CTD on load/save

[Mixerslayer]

Hi everyone :smile: so yesterday i played skyrim for few hours with maybe 1 random ctd thats normal for me but then i want to save skyrim last time and quit but unfortunately i got ctd when i tried to save(i save game many times yesterday without any ctd) well i said f.ck it i will do this later it was only few minutes of gameplay, after few hours i want to play skyrim again but i couldn't load any save(CTD on load) even the old ones that works before without any problems, i could load some saves even the new one from yesterday but i couldn't save them anyway(CTD on save) even if i manage to save them i couldn't load them(CTD on load) well its complicated but i hope you understand what i'm saying. That's weird from almost perfect working game to totally broken,unplayable game without installing any new mods. I dont know what is the problem i thought it might be bugged mission or something yesterday i started the dark brotherhood and dawnguard story i tried to use LOOT didnt help, i also tried new game and its works fine i can save and load without any problem,ctd but dont get it why the old saves that works before now causes ctd ;/ save weight=12mb. Any ideas ? thanks for help ! and sorry for bad english

 

 

@btw

I use Mod organizer and i tried to uncheck mods that i installed in last weeks but didnt help

Edited August 25, 2016 by Mixerslayer

[Darkstyler35]

Hello,

• CTDs troubleshooting page on Reddit, depending on what's happening in game, choose the subsections that describes the best your problem.
• Try on a new game if you have the same problem. If not, your save may be corrupted due to uninstalling mods, mods conflict, load order, etc... See /// Settings / memory + /// Save game.
• Make sure you're using the good mods >> Dangerous mods list.
• Verify gamecache.

Here is a list of things that may help stabilizing your game if not already been done. :

/// Cleaning and correcting potential bugs :

• Clean your master files to eliminate potential problems : Gopher's videos cleaning your masterfiles on the Nexus Tesedit page. You may use this updated guide to clean your masters. It contains the same automated cleaning procedure as Gopher explains in his video + repeating once for Dawnguard.esm + some selective manual cleaning.
• The method above can be used to clean mods. LOOT should tell you which plugin you should clean. You may also do a check errors.

/// Load order / mods conflicts :

• Use L.O.O.T once and click on the "sort plugins button".
• Create a wryebash patch including leveled lists.
• Create a merged patch with Tesedit excluding leveled lists
• How things work in Tes5edit : load order / conflict looser - winner / Forwarding / adding as a master. More specifically, you may create a manual patch between two or more mods.

/// Settings / memory :

• Preferably, use crash fixes with the UseOSAllocators=1 instead of skse memory patch or SSME.
• You may also install safety load if you experience infinite loading screens or freezing in game.
• Memory blocks log will help to refine memory settings.
• Skyrim performance monitor.
• Backup your ini files and delete the files. Skyrim.ini / SkyrimCustom.ini / SkyrimPrefs.ini found in C:\Users\User\Documents\My Games\Skyrim then use your vanilla launcher to autodetect and use best settings for your computer.
• STEP INI tweaking wiki.
• You may install ENBOOST >> ENB graphics / ENB haxx.

/// Save game :

• Don't uninstall mods at mid-game, there are no clean save in Skyrim but using save script cleaner can help removing orphan scripts.
• New SkyrimTools, (corrupt saves topic).

/// Meshes healer :

• Read here, this is potentially a cause of CTD that you can resolve by following the mod procedure on this page.

/// Useful informations :

• Selective loading : untick 50% of your mods, beginning by the end of your load order and test in game. Then depending on if the problem occurs again or not, increase /decrease the remaining loading mods to find the culprit.
• If you're using win8-10 + a GPU with more than 4GB VRAM + a heavily modded game and experiencing stuttering, random freezes or / and FPS drops, this may occur when the VRAM usage exceeds 4GB, read here for more details.
• Direct-x 9 C, 9 C update.
• In NMM settings, see where your tracelog path is (C:\Users\User\Documents\Nexus Mod Manager), open a request in the NMM open beta forum and post your tracelog.txt.
• Skyrim requirements wiki.
• Skse installation : skse on steam or Manual install. (SKSE, memory and skse.ini). SKSE logs are here : C:\Users\User\Documents\My Games\Skyrim\SKSE. SKSE troubleshooting guide.
• STEP troubleshooting page.
• An efficient guide to build your game : STEP / Official S.T.E.P. Mod Organizer video series.
• Ensure your skyrim installation is healthy = Make skyrim vanilla again.
• Make sure you're using the latest USLEEP instead of the obsolete unofficial patches. If some of your old mods require them, you may use the USLEEP swap masters.
• Crashdump analysis.
• Papyrus log is a scripts log only and doesn't cover anything else, not a crash log. Interpreting Papyrus Log Errors / Enabling papyrus logging
• Shut down background programs such as intellipoint, fan manager, etc... Need a tool to manage GPU fan speed that works with ENB ? You may try Afterburner, (tested)

/// Credits : these persons deserve their kudos, (among others) not referenced here by an accessible profile but provide help with articles and other stuff linked above.

• Thallassa / Matortheeternal / Arthmoor / BorisVorontsof / GamerPoets / Gopher / TheCompiler (+ all the STEP team) / Luco81 (NMM forum) / Tannin42 /

Hope this helps.

[Mixerslayer]

Thx for answer i will check it step by step

[Mixerslayer]

I think i found something its not a solution but it is something that causes ctd when i uncheck some mods in MO that add new animations to the game and run skyrim i got T pose in game and overall there is no animations in game and i can save and load game without any problems but when i use FNIS again to load animations i got ctd on load/save i think i need to reinstall FNIS and mods that add new animations am i right?

btw it is normal that every animation become disabled after unchecking only ONE mod that add animations?(for example estrus)

Edited August 26, 2016 by Mixerslayer

[Project579]

You run FNIS with "skeleton arm fix" selected right?

[Mixerslayer]

yes

Edited August 26, 2016 by Mixerslayer

[Project579]

Try reinstalling first the animation mods then realistic ragdolls and force after it XPMSE and finally FNIS then run it.

[Mixerslayer]

it is safe ? i mean most of animations mods like sexlab are scripted right?

[bill8872]

Yes it is.

Just make sure XPMSE is installed last. If anything overwrites it then your animations may not work, and possibly be unable to move in game.

 

Also anytime you change animation mods you must run FINS or the same thing will happen.

I have never had a CTD by forgetting, only unable to move.

Edited August 26, 2016 by bill8872

[Project579]

Remember to run the reset function on sexlab framework after reinstalling the mod.