WoolSoxxGames Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 (edited) First, thank you for reading. I am having an issue where I cannot load any other save state from an actively loaded save state. So, I can load any save from game start menu, but once in an active game, any attempt to load another save state, or even the same one, results in ILS or CTDs. No single save seems to be "corrupted," they just can't be loaded from an active game. Why? I can back out to the main menu again, but cannot further load a save from there after the first one. I have fewer than 139 mods, all cleaned up, and without any errors in load reporting. NMC's medium textures. I am not getting memory leak crashes. I use 4GBNV, NVSE, NVSR, Zan AutoPurge, NVAC, and this is the log: 21095532 _ NewVegasAntiCrash FalloutNV.exe21095532 _ 014E0000 07020100 nvac.dll21095532 _ 147F0000 05000020 nvse_1_4.dll21095614 ; script 'Expression Error: SYNTAX' (40DB7516).21095741 h 76F6E3A4 C6470780 ntdll.dll21095741 ^ 00401043 00000025 FalloutNV.exe21095741 h 76F6E3A8 C6470600 ntdll.dll21095741 ^ 00401043 00000025 FalloutNV.exe21095741 h 76F6E3D8 66894708 ntdll.dll21095741 ^ 00401043 00000025 FalloutNV.exe21095741 h 76F6E3FB 89308B45 ntdll.dll21095741 ^ 00401043 00000025 Fallout~TRUNCATE _21095834 h 004704CC 894804EB FalloutNV.exe21095834 h 004704CC 894804EB FalloutNV.exe21095834 h 004704CC 894804EB FalloutNV.exe21095834 h 004704CC 894804EB FalloutNV.exe21095834 h 004704CC 894804EB FalloutNV.exe21095834 h 004704CC 894804EB FalloutNV.exe21095834 h 004704CC 894804EB FalloutNV.exe21095834 h 004704CC 894804EB FalloutNV.exe21095834 h 004704CC 894804EB FalloutNV.exe21095834 h 004704CC 894804EB FalloutNV.exe21095834 h 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004704CC 894804EB FalloutNV.exe21095834 h 004704CC 894804EB FalloutNV.exe21095834 h 004704CC 894804EB FalloutNV.exe21095834 h 004704CC 894804EB FalloutNV.exe21095834 h 004704CC 894804EB FalloutNV.exe21095834 h 004704CC 894804EB FalloutNV.exe21095834 h 004704CC 894804EB FalloutNV.exe21095834 h 004704CC 894804EB FalloutNV.exe21095834 h 004704CC 894804EB FalloutNV.exe21095834 h 004704CC 894804EB FalloutNV.exe21095834 h 004704CC 894804EB FalloutNV.exe21095834 h 004704CC 894804EB FalloutNV.exe21095834 h 004704CC 894804EB FalloutNV.exe21095834 h 004704CC 894804EB FalloutNV.exe Here is my load order, which works in any save state. I just can't load another save state from an active one. FalloutNV.esmCaravanPack.esmClassicPack.esmMercenaryPack.esmTribalPack.esmGunRunnersArsenal.esmLonesomeRoad.esmDeadMoney.esmHonestHearts.esmOldWorldBlues.esmYUP - Base Game + All DLC.esmProject Nevada - Core.esmProject Nevada - Equipment.esmProject Nevada - Extra Options.esmMore Perks.esmAdvanced Recon Tech.esmCFWNV.esmSomeguySeries.esmNew Vegas Redesigned 3.esmELECTRO-CITY - CompletedWorkorders.esmELECTRO-CITY - Highways and Byways.esmNVInteriors_Core.esmAWorldOfPain(Preview).esmNVInteriors_ComboEdition_AWOP.esmCompanionInfAmmo.esmCompanion Core.esmRobCo Certified.esmWMR.esmSaxxonsQuestPack.esmInterior Lighting Overhaul - Core.esmInterior Lighting Overhaul - L38PS.esmoHUD.esmNevadaSkies.esmGomorrah Redesigned v2.espProject Nevada - Cyberware.espProject Nevada - Rebalance.espDarNifiedUINV.espYUP - NPC Fixes (Base Game + All DLC).espMojaveExtended100.espX-1_Tales_of_Wonder!.espTag Skills Improved.espMore Perks Update.espxatmosSkillPerks.espEVE FNV - ALL DLC.espProject Nevada - Rebalance Complete.espProject Nevada - Cyberware Additions.espProject Nevada - All DLC.espProject Nevada - EVE All DLC.espIMPACT.espIMPACT - AllDLC.espProject Nevada - IMPACT.espBullet Impact Increased LOD.espdD - Enhanced Blood Main NV.espWeaponModsExpanded.espWMX-DLCMerged.espProject Nevada - WMX.espWMX-EVE-AllDLCMerged.espAWOP-IMPACT-WMX-EVE AllDLCMerged.espWMR - WMX Edition.espWMX-ArenovalisTextures.esp357retex.espHZSmoothLight.espScout.espGlove_be_gone.espLeatherBackpack - eng.espAdvanced Recon Tech.espAdvanced Recon Gear.espAdvanced Recon Gear-Locations Doc Mitchell.espAdvanced Recon Desert Ranger Helmet.espAdvanced Recon Gear - Project Nevada.espLonesomeRoadScorchedSierraPowerHelmet.espProjectNevadaScorchedSierraPowerHelmet.espJRougeRangerCoats4Free.espCFW-DLC.espCFW-PN.espCFW-PN-DLC.espCompanions Relax.espCompanionInfAmmoOptional.espCompanionInfAmmoCheat.espUnlimitedCompanions.espUnlimitedCompanions SCRIPT FIX.espED-E 3D Sound.espLight Step ED-E.espConelrad 640-1240.espUHNV.espUHNV-Lonesome Road.espUHNV-Dead Money.espUHNV-Honest Hearts.espUHNV-OWB.espUHNV-Gun Runners Arsenal.espSit Anywhere.espAmmoChecking.espRealSmokes.espFNV-PC idles.espZombie Serenade.espNCR Rearmed.espupdatedWearGlassesandMasks.espRagdolls.espdD-No Screen Blood.espCRL9K_ThisMachineSound.espbzArmour.espELECTRO-CITY - Inventory Sorters Compatibility Patch - RegularCATEYEvalue.espRobCo Certified Friendly Hit Fixer.espNoMainStoryUltimatums.espLegion Quests Expanded.espMM Caravan Guard.espGnome_Wrangler.espNewVegasBounties.espNewVegasBountiesII.espTheInheritance.espAutumnLeaves.espThe Mod Configuration Menu.espMiscItemIconsNV.espVurt's WFO.espDriveableMotorCycle.espZan_AutoPurge_SmartAgro_NV.espAlternative Repairing.espAlternative Repairing - Ultimate Edition.espAlternative Repairing - Additional Campfires.espAlternative Repairing - Breakdown Item Icons.espAlternative Repairing - NVInteriors Combo AWOP Edition.espNVInteriors - Project Nevada Patch.espDYNAVISION 3.espThe Weapon Mod Menu.espInterior Lighting Overhaul - Ultimate Edition.espILO - NVInteriors Project - AWOP.espILO - New Vegas Bounties.espILO - New Vegas Bounties II.espILO - YUP Patch.espNew Vegas Redesigned 3.espCasa Madrid Redesigned.espCASM.espmerge.espMojave Nights.espNevadaSkies - Ultimate DLC Edition.espTotal active plugins: 135Total plugins: 136 Any help would be super appreciated! Edited August 21, 2016 by dmbachleda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubiousintent Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 I've not heard of this particular problem, but notice that you have several mods (including DarnUI) that affect the UI. Any mod that installs XML files (which means any affecting the HUD, UI, Menus. or Controls) is highly dependent upon the "install order", and can cause problems with other controls. That is essentially what you have here. Please see the wiki article "HUD-UI-Menu Issues" and see if that doesn't help. -Dubious- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WoolSoxxGames Posted August 21, 2016 Author Share Posted August 21, 2016 Thank you, Dubiousintent, but as I went to that link, the fixes there are for problems such as "Problems with controls, HUD appearance, Pip-boy, Target Aiming, or menus in general". I don't have any issues like this at all. All those things work well. It's that I can't load other save states from active save states anymore. Queued, who developed NVAC, seems to think the log is referencing a mis-allocation occurring in the Heap protocol. I don't understand yet how I might be able to adjust and fix this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WoolSoxxGames Posted August 22, 2016 Author Share Posted August 22, 2016 Here is an example of the log I am getting now, after attempting to load another save from an active save game: 21193136 _ NewVegasAntiCrash FalloutNV.exe21193136 _ 01AA0000 07020100 nvac.dll21193136 _ 08600000 05000020 nvse_1_4.dll21193207 ; script 'Expression Error: SYNTAX' (03660000).21193309 h 76F6E39E 8B460489 ntdll.dll21193309 ^ 00401043 00000025 FalloutNV.exe21193309 h 76F6E3A4 C6470780 ntdll.dll21193309 ^ 00401043 00000025 FalloutNV.exe21193309 h 76F6E3A8 C6470600 ntdll.dll21193309 ^ 00401043 00000025 FalloutNV.exe21193309 h 76F6E3AC 8B5E088B ntdll.dll21193309 ^ 00401043 00000025 FalloutNV.exe21193309 h 76F6E3AF 8B4E0C89 ntdll.dll21193309 ^ 00401043 00000025 FalloutNV.exe21193309 h 76F6E3C4 663B5E14 ntdll.dll21193309 ^ 00401043 00000025 FalloutNV.exe21193309 h 76F742A1 8B068B50 ntdll.dll21193309 ^ 00401043 00000025 FalloutNV.exe21193309 h 76F742A3 8B50588B ntdll.dll21193309 ^ 00401043 00000025 FalloutNV.exe21193309 h 76F742A6 8B521089 ntdll.dll21193309 ^ 00401043 00000025 FalloutNV.exe21193309 h 76F742AC 8B505C8B ntdll.dll21193309 ^ 00401043 00000025 FalloutNV.exe21193309 h 76F742AF 8B405483 ntdll.dll21193309 ^ 00401043 00000025 FalloutNV.exe21193309 v 76F6E406 F00FC70F ntdll.dll21193309 ^ 00401043 00000025 FalloutNV.exe21193309 u 76F6E406 C0000005 ntdll.dll I am not informed enough to understand the description here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubiousintent Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 That looks like the NVAC log. It's pretty uninformative to anyone but the author. I've got a couple of those "script 'Expression Error: SYNTAX'" messages as well. They aren't causing me problems with loading saves, so not likely the source of your problem. (They might be related to the version of NVSE you are using.) Heap mis-allocation is another issue. See this entry regarding Heap size allocation solutions. I pointed you to that HUD-UI-Menu article because the inability to get a particular vanilla control function (Load) is a UI feature unrelated to NVAC. That only one menu function is not working just means you are lucky; not that you don't have a menu problem. Then again, you might not. We are looking at probable causes. It's not always just one thing. -Dubious- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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