Stormcloak Rebellion Vs. Empire

[RavveN]

Hey boys'n'girls :teehee:

 

I have these thoughts that parallel my own mind! :psyduck: I wish to see if is forum for Stormcloaks or Imperials...So let's see... it's public poll so everyone can vote. ^__^

 

Death to the Imperials! :sweat:

 

-RavveN-

Edited December 13, 2011 by RavveN

[gofortheko]

Where is the neither button!!!

[RavveN]

Where is the neither button!!!

 

Either you are true son of Skyrim or you are a traitor...Nothing else :whistling:

[modder3434]

"Down with Ulfric, the killer of kings...on the day of your death we will dance and will sing" :tongue:

 

United the Empire will stand and rise again, or divided it will fall and come to ruin

[RavveN]

"Down with Ulfric, the killer of kings...on the day of your death we will dance and will sing" :tongue:

 

United the Empire will stand and rise again, or divided it will fall and come to ruin

 

I will be watching you, "Imperial"... :ninja:

[gofortheko]

I voted for imperials, since I was forced to be against Ulfric the racist. I would rather pick a well established and known tyranny than a new tyrant of which you have no clue what he will do.

[ufw7]

"Down with Ulfric, the killer of kings...on the day of your death we will dance and will sing" :tongue:

 

United the Empire will stand and rise again, or divided it will fall and come to ruin

 

 

United?? they are already divided (you should read the lore)

• The Empire is now a shadow of its former glory. Valenwood and Elsweyr had been ceded to the Thalmor, Black Marsh had been lost to Imperial rule since the Oblivion Crisis, Morrowind had yet to fully recover from the eruption of Red Mountain, and Hammerfell was plagued by infighting between the Crown and Forbear factions. Only High Rock, Cyrodiil, and Skyrim remained prosperous and peaceful.
• After Titus II rejects an ultimatum to make massive concessions to the Thalmor, Aldmeri armies invade. An army led by Thalmor general Lord Naarifin emerges from hidden camps in northern Elsweyr and assaults southern Cyrodiil, flanking Imperial defenses along the Valenwood border. Leyawiin falls to the invaders, and Bravil is surrounded and besieged. Simultaneously, an army under Lady Arannelya crosses western Cyrodiil, bypassing Anvil and Kvatch and entering Hammerfell. This army is joined by smaller forces landing on Hammerfell's coast. Imperial troops are forced into retreat across the Alik'r Desert.
• Titus II flees north from the city, smashing through the surrounding Aldmeri forces with his main army and linking up with reinforcements heading south from Skyrim under General Jonna. The Imperial City falls to the invaders. The Imperial Palace is burned, White-Gold Tower is looted, and the Aldmeri commit many atrocities against the defenseless populace.
• The Imperial City is retaken and Titus II's decision to withdraw from it the previous year is vindicated. Despite this resounding victory, however, the Empire is exhausted and unable to continue the war. Realizing this, Titus II seeks to negotiate with the Aldmeri Dominion to end the war.
• The Concordat is a peace treaty between the Empire and the Aldmeri Dominion. The terms of treaty gave the Thalmor free rein to stamp out the worship of Talos throughout the Empire, and ceded a large section of southern Hammerfell. Critics note that these terms are almost identical to the ultimatum that Titus II rejected at the start of the war.
• Titus II renounces Hammerfell as a province of the Empire to preserve the treaty after the Redguards oppose ceding their lands. The Redguards see this as a betrayal, and a lasting bitterness between Hammerfell and the Empire is sown to the delight of the Thalmor. Hammerfell continues to war with the Aldmeri Dominion for the next five years.
• Having been fought to a standstill by the Redguards, the Aldmeri Dominion completely withdraws from Hammerfell.

http://www.uesp.net/...Lore:Fourth_Era

Edited December 13, 2011 by ufw7

[RavveN]

I voted for imperials, since I was forced to be against Ulfric the racist. I would rather pick a well established and known tyranny than a new tyrant of which you have no clue what he will do.

 

Fair enough...Oh and yea im kinda responding to every post because i need new title...:3 Using this chanse :thumbsup:

[modder3434]

"Down with Ulfric, the killer of kings...on the day of your death we will dance and will sing" :tongue:

 

United the Empire will stand and rise again, or divided it will fall and come to ruin

 

 

United?? they are already divided (you should read the lore)

• The Empire is now a shadow of its former glory. Valenwood and Elsweyr had been ceded to the Thalmor, Black Marsh had been lost to Imperial rule since the Oblivion Crisis, Morrowind had yet to fully recover from the eruption of Red Mountain, and Hammerfell was plagued by infighting between the Crown and Forbear factions. Only High Rock, Cyrodiil, and Skyrim remained prosperous and peaceful.
• After Titus II rejects an ultimatum to make massive concessions to the Thalmor, Aldmeri armies invade. An army led by Thalmor general Lord Naarifin emerges from hidden camps in northern Elsweyr and assaults southern Cyrodiil, flanking Imperial defenses along the Valenwood border. Leyawiin falls to the invaders, and Bravil is surrounded and besieged. Simultaneously, an army under Lady Arannelya crosses western Cyrodiil, bypassing Anvil and Kvatch and entering Hammerfell. This army is joined by smaller forces landing on Hammerfell's coast. Imperial troops are forced into retreat across the Alik'r Desert.
• Titus II flees north from the city, smashing through the surrounding Aldmeri forces with his main army and linking up with reinforcements heading south from Skyrim under General Jonna. The Imperial City falls to the invaders. The Imperial Palace is burned, White-Gold Tower is looted, and the Aldmeri commit many atrocities against the defenseless populace.
• The Imperial City is retaken and Titus II's decision to withdraw from it the previous year is vindicated. Despite this resounding victory, however, the Empire is exhausted and unable to continue the war. Realizing this, Titus II seeks to negotiate with the Aldmeri Dominion to end the war.
• The Concordat is a peace treaty between the Empire and the Aldmeri Dominion. The terms of treaty gave the Thalmor free rein to stamp out the worship of Talos throughout the Empire, and ceded a large section of southern Hammerfell. Critics note that these terms are almost identical to the ultimatum that Titus II rejected at the start of the war.
• Titus II renounces Hammerfell as a province of the Empire to preserve the treaty after the Redguards oppose ceding their lands. The Redguards see this as a betrayal, and a lasting bitterness between Hammerfell and the Empire is sown to the delight of the Thalmor. Hammerfell continues to war with the Aldmeri Dominion for the next five years.
• Having been fought to a standstill by the Redguards, the Aldmeri Dominion completely withdraws from Hammerfell.

http://www.uesp.net/...Lore:Fourth_Era

i'm well aware of the lore. my statement was meaning that if the remaining provinces continue to fight between themselves and don't focus on rebuilding, and regaining strength they will never become as they were, then the damned Adlmeri Dominion will never be toppled, and then history would repeat itself, as the High Elves ( descendents from the Alyieds) rule over man and other mer again.

 

the empire may be a shadow of its former self but it can still bounce back, it just has to be smart, cunning, and willing to play dirty to win against the Thalmor. They need to use some of the tricks the Dominion used against them.

 

Hammerfell needs to get over themselves and help the empire, then after the dominion is defeated if they still want to be independent, then they can, and after a few decades we can work on regaing them into the empire.

 

Morrowind will get full government relief and aid as soon as we aren't busting our butts to get rid of the Thalmor.

 

Black Marsh is just a swamp to me, but if necessary then we can put the lizards back in their place or let them be independent for a while and then convince them to join the empire again.

 

Esywer, once we free them from Thalmor rule, they might be willing to join the empire again if we can show that we can protect them.

 

Valenwood, we free them and they be happy and stay with the empire.

 

as for summerset isle, we should just burn the whole island to ash, kill of all the high elves who are against us, and then salt the earth so nothing grows there again ha ha ha :devil: sorry i really don't like the Dommion.

[RavveN]

"Down with Ulfric, the killer of kings...on the day of your death we will dance and will sing" :tongue:

 

United the Empire will stand and rise again, or divided it will fall and come to ruin

 

 

United?? they are already divided (you should read the lore)

• The Empire is now a shadow of its former glory. Valenwood and Elsweyr had been ceded to the Thalmor, Black Marsh had been lost to Imperial rule since the Oblivion Crisis, Morrowind had yet to fully recover from the eruption of Red Mountain, and Hammerfell was plagued by infighting between the Crown and Forbear factions. Only High Rock, Cyrodiil, and Skyrim remained prosperous and peaceful.
• After Titus II rejects an ultimatum to make massive concessions to the Thalmor, Aldmeri armies invade. An army led by Thalmor general Lord Naarifin emerges from hidden camps in northern Elsweyr and assaults southern Cyrodiil, flanking Imperial defenses along the Valenwood border. Leyawiin falls to the invaders, and Bravil is surrounded and besieged. Simultaneously, an army under Lady Arannelya crosses western Cyrodiil, bypassing Anvil and Kvatch and entering Hammerfell. This army is joined by smaller forces landing on Hammerfell's coast. Imperial troops are forced into retreat across the Alik'r Desert.
• Titus II flees north from the city, smashing through the surrounding Aldmeri forces with his main army and linking up with reinforcements heading south from Skyrim under General Jonna. The Imperial City falls to the invaders. The Imperial Palace is burned, White-Gold Tower is looted, and the Aldmeri commit many atrocities against the defenseless populace.
• The Imperial City is retaken and Titus II's decision to withdraw from it the previous year is vindicated. Despite this resounding victory, however, the Empire is exhausted and unable to continue the war. Realizing this, Titus II seeks to negotiate with the Aldmeri Dominion to end the war.
• The Concordat is a peace treaty between the Empire and the Aldmeri Dominion. The terms of treaty gave the Thalmor free rein to stamp out the worship of Talos throughout the Empire, and ceded a large section of southern Hammerfell. Critics note that these terms are almost identical to the ultimatum that Titus II rejected at the start of the war.
• Titus II renounces Hammerfell as a province of the Empire to preserve the treaty after the Redguards oppose ceding their lands. The Redguards see this as a betrayal, and a lasting bitterness between Hammerfell and the Empire is sown to the delight of the Thalmor. Hammerfell continues to war with the Aldmeri Dominion for the next five years.
• Having been fought to a standstill by the Redguards, the Aldmeri Dominion completely withdraws from Hammerfell.

http://www.uesp.net/...Lore:Fourth_Era

i'm well aware of the lore. my statement was meaning that if the remaining provinces continue to fight between themselves and don't focus on rebuilding, and regaining strength they will never become as they were, then the damned Adlmeri Dominion will never be toppled, and then history would repeat itself, as the High Elves ( descendents from the Alyieds) rule over man and other mer again.

 

the empire may be a shadow of its former self but it can still bounce back, it just has to be smart, cunning, and willing to play dirty to win against the Thalmor. They need to use some of the tricks the Dominion used against them.

 

Hammerfell needs to get over themselves and help the empire, then after the dominion is defeated if they still want to be independent, then they can, and after a few decades we can work on regaing them into the empire.

 

Morrowind will get full government relief and aid as soon as we aren't busting our butts to get rid of the Thalmor.

 

Black Marsh is just a swamp to me, but if necessary then we can put the lizards back in their place or let them be independent for a while and then convince them to join the empire again.

 

Esywer, once we free them from Thalmor rule, they might be willing to join the empire again if we can show that we can protect them.

 

Valenwood, we free them and they be happy and stay with the empire.

 

as for summerset isle, we should just burn the whole island to ash, kill of all the high elves who are against us, and then salt the earth so nothing grows there again ha ha ha :devil: sorry i really don't like the Dommion.

 

You gave me a great idea, it's a really simple mod, just to make everyone killable...Like those guys in the Imperial/Stormcloak camps. The Dominion... It would be much cooler if you actually kill everyone of them, of course a little scripting hea, a little quest here...And there! No more Domini...:)