Big changes for the Nexus Mod Manager and the introduction of Tannin42, our new head of NMM development

[tengoku18]

In response to post #43440950. #43443175 is also a reply to the same post.

tengoku18 wrote: I updated my Nexus Mod Manager and it deleted all of my mods. Worse yet, when I download my mods it doesn't add to my list. This doesn't make me very happy losing almost of my mods.

khmp wrote: Do you see any of the mods you downloaded when you view your mods folder? I'd find out where they are being downloaded to first. Then ensure the specific settings for your game (the fourth tab in the Settings window) are all correct. Hope that helps even a little and you figure out where the wires got crossed.

Yeah, in the folder where they are at I see them, but in the nexus mod manager there's only seven that I see. But like I said, when I try to redownload them, they aren't to my nexus mod manager. I uninstalled and reinstalled with no solutions.

[HadToRegister]

In response to post #43440950. #43443175, #43445555 are all replies on the same post.

tengoku18 wrote: I updated my Nexus Mod Manager and it deleted all of my mods. Worse yet, when I download my mods it doesn't add to my list. This doesn't make me very happy losing almost of my mods.

khmp wrote: Do you see any of the mods you downloaded when you view your mods folder? I'd find out where they are being downloaded to first. Then ensure the specific settings for your game (the fourth tab in the Settings window) are all correct. Hope that helps even a little and you figure out where the wires got crossed.

tengoku18 wrote: Yeah, in the folder where they are at I see them, but in the nexus mod manager there's only seven that I see. But like I said, when I try to redownload them, they aren't to my nexus mod manager. I uninstalled and reinstalled with no solutions.

This isn't a troubleshooting thread.

However, for some stupid reason, the latest version of NMM forces categories down your throat.
Your mods aren't deleted, they've been re-categorized AGAINST YOUR WILL, so you need to pick the option "CATEGORIES: Update and reset to Nexus site defaults" then your mods should all reappear, THEN, (if you like the all uncategorized , which seems like the majority does), then pick "CATEGORIES: reset all mods to unassigned" (IF you had all your mods unassigned)

Also, you're not being notified that mods that already exist are being downloaded, because for whatever reason, the DEV decided to remove the Overwrite Dialog, that notifies you if you're already downloading a mod you already have, which was one of the WORST design decisions EVER MADE, because what happens is
1. NMM makes you think it deleted ALL of your mods
2. When you try to redownload them NMM doesn't TELL you that you're trying to overwrite Mods it never deleted, so it makes you think it's doing absolutely NOTHING.

TWO, extremely poor design decisions, to re-categorize everybody's load order WITHOUT NOTIFYING THEM, then to make them think they need to redownload all the mods, they thought were deleted, and then NOT NOTIFY THEM THEY'RE DOWNLOADING AND OVERWRITING THE SAME MOD.

To make such a drastic change like this in NMM, and then just put the updated version available for download, while not even mentioning the drastic crap it's going to do to all of your mods UNTIL THE UPDATE SCREEN THAT YOU CAN'T CANCEL OUT OF, is pretty bad.

Had I known that the new version was just going to completely destroy all of the load orders I had in place for all of my games, I would've NEVER updated.


Edited October 22, 2016 by HadToRegister

[dePog]

In response to post #43389245. #43391895, #43394075, #43413580, #43418170, #43421690, #43422755, #43423015, #43433395, #43435465, #43445355 are all replies on the same post.

shizitmonkey wrote: Before I buy a game I see if it has files on NMM.. no files no sale.. the other game developers besides Bethesda should take note..
I am 60years old, love video games and don't know squat about modding. That's why I love NMM..
Also thank you all you talented smarties for making such awesome mods...

louiethelooper wrote: i would like to ditto to shizitmonkey- am also 60,thank god i was feeling lonely here. and also dont know jack of modding and depend on this site for this type of gaming exp.We might the exception to the rule but keep us in mind and thank you for this awesome site.

tanyferan wrote: ditto im 64 and agree with the above comments

Kroekr wrote: I am a young whippersnapper at 56 but I agree with shizitmonkey

smith1999 wrote: 60 in June, I believe that this hobby is a great way to enjoy retirement and am gratefull for all the talented people on this site.

Sergeant Rock wrote: Wow! All this time I thought I was an old codger here at 55! Nice to know other people my age still enjoy gaming. I have lot's of younger friends that game but only a couple near my age that still do. Anyway totally agree with you... thanks modders!

RodelB wrote: I am 51 now would this be far too young to join your society? Well I agree to what shizitmonkey said and I would like to add that in my opinion what Nexus provides is on a high level of professionalism anyway

tonycubed2 wrote: Damn. I am 50. And I mod like hell. I feel young now. We should form a Guild. The Golden Age.

But no, I cannot say I love NMM. It has over reached and caused much pain with its useless multi profile features. And I nver had a problem report acknoledged.

I am grateful for Nexus. And for NMM. But it needs to now its limits and stop trying to uninstall and reinstall 240 mods to change profiles. Here is my nexus site full of horror stories:

http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/70019/?

brown1962 wrote: 54 years old and only got into gaming because of Fallout 3, when I saw a friend play it. Now I have spent all my spare cash on a good gaming rig and laptop, so I can carry on playing in my work breaks. Anything that helps me download and add mods easily is definitely worth it. Can't wait to see the new manager/organiser and don't care what it's called. Here's to all the other "Silver Gamers" out there............Keep up the good work, after all "Age is only a number"!

mwhenry16 wrote: I'm 60, love gaming, my 22 year old daughter was banging a keyboard playing before she could walk, I know a little about modding, and I too love NMM. It's nice to know there are many boomers here too, hoo rah!

nickrud wrote: 60 here, but also a devoted user of MO for Skyrim (programming 6502 in the 80's prepared me for it ;).

Tannin probably won't see this but I dropped $50 into his paypal years ago - more than I paid for skyrim. I was one of those who feared that he'd hit the dreaded project killing bug when his commits to MO2 dried up in July.

Kudos to Nexus for paying him a lot more than I can!

I am also 60 and Skyrim is the first game I have played with mods. I even bit the bullet and started to create some mods despite the "joys" of the amazingly unstable Creation Kit :) Even though I can code in several languages it took a while to wrap my head around Papyrus.

I have used NMM since the release of Skyrim and love its simplicity. Looking forward to the new one.

Cheers
dePog

[HunterAP]

This is awesome news! I can't wait to see what the new mod manager looks like.

[tengoku18]

In response to post #43440950. #43443175, #43445555, #43447145 are all replies on the same post.

tengoku18 wrote: I updated my Nexus Mod Manager and it deleted all of my mods. Worse yet, when I download my mods it doesn't add to my list. This doesn't make me very happy losing almost of my mods.

khmp wrote: Do you see any of the mods you downloaded when you view your mods folder? I'd find out where they are being downloaded to first. Then ensure the specific settings for your game (the fourth tab in the Settings window) are all correct. Hope that helps even a little and you figure out where the wires got crossed.

tengoku18 wrote: Yeah, in the folder where they are at I see them, but in the nexus mod manager there's only seven that I see. But like I said, when I try to redownload them, they aren't to my nexus mod manager. I uninstalled and reinstalled with no solutions.

HadToRegister wrote: This isn't a troubleshooting thread.

However, for some stupid reason, the latest version of NMM forces categories down your throat.
Your mods aren't deleted, they've been re-categorized AGAINST YOUR WILL, so you need to pick the option "CATEGORIES: Update and reset to Nexus site defaults" then your mods should all reappear, THEN, (if you like the all uncategorized , which seems like the majority does), then pick "CATEGORIES: reset all mods to unassigned" (IF you had all your mods unassigned)

Also, you're not being notified that mods that already exist are being downloaded, because for whatever reason, the DEV decided to remove the Overwrite Dialog, that notifies you if you're already downloading a mod you already have, which was one of the WORST design decisions EVER MADE, because what happens is
1. NMM makes you think it deleted ALL of your mods
2. When you try to redownload them NMM doesn't TELL you that you're trying to overwrite Mods it never deleted, so it makes you think it's doing absolutely NOTHING.

TWO, extremely poor design decisions, to re-categorize everybody's load order WITHOUT NOTIFYING THEM, then to make them think they need to redownload all the mods, they thought were deleted, and then NOT NOTIFY THEM THEY'RE DOWNLOADING AND OVERWRITING THE SAME MOD.

To make such a drastic change like this in NMM, and then just put the updated version available for download, while not even mentioning the drastic crap it's going to do to all of your mods UNTIL THE UPDATE SCREEN THAT YOU CAN'T CANCEL OUT OF, is pretty bad.

Had I known that the new version was just going to completely destroy all of the load orders I had in place for all of my games, I would've NEVER updated.

Thanks for your help, this is why I'm cautious of updates you never know entirely what's going to be changed until after you get it. I think I won't be updating my NMM in the future, learned my mistake.

[tengoku18]

In response to post #43440950. #43443175, #43445555, #43447145, #43448220 are all replies on the same post.

tengoku18 wrote: I updated my Nexus Mod Manager and it deleted all of my mods. Worse yet, when I download my mods it doesn't add to my list. This doesn't make me very happy losing almost of my mods.

khmp wrote: Do you see any of the mods you downloaded when you view your mods folder? I'd find out where they are being downloaded to first. Then ensure the specific settings for your game (the fourth tab in the Settings window) are all correct. Hope that helps even a little and you figure out where the wires got crossed.

tengoku18 wrote: Yeah, in the folder where they are at I see them, but in the nexus mod manager there's only seven that I see. But like I said, when I try to redownload them, they aren't to my nexus mod manager. I uninstalled and reinstalled with no solutions.

HadToRegister wrote: This isn't a troubleshooting thread.

However, for some stupid reason, the latest version of NMM forces categories down your throat.
Your mods aren't deleted, they've been re-categorized AGAINST YOUR WILL, so you need to pick the option "CATEGORIES: Update and reset to Nexus site defaults" then your mods should all reappear, THEN, (if you like the all uncategorized , which seems like the majority does), then pick "CATEGORIES: reset all mods to unassigned" (IF you had all your mods unassigned)

Also, you're not being notified that mods that already exist are being downloaded, because for whatever reason, the DEV decided to remove the Overwrite Dialog, that notifies you if you're already downloading a mod you already have, which was one of the WORST design decisions EVER MADE, because what happens is
1. NMM makes you think it deleted ALL of your mods
2. When you try to redownload them NMM doesn't TELL you that you're trying to overwrite Mods it never deleted, so it makes you think it's doing absolutely NOTHING.

TWO, extremely poor design decisions, to re-categorize everybody's load order WITHOUT NOTIFYING THEM, then to make them think they need to redownload all the mods, they thought were deleted, and then NOT NOTIFY THEM THEY'RE DOWNLOADING AND OVERWRITING THE SAME MOD.

To make such a drastic change like this in NMM, and then just put the updated version available for download, while not even mentioning the drastic crap it's going to do to all of your mods UNTIL THE UPDATE SCREEN THAT YOU CAN'T CANCEL OUT OF, is pretty bad.

Had I known that the new version was just going to completely destroy all of the load orders I had in place for all of my games, I would've NEVER updated.

tengoku18 wrote: Thanks for your help, this is why I'm cautious of updates you never know entirely what's going to be changed until after you get it. I think I won't be updating my NMM in the future, learned my mistake.

I'll just have to manually install mods like how I used to, I really wish I didn't update.

[ssuamier]

In response to post #43440950. #43443175, #43445555, #43447145, #43448220, #43448525 are all replies on the same post.

tengoku18 wrote: I updated my Nexus Mod Manager and it deleted all of my mods. Worse yet, when I download my mods it doesn't add to my list. This doesn't make me very happy losing almost of my mods.

khmp wrote: Do you see any of the mods you downloaded when you view your mods folder? I'd find out where they are being downloaded to first. Then ensure the specific settings for your game (the fourth tab in the Settings window) are all correct. Hope that helps even a little and you figure out where the wires got crossed.

tengoku18 wrote: Yeah, in the folder where they are at I see them, but in the nexus mod manager there's only seven that I see. But like I said, when I try to redownload them, they aren't to my nexus mod manager. I uninstalled and reinstalled with no solutions.

HadToRegister wrote: This isn't a troubleshooting thread.

However, for some stupid reason, the latest version of NMM forces categories down your throat.
Your mods aren't deleted, they've been re-categorized AGAINST YOUR WILL, so you need to pick the option "CATEGORIES: Update and reset to Nexus site defaults" then your mods should all reappear, THEN, (if you like the all uncategorized , which seems like the majority does), then pick "CATEGORIES: reset all mods to unassigned" (IF you had all your mods unassigned)

Also, you're not being notified that mods that already exist are being downloaded, because for whatever reason, the DEV decided to remove the Overwrite Dialog, that notifies you if you're already downloading a mod you already have, which was one of the WORST design decisions EVER MADE, because what happens is
1. NMM makes you think it deleted ALL of your mods
2. When you try to redownload them NMM doesn't TELL you that you're trying to overwrite Mods it never deleted, so it makes you think it's doing absolutely NOTHING.

TWO, extremely poor design decisions, to re-categorize everybody's load order WITHOUT NOTIFYING THEM, then to make them think they need to redownload all the mods, they thought were deleted, and then NOT NOTIFY THEM THEY'RE DOWNLOADING AND OVERWRITING THE SAME MOD.

To make such a drastic change like this in NMM, and then just put the updated version available for download, while not even mentioning the drastic crap it's going to do to all of your mods UNTIL THE UPDATE SCREEN THAT YOU CAN'T CANCEL OUT OF, is pretty bad.

Had I known that the new version was just going to completely destroy all of the load orders I had in place for all of my games, I would've NEVER updated.

tengoku18 wrote: Thanks for your help, this is why I'm cautious of updates you never know entirely what's going to be changed until after you get it. I think I won't be updating my NMM in the future, learned my mistake.

tengoku18 wrote: I'll just have to manually install mods like how I used to, I really wish I didn't update.

Try out TMM (TesModManager), life saver for manually installed skyrim. It's more like the old NMM but much more stable and more powerful IMO. (Nexus 5010). It's not perfect and free of issues but stable.

[NightmareBlade10]

This is cool! I'm actually very excited for this! And I'm also glad you guys are still going to working on bug fixes for NMM, thanks for all the work you guys do!

[HadToRegister]

In response to post #43389245. #43391895, #43394075, #43413580, #43418170, #43421690, #43422755, #43423015, #43433395, #43435465, #43445355, #43447505 are all replies on the same post.

shizitmonkey wrote: Before I buy a game I see if it has files on NMM.. no files no sale.. the other game developers besides Bethesda should take note..
I am 60years old, love video games and don't know squat about modding. That's why I love NMM..
Also thank you all you talented smarties for making such awesome mods...

louiethelooper wrote: i would like to ditto to shizitmonkey- am also 60,thank god i was feeling lonely here. and also dont know jack of modding and depend on this site for this type of gaming exp.We might the exception to the rule but keep us in mind and thank you for this awesome site.

tanyferan wrote: ditto im 64 and agree with the above comments

Kroekr wrote: I am a young whippersnapper at 56 but I agree with shizitmonkey

smith1999 wrote: 60 in June, I believe that this hobby is a great way to enjoy retirement and am gratefull for all the talented people on this site.

Sergeant Rock wrote: Wow! All this time I thought I was an old codger here at 55! Nice to know other people my age still enjoy gaming. I have lot's of younger friends that game but only a couple near my age that still do. Anyway totally agree with you... thanks modders!

RodelB wrote: I am 51 now would this be far too young to join your society? Well I agree to what shizitmonkey said and I would like to add that in my opinion what Nexus provides is on a high level of professionalism anyway

tonycubed2 wrote: Damn. I am 50. And I mod like hell. I feel young now. We should form a Guild. The Golden Age.

But no, I cannot say I love NMM. It has over reached and caused much pain with its useless multi profile features. And I nver had a problem report acknoledged.

I am grateful for Nexus. And for NMM. But it needs to now its limits and stop trying to uninstall and reinstall 240 mods to change profiles. Here is my nexus site full of horror stories:

http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/70019/?

brown1962 wrote: 54 years old and only got into gaming because of Fallout 3, when I saw a friend play it. Now I have spent all my spare cash on a good gaming rig and laptop, so I can carry on playing in my work breaks. Anything that helps me download and add mods easily is definitely worth it. Can't wait to see the new manager/organiser and don't care what it's called. Here's to all the other "Silver Gamers" out there............Keep up the good work, after all "Age is only a number"!

mwhenry16 wrote: I'm 60, love gaming, my 22 year old daughter was banging a keyboard playing before she could walk, I know a little about modding, and I too love NMM. It's nice to know there are many boomers here too, hoo rah!

nickrud wrote: 60 here, but also a devoted user of MO for Skyrim (programming 6502 in the 80's prepared me for it ;).

Tannin probably won't see this but I dropped $50 into his paypal years ago - more than I paid for skyrim. I was one of those who feared that he'd hit the dreaded project killing bug when his commits to MO2 dried up in July.

Kudos to Nexus for paying him a lot more than I can!

dePog wrote: I am also 60 and Skyrim is the first game I have played with mods. I even bit the bullet and started to create some mods despite the "joys" of the amazingly unstable Creation Kit :) Even though I can code in several languages it took a while to wrap my head around Papyrus.

I have used NMM since the release of Skyrim and love its simplicity. Looking forward to the new one.

Cheers
dePog

53 here.
I once learned PASCAL in college, back in '94, don't remember any of it though.
Started gaming on the C64, then migrated to Atari STE1040, because of the UI and built in MIDI ports, eventually moving to PC.
Edited October 22, 2016 by HadToRegister

[ScrubGhost]

Good luck and thank you