Crashing with no error message

[seancass42]

Sorry for the newbie question and being i am new to modding and the first thread was a bit confusing i figured i would ask a simple help question here....i get a crash to desktop with no error message and with I run LOOT some of the mods are saying "Contains # of ITM records, # of deleted references and # of deleted navmeshes. Use TESVEdit to clean". And alos the Unofficla Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch is showing this

 

This Plugin is Incompatible with "Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp, Dragonborn.esp, Skyrim, esp, anmd Hearthfire, esp. But both are present

 

My question is how do I resolve this?

 

 

[Darkstyler35]

Hello,

• Make sure you're using the latest USLEEP instead of the obsolete unofficial patches. If some of your old mods require them, you may use the USLEEP swap masters and don't use both USLEEP and the individual unofficial patches. Preferably, use USLEEP and don't use mods that need these old patches.
• CTDs troubleshooting page on Reddit, depending on what's happening in game, choose the subsections that describes the best your problem.
• Make sure you're using the good mods >> Dangerous mods list.
• Verify gamecache.

Here is a list of things that may help stabilizing your game if not already been done. :

/// Cleaning and correcting potential bugs :

• Clean your master files to eliminate potential problems : Gopher's videos cleaning your masterfiles on the Nexus Tesedit page. You may use this updated guide to clean your masters. It contains the same automated cleaning procedure as Gopher explains in his video + repeating once for Dawnguard.esm + some selective manual cleaning.
• The method above can be used to clean mods. LOOT should tell you which plugin you should clean. You may also do a check errors.

/// Load order / mods conflicts :

• Use L.O.O.T once and click on the "sort plugins buttons".
• Create a wryebash patch including leveled lists.
• Create a merged patch with Tesedit excluding leveled lists
• How things work in Tes5edit : load order / conflict looser - winner / Forwarding / adding as a master. More specifically, you may create a manual patch between two or more mods.

/// Settings / memory :

• Preferably, use crash fixes with the UseOSAllocators=1 instead of skse memory patch or SSME.
• You may also install safety load if you experience infinite loading screens or freezing in game.
• Memory blocks log will help to refine memory settings.
• Skyrim performance monitor.
• Backup your ini files and delete the files. Skyrim.ini / SkyrimCustom.ini / SkyrimPrefs.ini found in C:\Users\User\Documents\My Games\Skyrim then use your vanilla launcher to autodetect and use best settings for your computer.
• STEP INI tweaking wiki.
• You may install ENBOOST >> ENB graphics / ENB haxx.

/// Save game :

• Don't uninstall mods at mid-game, there are no clean save in Skyrim but using save script cleaner can help removing orphan scripts.
• New SkyrimTools, (corrupt saves topic).

/// Meshes healer :

• Read here, this is potentially a cause of CTD that you can resolve by following the mod procedure on this page.

/// Useful informations :

• Selective loading : untick 50% of your mods, beginning by the end of your load order and test in game. Then depending on if the problem occurs again or not, increase /decrease the remaining loading mods to find the culprit.
• If you're using win8-10 + a GPU with more than 4GB VRAM + a heavily modded game and experiencing stuttering, random freezes or / and FPS drops, this may occur when the VRAM usage exceeds 4GB, read here for more details.
• Direct-x 9 C.

• In NMM settings, see where your tracelog path is (C:\Users\User\Documents\Nexus Mod Manager), open a request in the NMM open beta forum and post your tracelog.txt.

• Skyrim requirements wiki.
• Skse installation : skse on steam or Manual install. (SKSE, memory and skse.ini). SKSE logs are here : C:\Users\User\Documents\My Games\Skyrim\SKSE. SKSE troubleshooting guide.
• STEP troubleshooting page.
• An efficient guide to build your game : STEP / Official S.T.E.P. Mod Organizer video series.
• Ensure your skyrim installation is healthy = Make skyrim vanilla again.
• Crashdump analysis.
• Papyrus log is a scripts log only and doesn't cover anything else, not a crash log. Interpreting Papyrus Log Errors / Enabling papyrus logging
• Need a tool to manage GPU fan speed that works with ENB ? You may try Afterburner, (tested)

Hope this helps.

[seancass42]

okay....update on the situation....ran TESVEdit and cleaned.....reran LOOT and one of the plugins is still giving me a clean with TESV Edit. ( the name of the file is Sace Wikings The Elementals.esp and it has 2 Identical To Master records) , the Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Patch is still giving me that it is imcompatible with the other Unofficial Skyrim, Dragonborn, Hearthfire, and Dawnguard Patches (all esp files) so i am assuming that one or the other has to be deleted or deactivated. and there are a few others that just need a compatibility patch

[Project579]

Please post your modWatch: http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/56640

[Darkstyler35]

<so i am assuming that one or the other has to be deleted or deactivated.> make sure to run the scripts cleaner after.

[seancass42]

deactivated the Unofficial Skyrim, Dragonborn, Dawnguard, and Hearthfire Patches because they were in conflict with the Unofficial Legendary Edition Patch. But I am still getting the message that there are 2 Identical To Master record for the Space Wikings The elementals and I have done everything to clean them. Am starting to think that it would be better if I just deleted/deactivated it. Another question would it crash my game if I left it?

 

LOOT says that there are no errors and 1 warning (the Space Wikings The Elementals plugin)

[Darkstyler35]

<deactivated the Unofficial Skyrim, Dragonborn, Dawnguard, and Hearthfire Patches because they were in conflict with the Unofficial Legendary Edition Patch> Good.

 

<But I am still getting the message that there are 2 Identical To Master record for the Space Wikings The elementals and I have done everything to clean them> LOOT message ? If so and the files have been cleaned, ignore the message.

 

<Another question would it crash my game if I left it?> no, it's just an information LOOT gives you about your plugins.

[Madzookeeper]

if you actually cleaned a file then it's fine, regardless of loot saying that it's still dirty.