Animation/skeleton/lighting bug

[tozzinator]

Hello,

I've just switched to MO and started installing mods.I've been following Gopher's guide for the most part and occasionally started the game to check that its working.However when i started the default intro sequence i had the jumping cart bug so i installed alternate start.After that everything seemed fine so i continued with the mod installs.

After installing some other mods(FNIS,followed Gophers guide,xp32 maximum skeleton extended,immersive animations and Dual sheath redux and some other minor mods)i started the game again with alternate start mod and chose Breezehome as my starting location.When i went out Idolaf Battle-Born had a weird red triangle thing around him.I looked online and found very little,I tried reseting my INIs but that didnt work.After messing about(which i probably shouldnt have done) i got the red shadow on the main menu logo and loading screen items and the actors/characters ingame also had been frozen/not showing animations including my player character.

I ran LOOT, DSR skyproc patcher and the FNIS patcher both before and after but that didnt help.

i reran the DSR patcher and the frozen characters seemed to work again(all the running and walking animations).I did however merge the files from the SkyProc Patchers with the corresponding mods,I didnt create separate mod in the MO.

I also should say that i ran skyrim without any mods(not even SKSE or SkyUI)and everything was fine so i guess it must be the mods.From my limited knowledge its probably the skeleton or animation mods but my limited knowledge and guessing is what did this in the first place.

 

Anyway,I would appreciate any help and feel free to ask for anything else you need.

Thanks.

 

This is the load order after sorting with LOOT:

0 0 Skyrim.esm

1 1 Update.esm

2 2 Dawnguard.esm

3 3 HearthFires.esm

4 4 Dragonborn.esm

5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp

6 6 Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm

7 7 Campfire.esm

8 8 JSwords.esm

9 9 ClimatesOfTamriel.esm

HighResTexturePack01.esp

HighResTexturePack02.esp

HighResTexturePack03.esp

10 a Cutting Room Floor.esp

11 b Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esp

12 c SkyUI.esp

13 d Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp

14 e Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp

15 f When Vampires Attack.esp

16 10 iHUD.esp

17 11 Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp

18 12 Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp

19 13 AMatterOfTime.esp

20 14 Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp

21 15 Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp

22 16 Weapons & Armor_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.esp

23 17 Breezehome_Fully_Upgradable.esp

24 18 PerkusMaximus_Master.esp

25 19 PerMa Expansion 1 - Wintermyst.esp

26 1a Pre PaMa WAFR CCF CCOR Wintermyst Patch.esp

27 1b PerkusMaximus_Mage.esp

28 1c PerkusMaximus_Thief.esp

29 1d PerkusMaximus_Warrior.esp

30 1e Point The Way.esp

31 1f Run For Your Lives.esp

32 20 Better Vampires.esp

33 21 AHZmoreHUD.esp

34 22 DeadlySpellImpacts.esp

35 23 DeadlySpellImpacts - Two Fire.esp

36 24 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp

37 25 dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp

38 26 dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp

39 27 dD-Larger Splatter Size.esp

40 28 Cloaks.esp

41 29 BetterQuestObjectives.esp

42 2a AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp

43 2b Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp

44 2c Frostfall.esp

45 2d Complete Crafting_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.esp

46 2e Immersive Weapons.esp

47 2f WeaponsArmorFixes_ImmersiveWeapons_Patch.esp

48 30 JSwordsDistributionBalancePlugin.esp

49 31 HoldBorderBanners.esp

50 32 iNeed.esp

51 33 Brevi_MoonlightTales.esp

52 34 Imaginator BETA.esp

53 35 Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp

54 36 Apocalypse - Dragonborn Staff Crafting.esp

55 37 RaceMenu.esp

56 38 RaceMenuPlugin.esp

57 39 WetandCold.esp

58 3a WetandCold - Ashes.esp

59 3b PrvtI_HeavyArmory.esp

60 3c WeaponsOf3E.esp

61 3d PrvtI_HeavyArmory_DG_Addon.esp

62 3e Modern Brawl Bug Fix.esp

63 3f Convenient Horses.esp

64 40 1nivWICCloaks.esp

65 41 1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp

66 42 iNeed - Dangerous Diseases.esp

67 43 Differently Ebony.esp

68 44 Glass Variants.esp

69 45 aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp

70 46 Unique Uniques.esp

71 47 ScopedBows.esp

72 48 Headtracking.esp

73 49 AchieveThat.esp

74 4a DYNAVISION Dynamic Depth of Field.esp

75 4b DeadlyDragons.esp

76 4c BetterQuestObjectives-AFTPatch.esp

77 4d BetterQuestObjectives-AMBSkyforgePatch.esp

78 4e BetterQuestObjectives-CRFPatch.esp

79 4f BetterQuestObjectives-PerMaPatch.esp

80 50 ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp

81 51 ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp

82 52 ClimatesOfTamriel-Dungeons-Hazardous.esp

83 53 ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Cold.esp

84 54 ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-2.esp

85 55 Apocalypse - PerMa Compatibility Patch.esp

86 56 PerMa_USLEEP master patch.esp

87 57 Dual Sheath Redux.esp

88 58 FNIS.esp

89 59 dD-No Spinning Death Animation Merged.esp

90 5a The Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp

91 5b XPMSE.esp

92 5c Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp

93 5d Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp

 

 

[Project579]

Yuo are missing a lot of stuff in load order: how to install Perma:

You need SKSE and SkyUI for some of your mods to work. You will need to know how to make a merge patch with TES5Edit and a bash patch if u want to use Perma. Your load order is not right guide for Perma load order: http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/59257/?tab=4&&navtag=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nexusmods.com%2Fskyrim%2Fajax%2Fcomments%2F%3Fmod_id%3D59257%26page%3D1%26sort%3DDESC%26pid%3D0%26thread_id%3D2213034&pUp=1 General guide for load order: https://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/753253-only-you-can-prevent-forest-fires

[Project579]

67 43 Differently Ebony.esp

68 44 Glass Variants.esp

69 45 aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp

Replace these mods with aMidianborn Content Addon.

21 15 Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp

22 16 Weapons & Armor_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.esp

Not needed if using Perma.

[tozzinator]

Well i havent even tried to correctly install PerMa actually as i figured it didnt have anything to do with lighting.And the load order is kinda butchered because i have been messing with mods.i do have SKSE and SkyUI installed and i believe they have been installed correctly as i have been following Gophers guide for MO.The thing that i am interested in is what the whole red shadow thing is.I will check this guide out as i really havent looked at instructions for PerMa with MO.I have a few screenshots but i cant figure out how to upload them.

Thanks for responding and for linking the guide anyway,I might just restart the whole mod installation seeing as i am using MO and the base game is fine.

[Project579]

If you are going to reinstall start with texture mods and then install Perma and the related mods after those install the rest, anyway if you are a noob you should not start by installing things like Perma if you want to modify the perk tree u can try Ordinator: http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/68425/ and can u please post your ModWatch: http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/56640/

[tozzinator]

Hey just wanted to let you know that i have reinstalled most mods without any animations/skeletons or skyproc patchers.I ran the game and everything seemed to work fine so now im just watching all the perma tutorials and i have a question:I want to run PatchusMaximus obviously but i also want Dual Sheath Redux which requires FNIS and xp32MSE and from what i can tell i need to run PatchusMaximus first and then install DSR.I would just like confirmation that I should do it in this order.

I also found out about SUM(SkyProc Unified Manager)and i was wondering is it better to use that or run the patchers separately.

And one final thing is should i clean the masters from the base game through mod organizer or just run TES5Edit from the exe.

 

Anyway massive thanks for putting up with my noobness and whatever else you need just say the word.

[Project579]

Install all the mods you need; run FNIS, then PatchusMaximus and DSR ReProccer in the end.

For cleaning the masters with TES5Edit you should run it inside Mod Organazer and create a mod with the cleaned masters so you don't touch the Data folder of your game (TES5Edit Cleaned masters and backup should finish inside the Overwrite folder put the backups back into your data folder and make a mod containing the cleaned masters).

Edited August 23, 2016 by Project579

[tozzinator]

Shouldn't FNiS run after all animation mods including DSR and xp32?

[Project579]

DSR is not an animation mod XP32 maximum skeleton extended needs to be installed before you run fnis.