Big changes for the Nexus Mod Manager and the introduction of Tannin42, our new head of NMM development

[ScrubGhost]

In response to post #43389245. #43391895, #43394075, #43413580, #43418170, #43421690, #43422755, #43423015, #43433395, #43435465, #43445355, #43447505, #43461630 are all replies on the same post.

shizitmonkey wrote: Before I buy a game I see if it has files on NMM.. no files no sale.. the other game developers besides Bethesda should take note..
I am 60years old, love video games and don't know squat about modding. That's why I love NMM..
Also thank you all you talented smarties for making such awesome mods...

louiethelooper wrote: i would like to ditto to shizitmonkey- am also 60,thank god i was feeling lonely here. and also dont know jack of modding and depend on this site for this type of gaming exp.We might the exception to the rule but keep us in mind and thank you for this awesome site.

tanyferan wrote: ditto im 64 and agree with the above comments

Kroekr wrote: I am a young whippersnapper at 56 but I agree with shizitmonkey

smith1999 wrote: 60 in June, I believe that this hobby is a great way to enjoy retirement and am gratefull for all the talented people on this site.

Sergeant Rock wrote: Wow! All this time I thought I was an old codger here at 55! Nice to know other people my age still enjoy gaming. I have lot's of younger friends that game but only a couple near my age that still do. Anyway totally agree with you... thanks modders!

RodelB wrote: I am 51 now would this be far too young to join your society? Well I agree to what shizitmonkey said and I would like to add that in my opinion what Nexus provides is on a high level of professionalism anyway

tonycubed2 wrote: Damn. I am 50. And I mod like hell. I feel young now. We should form a Guild. The Golden Age.

But no, I cannot say I love NMM. It has over reached and caused much pain with its useless multi profile features. And I nver had a problem report acknoledged.

I am grateful for Nexus. And for NMM. But it needs to now its limits and stop trying to uninstall and reinstall 240 mods to change profiles. Here is my nexus site full of horror stories:

http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/70019/?

brown1962 wrote: 54 years old and only got into gaming because of Fallout 3, when I saw a friend play it. Now I have spent all my spare cash on a good gaming rig and laptop, so I can carry on playing in my work breaks. Anything that helps me download and add mods easily is definitely worth it. Can't wait to see the new manager/organiser and don't care what it's called. Here's to all the other "Silver Gamers" out there............Keep up the good work, after all "Age is only a number"!

mwhenry16 wrote: I'm 60, love gaming, my 22 year old daughter was banging a keyboard playing before she could walk, I know a little about modding, and I too love NMM. It's nice to know there are many boomers here too, hoo rah!

nickrud wrote: 60 here, but also a devoted user of MO for Skyrim (programming 6502 in the 80's prepared me for it ;).

Tannin probably won't see this but I dropped $50 into his paypal years ago - more than I paid for skyrim. I was one of those who feared that he'd hit the dreaded project killing bug when his commits to MO2 dried up in July.

Kudos to Nexus for paying him a lot more than I can!

dePog wrote: I am also 60 and Skyrim is the first game I have played with mods. I even bit the bullet and started to create some mods despite the "joys" of the amazingly unstable Creation Kit :) Even though I can code in several languages it took a while to wrap my head around Papyrus.

I have used NMM since the release of Skyrim and love its simplicity. Looking forward to the new one.

Cheers
dePog

HadToRegister wrote: 53 here.
I once learned PASCAL in college, back in '94, don't remember any of it though.
Started gaming on the C64, then migrated to Atari STE1040, because of the UI and built in MIDI ports, eventually moving to PC.

I'm 46 and my old man is 70 something and he started modding skyrim and is now into fallout 4. There is a lot of people who started decades ago and continue on. As gopher says "have fun"!

[Totalstupidity]

Shame it took so long. Steam Workshop is killing modding and sites like Nexus are dying. I'm on the Stellaris mod Nexus right now and there's seriously only 4 or 5 mods. TW Warhammer Nexus only had 3 last I checked. No doubt Valve is planning totake over the modding scene so they can monetize modding again and kill off PC gaming. Dark days we live in where people are so easily herded like cattle by corporations. Edited October 22, 2016 by Totalstupidity

[graymaybe]

MO is a great tool, and I'm glad he'll be able to put more work into it, but... IDK about anyone else, but I've found that the virtualization it does, instead of installing directly to the data folder, made Fallout 4 very unstable for me. I used to have so many crashes, but when I decided to just manually install everything, pretty much everything cleared up.

 

Somewhere down the line, do you think there will ever be an option to handle installs more like Wrye Bash did -- that is, direct to the data folder, but with the 'anneal' option?

[Ianana]

In response to post #43466325.

graymaybe wrote: MO is a great tool, and I'm glad he'll be able to put more work into it, but... IDK about anyone else, but I've found that the virtualization it does, instead of installing directly to the data folder, made Fallout 4 very unstable for me. I used to have so many crashes, but when I decided to just manually install everything, pretty much everything cleared up.

Somewhere down the line, do you think there will ever be an option to handle installs more like Wrye Bash did -- that is, direct to the data folder, but with the 'anneal' option?

Posted wrong spot. But I agree with you on Wrye Bash. I still use that. Edited October 22, 2016 by Ianana

[Ianana]

In response to post #43389245. #43391895, #43394075, #43413580, #43418170, #43421690, #43422755, #43423015, #43433395, #43435465, #43445355, #43447505, #43461630, #43463345 are all replies on the same post.

shizitmonkey wrote: Before I buy a game I see if it has files on NMM.. no files no sale.. the other game developers besides Bethesda should take note..
I am 60years old, love video games and don't know squat about modding. That's why I love NMM..
Also thank you all you talented smarties for making such awesome mods...

louiethelooper wrote: i would like to ditto to shizitmonkey- am also 60,thank god i was feeling lonely here. and also dont know jack of modding and depend on this site for this type of gaming exp.We might the exception to the rule but keep us in mind and thank you for this awesome site.

tanyferan wrote: ditto im 64 and agree with the above comments

Kroekr wrote: I am a young whippersnapper at 56 but I agree with shizitmonkey

smith1999 wrote: 60 in June, I believe that this hobby is a great way to enjoy retirement and am gratefull for all the talented people on this site.

Sergeant Rock wrote: Wow! All this time I thought I was an old codger here at 55! Nice to know other people my age still enjoy gaming. I have lot's of younger friends that game but only a couple near my age that still do. Anyway totally agree with you... thanks modders!

RodelB wrote: I am 51 now would this be far too young to join your society? Well I agree to what shizitmonkey said and I would like to add that in my opinion what Nexus provides is on a high level of professionalism anyway

tonycubed2 wrote: Damn. I am 50. And I mod like hell. I feel young now. We should form a Guild. The Golden Age.

But no, I cannot say I love NMM. It has over reached and caused much pain with its useless multi profile features. And I nver had a problem report acknoledged.

I am grateful for Nexus. And for NMM. But it needs to now its limits and stop trying to uninstall and reinstall 240 mods to change profiles. Here is my nexus site full of horror stories:

http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/70019/?

brown1962 wrote: 54 years old and only got into gaming because of Fallout 3, when I saw a friend play it. Now I have spent all my spare cash on a good gaming rig and laptop, so I can carry on playing in my work breaks. Anything that helps me download and add mods easily is definitely worth it. Can't wait to see the new manager/organiser and don't care what it's called. Here's to all the other "Silver Gamers" out there............Keep up the good work, after all "Age is only a number"!

mwhenry16 wrote: I'm 60, love gaming, my 22 year old daughter was banging a keyboard playing before she could walk, I know a little about modding, and I too love NMM. It's nice to know there are many boomers here too, hoo rah!

nickrud wrote: 60 here, but also a devoted user of MO for Skyrim (programming 6502 in the 80's prepared me for it ;).

Tannin probably won't see this but I dropped $50 into his paypal years ago - more than I paid for skyrim. I was one of those who feared that he'd hit the dreaded project killing bug when his commits to MO2 dried up in July.

Kudos to Nexus for paying him a lot more than I can!

dePog wrote: I am also 60 and Skyrim is the first game I have played with mods. I even bit the bullet and started to create some mods despite the "joys" of the amazingly unstable Creation Kit :) Even though I can code in several languages it took a while to wrap my head around Papyrus.

I have used NMM since the release of Skyrim and love its simplicity. Looking forward to the new one.

Cheers
dePog

HadToRegister wrote: 53 here.
I once learned PASCAL in college, back in '94, don't remember any of it though.
Started gaming on the C64, then migrated to Atari STE1040, because of the UI and built in MIDI ports, eventually moving to PC.

ScrubGhost wrote: I'm 46 and my old man is 70 something and he started modding skyrim and is now into fallout 4. There is a lot of people who started decades ago and continue on. As gopher says "have fun"!

Added this to a wrong post, oops.

I'm going to be 60 in May of 2017 and female. So yeah, there a lots of us. I always was looked at by my kids friends and the weird mom who games like a kid.

I still have OBMM and FOMM from Timeslip on my older secondary gaming computer and I still use Wrye Bash on all my computers in various versions depending on my game. All along with NMM in 2 flavors. I have 5.6 installed on my older gamer because it works for a heavily modded Oblivion install that I have no intention of reinstalling and also for another earlier install of Skyrim.

I use NMM 6.3 for F04 and 5.6 for Skyrim on my newer gamer for same reasons as above.

I am a bit crazy because I use both NMM and Wrye for F04 management. I can't help it old habits die hard with this old gal. There was nothing so wonderful as a heavily modded Obilvion using Wrye bashed patch and challenging the 255 limits. Gee do I miss tlhe simplicity of that. Right click-merge. CBash was my friend.

Never used MO, but it did have interesting promise.

Now if NMM could also show us like in Wrye the installers screen with information on the mod installation itself, well I would be jumping up and down. NMM needs this for mod triaging when crap goes sideways. I like seeing the files with folder structure. Yeah, call me old gal, but it works. Oh, Yeah a saves tab too, need this.

[nanashi50]

In response to post #43466325. #43469585 is also a reply to the same post.

graymaybe wrote: MO is a great tool, and I'm glad he'll be able to put more work into it, but... IDK about anyone else, but I've found that the virtualization it does, instead of installing directly to the data folder, made Fallout 4 very unstable for me. I used to have so many crashes, but when I decided to just manually install everything, pretty much everything cleared up.

Somewhere down the line, do you think there will ever be an option to handle installs more like Wrye Bash did -- that is, direct to the data folder, but with the 'anneal' option?

Ianana wrote: Posted wrong spot. But I agree with you on Wrye Bash. I still use that.

I'm pretty sure the virtualization is the main reason people use MO.

As for your problems with FO4, the MO version for FO4 is not considered stable so that's probably the cause of the problems.

The version for Skyrim is stable and I haven't had any issues. It's the recommended application by STEP for a reason. Edited October 22, 2016 by nanashi50

[skydivesiu]

This is AWESOME news! Can't wait for the new mod manager. I LOVE MO. And Tannin42 was great at supporting it. I am so excited to see what you guys come up with. One downside here is that you just set expectations ridiculously high! Seriously, this thing better auto sort (via LOOT) my load order, and read my mind on exactly what mods I want to be installed, then go install them while making the game more stable, and pouring me a beer.

 

But for real, focus on the user experience in addition to the features. A good professional there is almost invaluable (coming from an engineer in product design responsible for corporate technology strategy in a huge consumer goods company, this matters. Also, you have our stuff in your house).

 

Is there any forum for feature requests from the community? Imagine if you got 1 great request out of every 1000, with your active community, you would have a pretty damn good feature list.

[chuckles0000]

In response to post #43464375. #43465190 is also a reply to the same post.

Totalstupidity wrote: Shame it took so long. Steam Workshop is killing modding and sites like Nexus are dying. I'm on the Stellaris mod Nexus right now and there's seriously only 4 or 5 mods. TW Warhammer Nexus only had 3 last I checked. No doubt Valve is planning totake over the modding scene so they can monetize modding again and kill off PC gaming. Dark days we live in where people are so easily herded like cattle by corporations.

Ethreon wrote: You're definitely worth your name.

Steams mod workshop is falling apart in terms of usability.

[vile8er]

This is great news! It is great for Nexus, NMM and the modding community overall. However, some of us have been testing out alpha and beta builds of Mod Organizer v2 for nearly a year. To hear that the testing and bug reporting we did was all for naught, feels like a kick in the nuts. I would still like to see a stable version 2 released someday.

 

Congrats, Tannin

[onart]

I was happily playing with it yesterday til Skyrim crashed and NMM would not load anymore ("has stopped working"). Same time as steam update occurred. This happened before so I rebooted and...NMM still doesn't start anymore - I somehow have the feeling that it has to do with the steam update? But anywise, any help from above?