Wiffleball Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 Hello, I recently built a new PC so I could run Skyrim better. I spent about $1,400 on it (Already had the peripherals) but Skyrim still seems a little unstable for my tastes, and I'll still CTD fairly often (several times each hour). I am playing on Ultra resolution (what the launcher detected from my video card by default... after buying a 1070 I would expect nothing less). My PC specs: GTX 1070Intel i5 640016 GB of ram My mod load order: 0 0 Skyrim.esm1 1 Update.esm2 2 Dawnguard.esm3 3 HearthFires.esm4 4 Dragonborn.esm5 5 Falskaar.esm6 6 Wyrmstooth.esp7 7 Campfire.esm8 8 ClimatesOfTamriel.esm9 9 notice board.esp10 a JSwords.esm11 b HighResTexturePack01.esp12 c HighResTexturePack02.esp13 d HighResTexturePack03.esp14 e NosPiercedEarsAll.esp15 f NB-Scars.esp16 10 ReadAndLearnSpeechcraft.esp17 11 SkyUI.esp18 12 WetandCold.esp19 13 WetandCold - Ashes.esp20 14 VioLens.esp21 15 Unique BOOZE Bottles.esp22 16 TKDodge.esp23 17 RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Falskaar.esp24 18 ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-2.esp25 19 ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp26 1a ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp27 1b iHUD.esp28 1c Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp29 1d Holds.esp30 1e Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Interiors.esp31 1f Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp32 20 AOS.esp33 21 PerkusMaximus_Master.esp34 22 Weapons & Armor_TrueOrcishWeapons.esp35 23 Weapons & Armor_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.esp36 24 Throwing_Weapons_Redux.esp37 25 RealisticWaterTwo.esp38 26 RealisticWaterTwo - Wyrmstooth.esp39 27 Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Exteriors.esp40 28 RealisticWaterTwo - Falskaar.esp41 29 Combat Evolved.esp42 2a PerkusMaximus_Warrior.esp43 2b PerkusMaximus_Thief.esp44 2c PerMa Expansion 1 - Wintermyst.esp45 2d PerkusMaximus_Mage.esp46 2e Throwing_Weapons_Redux_PerkTrees.esp47 2f Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dungeons.esp48 30 Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dawnguard Interiors.espClimatesOfTamriel-Dungeons-Hazardous.esp49 31 Dr_Bandolier.esp50 32 aMidianBorn_ContentAddon.esp51 33 AMB Glass Variants Lore.esp52 34 Differently Ebony.esp53 35 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp54 36 imp_helm_legend.esp55 37 Nightingale Armor Face Mask.esp56 38 aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp57 39 Skyrim Ladies - Astrid.esp58 3a AllThievesGuildJobsConcurrently.esp59 3b LocalizedGuildJobs.esp60 3c Thieves Guild Requirements.esp61 3d TheChoiceIsYours.esp62 3e Populated Dungeons Caves Ruins.esp63 3f ThievesGuildReq_LocalizedGuildJobs_Patch.esp64 40 RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp65 41 WarmongerArmory_Vanilla.esp66 42 WarmongerArmory_DLC.esp67 43 WarmongerArmory_LeveledList.esp68 44 Cloaks.esp69 45 SMIM-Merged-All.esp70 46 Frostfall.esp71 47 Populated Forts Towers Places.esp72 48 Populated Lands Roads Paths.esp73 49 RealisticWaterTwo - Waves.esp74 4a VariousGuardReplacer.esp75 4b Populated Cities Towns Villages.esp76 4c RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Wyrmstooth.esp77 4d Morning Fogs.esp78 4e Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Minor Cities and Town Interiors.esp79 4f RealisticWaterTwo - Dragonborn.esp80 50 Whiterun Ferns.espClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Cold.esp81 51 ImmersiveArmorsNPCs.esp82 52 More Interesting Loot for Skyrim.esp83 53 1nivWICCloaks.esp84 54 1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp85 55 FaceMasksOfSkyrim.esp86 56 Better Vampires.esp87 57 TTYM - Think to Yourself Messages.esp88 58 Predator Vision.esp89 59 Immersive Music Temples.esp90 5a Immersive Music.esp91 5b RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Dawnguard.esp92 5c RealisticWaterTwo - Dawnguard.esp93 5d Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp94 5e Illustrious HDT Cloaks.esp95 5f DVA - Dynamic Vampire Appearance.esp96 60 Brevi_MoonlightTales.esp97 61 notice board - dragonborn patch.esp98 62 Shadowblade.esp99 63 TheEyesOfBeauty.esp100 64 Weapons & Armor_FasterArrows.esp101 65 Weapons & Armor_DragonPriestMasks.esp102 66 AOS2_RealisticWaterTwo Patch.esp103 67 AOS2_WetandCold Patch.esp104 68 AOS2_CoT3_1_patch.esp105 69 AOS2_WAF Patch.esp106 6a KS Hairdos - HDT.esp107 6b Brows.esp108 6c Adrianne.esp109 6d The Ordinary Women.esp110 6e Carlotta.esp111 6f Gerdur.esp112 70 Hulda.esp113 71 Idgrod the younger.esp114 72 Ingun.esp115 73 Irileth.esp116 74 Karliah.esp117 75 Lisette.esp118 76 Maven.esp119 77 Rikke.esp120 78 Tonilia.esp121 79 Vex.esp122 7a Sapphire.esp123 7b Bijin Warmaidens.esp124 7c TMDawnguard.esp125 7d Serana.esp126 7e Skyrim Ladies - Aela.esp127 7f Bijin Wives.esp128 80 Brigandage.esp129 81 UltimateCombat.esp130 82 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp131 83 Alternate Start -- New Beginnings.esp132 84 PatchusMaximus.esp I've looked around for some optimization/stability tutorials but most seem to be made years ago when Skyrim was a newer game and GTX 780s+ were considered higher end. I would greatly appreciate any insight or recommendations, thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Reynard131 Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 (edited) Hello, I recently built a new PC so I could run Skyrim better. I spent about $1,400 on it (Already had the peripherals) but Skyrim still seems a little unstable for my tastes, and I'll still CTD fairly often (several times each hour). I am playing on Ultra resolution (what the launcher detected from my video card by default... after buying a 1070 I would expect nothing less). My PC specs: GTX 1070Intel i5 640016 GB of ram My mod load order: 0 0 Skyrim.esm1 1 Update.esm2 2 Dawnguard.esm3 3 HearthFires.esm4 4 Dragonborn.esm5 5 Falskaar.esm6 6 Wyrmstooth.esp7 7 Campfire.esm8 8 ClimatesOfTamriel.esm9 9 notice board.esp10 a JSwords.esm11 b HighResTexturePack01.esp12 c HighResTexturePack02.esp13 d HighResTexturePack03.esp14 e NosPiercedEarsAll.esp15 f NB-Scars.esp16 10 ReadAndLearnSpeechcraft.esp17 11 SkyUI.esp18 12 WetandCold.esp19 13 WetandCold - Ashes.esp20 14 VioLens.esp21 15 Unique BOOZE Bottles.esp22 16 TKDodge.esp23 17 RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Falskaar.esp24 18 ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-2.esp25 19 ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp26 1a ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp27 1b iHUD.esp28 1c Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp29 1d Holds.esp30 1e Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Interiors.esp31 1f Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp32 20 AOS.esp33 21 PerkusMaximus_Master.esp34 22 Weapons & Armor_TrueOrcishWeapons.esp35 23 Weapons & Armor_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.esp36 24 Throwing_Weapons_Redux.esp37 25 RealisticWaterTwo.esp38 26 RealisticWaterTwo - Wyrmstooth.esp39 27 Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Exteriors.esp40 28 RealisticWaterTwo - Falskaar.esp41 29 Combat Evolved.esp42 2a PerkusMaximus_Warrior.esp43 2b PerkusMaximus_Thief.esp44 2c PerMa Expansion 1 - Wintermyst.esp45 2d PerkusMaximus_Mage.esp46 2e Throwing_Weapons_Redux_PerkTrees.esp47 2f Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dungeons.esp48 30 Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dawnguard Interiors.espClimatesOfTamriel-Dungeons-Hazardous.esp49 31 Dr_Bandolier.esp50 32 aMidianBorn_ContentAddon.esp51 33 AMB Glass Variants Lore.esp52 34 Differently Ebony.esp53 35 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp54 36 imp_helm_legend.esp55 37 Nightingale Armor Face Mask.esp56 38 aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp57 39 Skyrim Ladies - Astrid.esp58 3a AllThievesGuildJobsConcurrently.esp59 3b LocalizedGuildJobs.esp60 3c Thieves Guild Requirements.esp61 3d TheChoiceIsYours.esp62 3e Populated Dungeons Caves Ruins.esp63 3f ThievesGuildReq_LocalizedGuildJobs_Patch.esp64 40 RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp65 41 WarmongerArmory_Vanilla.esp66 42 WarmongerArmory_DLC.esp67 43 WarmongerArmory_LeveledList.esp68 44 Cloaks.esp69 45 SMIM-Merged-All.esp70 46 Frostfall.esp71 47 Populated Forts Towers Places.esp72 48 Populated Lands Roads Paths.esp73 49 RealisticWaterTwo - Waves.esp74 4a VariousGuardReplacer.esp75 4b Populated Cities Towns Villages.esp76 4c RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Wyrmstooth.esp77 4d Morning Fogs.esp78 4e Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Minor Cities and Town Interiors.esp79 4f RealisticWaterTwo - Dragonborn.esp80 50 Whiterun Ferns.espClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Cold.esp81 51 ImmersiveArmorsNPCs.esp82 52 More Interesting Loot for Skyrim.esp83 53 1nivWICCloaks.esp84 54 1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp85 55 FaceMasksOfSkyrim.esp86 56 Better Vampires.esp87 57 TTYM - Think to Yourself Messages.esp88 58 Predator Vision.esp89 59 Immersive Music Temples.esp90 5a Immersive Music.esp91 5b RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Dawnguard.esp92 5c RealisticWaterTwo - Dawnguard.esp93 5d Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp94 5e Illustrious HDT Cloaks.esp95 5f DVA - Dynamic Vampire Appearance.esp96 60 Brevi_MoonlightTales.esp97 61 notice board - dragonborn patch.esp98 62 Shadowblade.esp99 63 TheEyesOfBeauty.esp100 64 Weapons & Armor_FasterArrows.esp101 65 Weapons & Armor_DragonPriestMasks.esp102 66 AOS2_RealisticWaterTwo Patch.esp103 67 AOS2_WetandCold Patch.esp104 68 AOS2_CoT3_1_patch.esp105 69 AOS2_WAF Patch.esp106 6a KS Hairdos - HDT.esp107 6b Brows.esp108 6c Adrianne.esp109 6d The Ordinary Women.esp110 6e Carlotta.esp111 6f Gerdur.esp112 70 Hulda.esp113 71 Idgrod the younger.esp114 72 Ingun.esp115 73 Irileth.esp116 74 Karliah.esp117 75 Lisette.esp118 76 Maven.esp119 77 Rikke.esp120 78 Tonilia.esp121 79 Vex.esp122 7a Sapphire.esp123 7b Bijin Warmaidens.esp124 7c TMDawnguard.esp125 7d Serana.esp126 7e Skyrim Ladies - Aela.esp127 7f Bijin Wives.esp128 80 Brigandage.esp129 81 UltimateCombat.esp130 82 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp131 83 Alternate Start -- New Beginnings.esp132 84 PatchusMaximus.esp I've looked around for some optimization/stability tutorials but most seem to be made years ago when Skyrim was a newer game and GTX 780s+ were considered higher end. I would greatly appreciate any insight or recommendations, thank you! You are just beginning to run into memory allocation issues at that level of mods, Follow step Wikipedia instructions for installation of ENB boost and SKSE.ini Shesons memory patch That should allow you to get up to 220 plug-ins or so as long as you use LOOT to sort your load order. Edited September 30, 2016 by Reynard131 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Project579 Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 (edited) Or do this: Download and install SKSE if you don't have it already; Remember to run the game trough skse_loader.exe from now on. Createa a file called skse.ini in Skyrim\Data\SKSE\ if you don't have it already, then write inside (remove other lines that might be inside the file): [General]ClearInvalidRegistrations=1EnableDiagnostics=1 ;<----you can leave this to 0 turn to 1 if debugging [Display]iTintTextureResolution=2048 [Debug]WriteMinidumps=1 ;<----you can leave this to 0 turn to 1 if debugging After that download and install Crash Fixes: http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/72725/? Download and install Bug Fixes as well: http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/76747/? After having installed it navigate to Skyrim\Data\SKSE\Pugins\CrashFixPlugin.ini Modify in CrashFixPlugin.ini UseOSAllocators=1 follow the instructions above this line to make it work. You will need to download and install SKSE Plugin Preloader Link: http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/75795/? ENB can be used without graphics modification (ENBoost) it will improve performance and stability, for more info visit http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/73618/? :First download the latest ENB ( http://enbdev.com/download_mod_tesskyrim.html ) in the archive, extract from the wrapper version: enbhost.exe, d3d9.dll, enblocal.ini and enbseries.ini to your Skyrim directory (where TESV.exe is located) In enblocal.ini edit: [GLOBAL]UsePatchSpeedhackWithoutGraphics=false ;<-----set this to true leave to false if you have an ENB.UseDefferedRendering=trueIgnoreCreationKit=trueForceFakeVideocard=false [MEMORY]ExpandSystemMemoryX64=false ;<-----make sure this is set to false is obsolete and will interfere with Crash Fixes or SKSE memory patch (causes crashes especially in Win10)ReduceSystemMemoryUsage=trueDisableDriverMemoryManager=false ;<---------set to true for old AMD GPUs.DisablePreloadToVRAM=falseEnableUnsafeMemoryHacks=false ;<------make sure this is set to false only works when ExpandSystemMemoryX64=true as previously sad this only causes problemsReservedMemorySizeMb=64 ;<-----if using an ENB you know what goes here otherwise increase if you experience some stutter.VideoMemorySizeMb=4064 ;<-----Users should download and run Boris's VRamSizeTest tool. Run the VRamSizeDX9.exe. Windows 7 users subtract 170 from the value provided and use that value. Windows 8/8.1/10 users use the value provided. If AutodetectVideoMemorySize=true this value is ignored and auto-calculated.AutodetectVideoMemorySize=false ;<-----set this to true if you want auto VRAM size calculation If you feel like skse or Crash Fixes are not working correctly create a shortcut with this argument and launch the game from it (if you are on ModOrganizer add to the SKSE executable the -forcesteamloader argument): You are missing the Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch Link: http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/71214/? Edited September 30, 2016 by Project579 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiffleball Posted September 30, 2016 Author Share Posted September 30, 2016 You are just beginning to run into memory allocation issues at that level of mods, Follow step Wikipedia instructions for installation of ENB boost and SKSE.ini Shesons memory patch That should allow you to get up to 220 plug-ins or so as long as you use LOOT to sort your load order. Thanks I'll give that a look! Or do this: Download and install SKSE if you don't have it already; Remember to run the game trough skse_loader.exe from now on. *wizardry* You are missing the Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch Link: http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/71214/? I'm not new to modding, just out of the loop for about 9 months while I finished college. I'm familiar with LOOT and even started getting familiar with TES5Edit over the past several days. I do run the game through SKSE, and I have USLEEP installed under my mods tab but for some reason it isn't showing up in my plugins. Another odd thing happened as I was playing/troubleshooting today. I experienced a CTD and I checked NMM and my Skyrim.esm and Update.esm had become unchecked and I had to re verify the integrity of my game cache via Steam. Thank you very much! You explain the optimization a lot better than my previous source (I was having difficulty finding the UseOSAllocators line in the CrashFixPlugin.ini. I even did a ctrl+F search and turned up nothing and thats why I stopped going down that avenue and reinstalled my game. If that line still isn't there should I add it to the .ini file? Thanks again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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