealth-372magicka-302 And I noticed that the frost and flame thralls have new attacks the flame thralls have a powerful close range flame thrower(just like the flames spell) attack and frost thralls randomly expload in a frost nova staggering enemiesI noticed 2 flame thralls can take a steam centurion where as it took like 8 normal ones... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaikenEdge Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 I personally like Dead Thralls; get a good one, and that thrall will cast Atronach spells for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sindrie Posted November 27, 2011 Author Share Posted November 27, 2011 (edited) I personally like Dead Thralls; get a good one, and that thrall will cast Atronach spells for you.well ya but not "potent" atronaches and not even thralls also i tried using dead thrall but it sucks it's to glitchy and if you take dead thrall's armor its gone for ever they will never re-equip new armor...I garantee a frost thrall will detroy any deadthrall frost thralls have like 800 health it's rediculous and death thralls run out of mana atros don't there spells cost zero manaand the glitches im talking about is the one when they randomly dissapear for no reason and when they don't use there weapons and go hand to handi'm just w8ing for the creation kit to overhaul necromancy so it's actually usable and not a for shits and giggles kinda thing Edited November 27, 2011 by Sindrie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaikenEdge Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 I personally like Dead Thralls; get a good one, and that thrall will cast Atronach spells for you.well ya but not "potent" atronaches and not even thralls also i tried using dead thrall but it sucks it's to glitchy and if you take dead thrall's armor its gone for ever they will never re-equip new armor...You say that, but I tried it with a Forsworn Ravager, and she re-equiped her armor, no problem. I garantee a frost thrall will detroy any deadthrall frost thralls have like 800 health it's rediculous and death thralls run out of mana atros don't there spells cost zero manaYou say that, but I'd rather have two Forsworn Ravagers, each with her own Frost Atronach, than your two Frost Thralls; if anything, I'd think two Forsworn Ravagers and two Frost Atronach's will outfight your two Frost Thralls simply by the fact that, while the two Frost Atronach's are attacking the two Frost Thralls, the Forsworn Ravagers can still cast, and would, in all likelihood, shell the two Frost Thralls for significant damage. and the glitches im talking about is the one when they randomly dissapear for no reason and when they don't use there weapons and go hand to handi'm just w8ing for the creation kit to overhaul necromancy so it's actually usable and not a for shits and giggles kinda thingI really don't have a problem with my dead thralls disappearing or not using weapons; I don't expect my corpses to engage in melee combat, because getting into melee range simply lowers their effectiveness as extra artillery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sindrie Posted November 28, 2011 Author Share Posted November 28, 2011 There are pages on wiki stating how zombies will not equip new armor and I tried it so either your delusional or some how got a good glitch... also there have been tests with the PRID CC and people have found that thralls in fact get deleated from the game if they fall behind... also i still don't think they would win A I would cast 2 storm thralls if there mages...B atros use no mana at all, I checked with console all there spells are free, and thralls do more damage then normal so now they would hit the mages till they have no magicka so if they do get of each a normal frost which are vastly insuperior to thalls because they litterally have 1/3 the health in fact I think thalls level frost would get plowed then forsworn would have to go melee because no way would they still have any mana after summoning and still being hit but lightning... you can literally git atronaches 1000 times with lightning and they will never stop casting there spells cost 0 (which i think is kinda unbalenced). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddwmk2002 Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Screw atronach thralls and dead thralls!!! we need demora lord thralls!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuco404 Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Screw atronach thralls and dead thralls!!! we need demora lord thralls!!! This. My dremora buddy has the best one liners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sindrie Posted November 28, 2011 Author Share Posted November 28, 2011 ya dramora lords are BA you should be able to get a little weaker(for balence) version of him as a thrall they destroy every thing In all honesty I love dead thalls put it's such a pain having to wait all the way till 100 conj just to get the viable necro spell :/ also just tried it my thrall would not equip his armor when i took i then gave it back so you have a real smart zombie :thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalkus Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 idk about armor but if your dead thrall naturally switches between weps he will upgrade to the strongest wep on his body when he switches i have 2 guards atm sporting ebony battle axes.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sindrie Posted November 28, 2011 Author Share Posted November 28, 2011 ya weapons are not a big prob for me they do equip the best weap ya your right but its the armor thing, iv had to reload because I dont want a nacked necromancer following me around lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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