colskyrim Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 Hello. I have had some issues with modding for some time, and I dediced to start from scratch. When I added my mods for my current playthrough I did it in gradual steps adding few mods at a time and testing the game, I had no crash issues. However, now I have started crashing and I have issues finding the culrpit even using TES5Edit conflict filter and testing out mods in groups has not brought me closer to the solution. I thought I'd post my mod organizer left panel priority order and my load order and ask you guys if you can spot anything.Here's the list of the left pane priority order from highest to lowest priority.# This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer.+BashedPatch+TES5EditMergePatch+AV stuff+FNIS stuff+RealShelterPatch+Automatic Variants+Fores New Idles in Skyrim - FNIS+Safety Load+Skyrim Performance PLUS+Alternate Start - Live Another Life+SimplyKnockScript+Insects Begone - Modularly Removing Spiders and Chaurus+Open Cities Skryim - Patch Central - REGS Compatible+Open Cities Skyrim+Lanterns Of Skyrim ELFX patch+Insects Begone - Compatibility Patches+Lanterns of Skyrim - Skyrim Bridges Patch+Unread Books Glow+skse scripts+Remove Underwater Grass - A Performance Mod+Combat Evolved+Real Shelter v1.4.0.7 USLEEP Patch+Supreme Storms+True Storms - Thunder and Rain Redone v1.5+More Sound Options+Perks Unbound - Legendary Edition+Improved Dragon Shouts+Immersive NPC in the dark-Better Shadowmarks+Skyrim Immersive Creatures - Weapons and Armor Fixes Remade Patch+Populated Forts Towers Places+Complete Crafting Overhaul Remade Patches+Unique Uniques - Weapons and Armor Fixes Remade Patch+Better Harvesting+Dovahkiin's Vault+Underwater Treasure+CCFM - HoleyGrail-Inconsequential NPCs+Better Stealth AI for Followers - No Torch while Sneaking+Hidden Treasures+My Home is Your Home (MHiYH 2plus)-IMAGINATOR - Visual Control Device for Skyrim+Lucidity Sound FX+Hidden City Treasures+Individualized Shout Cooldowns+Categorized Favorites Menu+Wolf Howls and Growls+IHSS - Improved Horse Step Sounds+Follower Commentary Overhaul - FCO+Dragon Combat Overhaul+Heart of the Beast - Werewolf Sound and Texture Overhaul+More Interesting Loot for Skyrim+Extensible Follower Framework+Malkavs Collection _70 boxes to find+Unique Uniques+A Thieves Treasure+Sabre Cat Sound Overhaul+Better Animal Footsteps+More treasure maps+Skyrim -Community- Uncapper+Thundering shouts+Another Sorting Mod-2016+Sounds of Skyrim - The Wilds+Better Claw Puzzles+Atlas Map Markers for Skyrim Blackreach Dawnguard and Dragonborn+Predator Vision - Vampire Werewolf and Khajiit+Multiple Floors Sandboxing+Skyrim Project Optimization+Better Shrine Blessings+Fuz Ro Doh+Purity+Revamped Exterior Fog+No Spinning Death Animation+Skyrim Realistic Archery - Bows - Arrows - Crossbows - Bolts+Casual bow animations+Dragon Animation Replace+360 Walk and Run Plus+Sabrecat Animation Fix v2+Morning Fogs Refined+Improved sneak detection+Moonlight Tales - Werewolf and Werebear Essentials+Even Better Quest Objectives+ETHEREAL AURORAS+Ethereal Cosmos+ELECTRIFY+Dust Effects+Realistic Sun for Climates of Tamriel and Vanilla+Dynamic Immersive Seriously Dark Dungeons - Eternal Darkness Redone+Wiseman303's Trap Fixes+Wiseman303's Critter Fixes+Remove Interior Fog V2-Real Roads for Skyrim+D13 Faster GET UP STAND UP animation vanilla friendly+INIGO+83Willows 101BugsHD Butterfly Dragonfly Luna-Moth Torchbug+Skyrim Shadow Striping Fix+Silence the Crackle+Stealth Skills Rebalanced - Sneak - Lockpicking - Pickpocket+SSIRT v2.0+Main Menu Background Replacer+Sexy Winterhold College+Smaller Cursor+Black Dragonscale Hi-Res Retexture+Nightingale Pride - Bow and Blade Reincarnation+RaceMenu+SkyUI+Simply Knock+Get Snowy+Wet and Cold+Enhanced Blood Textures+Bandolier - Bags and Pouches+VioLens - A Killmove Mod+Riverside Lodge+The Paarthurnax Dilemma+Solstice Castle+Tamriel Reloaded - Interiors+Designs of the Nords+Ultimate Solitude 2015+HD Noble Furniture+Chris2012s Whiterun HQ Texture Pack+Markarth - The White City+PELTAPALOOZA - Pelts of Skyrim Expansion+RUSTIC FARMHOUSES+Osmodius Windhelm Texture Pack+Osmodius Solitude Texture Pack+Better Falskaar and Wyrmstooth Map With Roads+Immersive Soulgems+Skyrim Bridges+Watercolor for ENB and Realistic Water Two+Realistic Water Two+Coverkhajiits+Natural Eyes+Better Circlets HQ V1o1+Baskets and Woven Decoratives UHD+RUSTIC ELDERSCROLL+RUSTIC OVEN - Hearthfires+RUSTIC DINNERWARE+RUSTIC POTTERY+RUSTIC ALCHEMY and ENCHANTING TABLES+HQ Paper+HD Urns Retex+Superior Silverware - HD Textures+Embers HD+HD Charcoal for Smelter - 2K and 1K texture replacer+HD Stone Quarry and Clay Deposit for Hearthfire+HD Sacks Retexture+RUSTIC WORD WALLS+RUSTIC STANDING STONES+SkySight - Smelter Ultra HD 4K and 2K Textures+Point The Way+HD Ore And Ingots+Book Covers Skyrim - Compatibility Patch Collection+Book Covers Skyrim+Glowing Ore Veins 300+Natural Aspen recolor+Alternative Road Textures+Nightingale Prime HD+High Quality Food and Ingrediants+Ultimate HD Fire Effects+Realistic HD Mushrooms+RUSTIC POTIONS and POISONS+HiRes Legible Road Signs+ETHEREAL CLOUDS+RUGNAROK+A Quality World Map and Solstheim Map - With Roads+Storms - Automatic Variants for Storm Atronach+Automatic Variants for Critters+Wolverines Automatic Variants Port -- Multiple Authors+Automatic Variants Package -- Werewolf Eyes and Skins+Benjamin318s Automatic Variants+Grace Darklings Automatic Variants Texture Packs+HD Werewolves - With support for Moonlight Tales and Automatic Variants+Husky 2k Variants - An Automatic Variants Package+6 Mudcrabs for Automatic Variants+StarX AV Packages+Ice Wraith and Dragon Priest Retexture 4k - 2k+Frost Atronach HD Retex+More Dramatic Alduin Retexture+OH GOD BEES - More Bees--More Hives--HD Textures+SABRECATS OF SKYRIM - Hi-Res Texture Packs+Luminescent Luna Moths+Bellyaches HD Dragon Replacer Pack+Deathbell HD - All-New Textures (2K-1K)+Realistic Aspen Trees+High Definition Ivy+TreesHD_Skyrim_Variation+RUSTIC CLOTHING+aMidianBorn book of silence CREATURES+aMidianBorn Book of Silence - Weapons+aMidianBorn Book of Silence - Unique Items+aMidianBorn book of silence ARMORS+Real Ice ALL-IN-ONE+Transparent and refracting Icicle and Frost Atronach+The Beauty of Skyrim - Caves and Mines+The Beauty of Skyrim - Dungeons+Superior Rock Textures - Hiqh Quality HD 2K and 4K and 1K replacers+Animal Tweaks-One With Nature - Dynamic Animals and Creatures+Animallica - Skyrim Wildlife Overhaul+Birds of Skyrim+Skyrim Immersive Creatures+Deadly_Dragons+Daedric Armor and weapon Improvement+Daedric Assassin Armor+aMidianBorn Landscape+Enhanced Lights and FX+Skyrim HD - 2K Textures+Static Mesh Improvement Mod+Complete Crafting Overhaul Remade+Clothing and Clutter Fixes+Weapons and Armor Fixes Remade+Guard Dialogue Overhaul+Immersive HUD - iHUD+Cutting Room Floor+LeanWolf's Better-Shaped Weapons - All in One Installer+No More Blocky Faces+Visible Windows+Ruins Clutter Improved+Dragonbone Crossbow+Immersive Weapons+Immersive Armors+Enchantment Reload Fix+Better MessageBox Controls+Better Dialogue Controls+OneTweak+Lanterns of Skyrim - All In One+Real Shelter - Full Release+Wiseman303's Flora Fixes+Falskaar+Optimized Dragonborn Textures - HD+Optimized HearthFires Textures - HD+Optimized Dawnguard Textures - HD+Optimized Vanilla Textures - HD+Unofficial High Resolution Patch*Unmanaged: HighResTexturePack03*Unmanaged: HighResTexturePack02*Unmanaged: HighResTexturePack01+Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch+Cleaned DLCNext is my load order: # This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer.Skyrim.esmUpdate.esmDawnguard.esmHearthFires.esmDragonborn.esmUnofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.espFalskaar.esmWM Flora Fixes.espLanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esmEFFCore.esmHighResTexturePack01.espHighResTexturePack02.espHighResTexturePack03.espUnofficial High Resolution Patch.espRealShelter.espSkyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.espCutting Room Floor.espSkyUI.espiHUD.espRaceMenu.espRaceMenuPlugin.espUnreadBooksGlow.espPopulated Forts Towers Places.espOne With Nature - DG+DB.espHothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.espHothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.espGuard Dialogue Overhaul.espWeapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.espClothing & Clutter Fixes.espComplete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.espWeapons & Armor_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.espPurity.espSkyrim Bridges.espBetterQuestObjectives.espBook Covers Skyrim.espBCS - CCOR Patch.espSkyrim Immersive Creatures.espWAF_CCF_SIC Patch.espImmersive Weapons.espWeaponsArmorFixes_ImmersiveWeapons_Patch.espBetter Harvesting (for Wisemans Flora Fixes).espHARODATH_ImmersiveSoulgems.espAnotherSortingMod-2016.espaMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp83Willows_101BUGS_V4_HighRes.espSoS - The Wilds.espWM Trap Fixes.espVioLens.espSimplyKnock.espWetandCold.espWetandCold - Ashes.espSMIM-DragonbornTernFix.espSMIM-DungeonsCliffsIceSkirts.espSMIM-FurnitureChestSnowFix.espSkysan_Icicle.espRemove Interior Fog V2 - Full Version.espLuminescent Luna Moths - 101BugsHD HighRes.espRealisticWaterTwo.espRealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.espRealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Falskaar.espBirdsofskyrim.espSkyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.espI5K Treasure Hunt.espPoint The Way.espFCO - Follower Commentary Overhaul.espMalkavs_Collection_V21.espMalkavs_Collection_V211.espInigo.espWMFF Inigo Patch.espRiversideLodge.espCCO_SIC_Patch.espWatercolor_for_ENB_RWT.espSkyrim Bridges RS Patch for vanilla.espLanterns of Skyrim - Skyrim Bridges Patch.espRealisticWaterTwo - Falskaar.espAnimallica.espdD - Enhanced Blood Main.espdD-DG-DB-Immersive Creatures EBT Patch.espAThievesTreasure.espUnderwater_Treasure.espSMIM-ShackRoofFixes.espEnhancedLightsandFX.espELFXEnhancer.espSkysan_ELFX_SMIM_Fix.espSkyrim Shadow Striping Fix.espBetterPuzzleDoorCSB.espgetSnowy.espgetSnowy_WnC-Ashes Patch.espSMIM-ShackRoofFixesDragonborn.espSolsticeCastle.espPerks Unbound - Merged.espRealShelter USLEEP Patch.espSMIM-FarmhouseFlickeringFix.espRevampedExteriorFog.espTrueStorms.espTrueStorms-PureWeather.espSupreme Storms.espTrueStorms-SupremeStorms-Vanilla.espHiddenCityTreasures.espMorning Fogs.espJBMod.espDr_Bandolier.espJBMod - ELFX3 Patch.espDragon Combat Overhaul.espDeadlyDragons.espPredator Vision.espGT Better Shrine Blessings 160408.espdD-No Spinning Death Animation Merged.esp360WalkandRunPlus-RunBackwardSpeedAdjust.espSkyrim Realistic Archery.espUnique Uniques.espBetterQuestObjectives-AMBSkyforgePatch.espBetterQuestObjectives-CRFPatch.espEFFDialogue.espBetterQuestObjectives-EFFPatch.espDovah Vault.espMore Interesting Loot for Skyrim.espThe Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp_clumod.espEmbersHD.espRiverside Lodge RS patch.espSolstice Castle RS Patch.espLanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - for Purity.espLanternsOfSkyrimELFXpatch.espMy Home Is Your Home.espsandboxcylinderheight.espBetterQuestObjectives-PaarDilemmaPatch.espAtlas Compass Tweaks.espAnotherSortingMod-2016+.espBrevi_MoonlightTalesEssentials.espMoreSoundOptions.espThundering Shouts.espIHSS.espWolf Howls and Growls LP LH.espImproved Dragon Shouts.espImproved Dragon Shouts - Dawnguard.espImproved Dragon Shouts - Dragonborn.espIndividualizedShoutCooldowns.espAnimal Tweaks.espAnimal Tweaks - One With Nature Patch.espAnimal Tweaks - SIC.espAnimal Tweaks - SkyTEST Patch.espCombat Evolved.espStealth Skills Rebalanced_COMPLETE.espImprovedSneakDetection.espUIExtensions.espBook Covers Skyrim_ASM-2016.espFalskaar_ASM-2016.espSkyrim Immersive Creatures_ASM-2016.espWeapons and Armor Fixes_Remade_ASM-2016.espInsects Begone - Spiders.espInsects Begone - Dawnguard - One Stupid Spider.espInsects Begone - Hearthfires.espInsects Begone - DragonBorn Spiders.espInsects Begone - Falskaar Patch.espBetter Stealth AI for Followers.espDaedricAssassinArmorHeavy.espDaedricAssassinArmorLight.espDragonboneCrossbow.espImmersive NPC in the dark.espOpen Cities Skyrim.espAtlas Legendary OCS.espAlternate Start - Live Another Life.espBetterQuestObjectives-AlternateStartPatch.espOCS - Inconsequential NPCs Patch.espAlternate Start -- New Beginnings.esptes5editmerge.espRSPatch.espFNIS.espBashed Patch, 0.espAutomatic Variants.esp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madzookeeper Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 you want to have both panels match. i know you won't find that documented anywhere, and even directly contradicted depending on who you ask, but if you don't have them matching then you are essentially loading two different mod orders since the left panel loads all of the data. start by making the left panel match the left and see if that helps with your crashing as a first step. if it's still being a problem make sure that nothing you're using is on the dangerous mods list : https://www.reddit.com/r/skyrimmods/wiki/dangerous_mods_masterlist that's the first two things i'd do, personally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkstyler35 Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 Hello,Make sure you're using the good mods >> Dangerous mods list.CTDs troubleshooting page on Reddit, depending on what's happening in game, choose the subsections that describes the best your problem.Verify gamecache.Here is a list of things that may help stabilizing your game if not already been done. : /// Cleaning and correcting potential bugs :Clean your master files to eliminate potential problems : Gopher's videos cleaning your masterfiles on the Nexus Tesedit page. You may use this updated guide to clean your masters. It contains the same automated cleaning procedure as Gopher explains in his video + repeating once for Dawnguard.esm + some selective manual cleaning.The method above can be used to clean mods. LOOT should tell you which plugin you should clean. You may also do a check errors./// Load order / mods conflicts : Use L.O.O.T once and click on the "sort plugins button".Create a wryebash patch including leveled lists.Create a merged patch with Tesedit excluding leveled listsHow things work in Tes5edit : load order / conflict looser - winner / Forwarding / adding as a master. More specifically, you may create a manual patch between two or more mods./// Settings / memory : Preferably, use crash fixes with the UseOSAllocators=1 instead of skse memory patch or SSME.You may also install safety load if you experience infinite loading screens or freezing in game.Memory blocks log will help to refine memory settings.Skyrim performance monitor.Backup your ini files and delete the files. Skyrim.ini / SkyrimCustom.ini / SkyrimPrefs.ini found in C:\Users\User\Documents\My Games\Skyrim then use your vanilla launcher to autodetect and use best settings for your computer.STEP INI tweaking wiki.You may install ENBOOST >> ENB graphics / ENB haxx./// Save game :Don't uninstall mods at mid-game, there are no clean save in Skyrim but using save script cleaner can help removing orphan scripts.New SkyrimTools, (corrupt saves topic)./// Meshes healer :Read here, this is potentially a cause of CTD that you can resolve by following the mod procedure on this page./// Useful informations : Selective loading : untick 50% of your mods, beginning by the end of your load order and test in game. Then depending on if the problem occurs again or not, increase /decrease the remaining loading mods to find the culprit.If you're using win8-10 + a GPU with more than 4GB VRAM + a heavily modded game and experiencing stuttering, random freezes or / and FPS drops, this may occur when the VRAM usage exceeds 4GB, read here for more details.Direct-x 9 C, 9 C update.In NMM settings, see where your tracelog path is (C:\Users\User\Documents\Nexus Mod Manager), open a request in the NMM open beta forum and post your tracelog.txt.Skyrim requirements wiki.Skse installation : skse on steam or Manual install. (SKSE, memory and skse.ini). SKSE logs are here : C:\Users\User\Documents\My Games\Skyrim\SKSE. SKSE troubleshooting guide.STEP troubleshooting page.An efficient guide to build your game : STEP / Official S.T.E.P. Mod Organizer video series.Ensure your skyrim installation is healthy = Make skyrim vanilla again.Make sure you're using the latest USLEEP instead of the obsolete unofficial patches. If some of your old mods require them, you may use the USLEEP swap masters.Crashdump analysis.Papyrus log is a scripts log only and doesn't cover anything else, not a crash log. Interpreting Papyrus Log Errors / Enabling papyrus loggingShut down background programs such as intellipoint, fan manager, etc... Need a tool to manage GPU fan speed that works with ENB ? You may try Afterburner, (tested)/// Credits : these persons deserve their kudos, (among others) not referenced here by a Nexus mod or accessible profile but provide help with articles and other stuff linked above.Thallassa / Matortheeternal / Arthmoor / BorisVorontsof / GamerPoets / Gopher / TheCompiler (+ all the STEP team) / Luco81 (NMM forum) / Tannin42 /Hope this helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankFamily Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 Something like that should be pinned if it isnt already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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