Zimnel Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 I really loved Morrowind's Journal system and appearance. It felt like a real adventurer diary, that open book with date and every quest with details and searchable topics. I missed it a lot in Oblivion, and I missed it even more in Skyrim. As far as I know, Skyrim black and white UI gives you a rough list of all quests you have and divide them into side quests and important quests. But reading at them doesn't give you any clue to what occured the day you picked the quest. Was it on loredas or in sundas? Was yesterday or a week ago? What were my impressions on the npc which I talked to? That black and white list with one sentence on the side as information, not even stating the city where you picked the quest, it's very poor for me. I know nothing can be made until CS release, but a real journal in Skyrim would be just wonderful.Same as some editable books, diaries or blank notes to write your experiences on them :) And what about a real quest manager? It would be nice a quest division by cities or factions.Feel free to share your thoughts on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooltrickle Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 I really loved Morrowind's Journal system and appearance. It felt like a real adventurer diary, that open book with date and every quest with details and searchable topics. I missed it a lot in Oblivion, and I missed it even more in Skyrim. As far as I know, Skyrim black and white UI gives you a rough list of all quests you have and divide them into side quests and important quests. But reading at them doesn't give you any clue to what occured the day you picked the quest. Was it on loredas or in sundas? Was yesterday or a week ago? What were my impressions on the npc which I talked to? That black and white list with one sentence on the side as information, not even stating the city where you picked the quest, it's very poor for me. I haven't played Morrowmind, so I can't relate there, but I agree that the journal is not detailed enough. I remember doing one quest, where I had to find a sword and bring it back to the owner. I found the sword but I couldn't return it because I forgot where I picked up the quest. There was no quest marker, just the journal telling me to return the sword. It gave the name of the owner but not where he/she lived! In a game, that prides itself on the sheer number of quests, it's unreasonable to expect the player to remember every last detail. I think it's going to take a while to gather all the data to flesh out the journal entries, but it's definitely worth doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zimnel Posted December 2, 2011 Author Share Posted December 2, 2011 (edited) I suppose the trick should consist on take track on topics, or on quest givers. Many players do quests instantly when they are supposed to to them, but many of us don't :whistling: I know this request is not an easy one, but it should be a way to mark quest givers and they related topics.Perhaps it should be a way to enlarge quest descriptions and make the journal more immersive. If you never played Morrowind, I'll say you the journal there was like a real book. Similar to opening a book in Skyrim or Oblivion.When an Npc gave you a mission a text appeared in the book, something similar to: "Tirdas, year 305, 3rd Era. Today I met an argonian named Stand-at-his-Toes who seemed really upset about a family heirloom. He asked me to visit a mage in Maar Gan, a hermit who no cares about the world. I must convince him to give me some information about Stand-at-his-Toes heirloom." That gaves us the quest giver, a clue about the objective, and who must we talk to. We could always return to that page in the journal and read it. When the quest advanced, some more messages appeared in the journal. "Loredas, year 305, 3rd Era. I've not found the mage in Maar Gan, but the tavern keeper said me where his shack was. I visited the place and it was not that abandoned as I expected, as if someone still lived there. A note on a hammock clarified me the mage identity." As yoy may have noticed, some words appeared in bold. That are recurrent topics and the journal tracks all the quests that have that topics in their text. At the end of the journal you could find and A-Z index to look for topics and quests. Edited December 2, 2011 by Zimnel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aprilius20 Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 Haven't played Morrowind but I like what you're saying. Heck, it would even make the bugs in the current journal forgivable to a certain extent... Dohvaakin: "Oh, I thought I found that Arcana Restored book already? Who was I supposed to give it to again? Oh well, guess I'll just leave it there..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markadis Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 (edited) Hey! I know this is an old thread, but I was hoping if anyone knew if there was one out yet? Or maybe even help me design something similar? The Journal idea stated above is a nice perk, but what I am really looking for is a better quest management system. Something along the lines of quests categorized by nearest city location, factions, or even general compass direction on the map (i.e. southeast corner of the map quests). Edited February 23, 2012 by Markadis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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cooltrickle Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 Hey! I know this is an old thread, but I was hoping if anyone knew if there was one out yet? Or maybe even help me design something similar? The Journal idea stated above is a nice perk, but what I am really looking for is a better quest management system. Something along the lines of quests categorized by nearest city location, factions, or even general compass direction on the map (i.e. southeast corner of the map quests). http://www.skyrimnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=11135 Edits quest objectives to give better descriptions of your next objective so you don't have to use the quest marker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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