MagusShade Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 so wait... you're saying that the Dwemer gave up building fantastic machines and cities and being crazy awesome to instead have their spirits possess mechanical spiders so they could spend the rest of their lives sleeping in small steel tubes waiting for some helpless adventurer to come along so they can pounce? THAT..sounds like a really boring immortality lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomad42 Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 I recently finished the quest where you must return a Lexicon to a Dwemer ruin for an argonian in Riften, and within the ruin were shades of the argonians compatriots that helped her steal the Lexicon in the first place. A little ways into the ruin, one of the shades said something along the lines of: "What? Are you scared of some sleeping men?" The odd phrasing of the sentence got me thinking and I've come to realize something. The Dwemer never disappeared, the only transferred their souls into the automatons. When you do the main quest that takes you to Blackreach, the scientist who discovered the ruin (and is now dead) wondered why the automatons had soulgems within them when the had no clear purpose. I would like to present the theory that the Dwemer, who questioned the powers of the Divines, seeked to make themselves immortal in mockery to the Divines' intention. They did so by putting their souls within machines so that they would never die ad continue to exist beyond their normal life expectancy. This explains how the entire race just up and vanished. Though I have no idea what happened to all the bodies...I think that a form of this might have happened, the difference in my theory being that it was not on purpose. Something obviously went wrong. Either their automations turned on them or a experiment went wrong and the souls of the dwarves were trapped in the automations with no way out. Over time intelligence and emotion faded and they became the very robots that they created, but literally instead of metaphorically. This still wouldnt explain the lore-related lack of bodies other then that skeletons become dust over a long period of time. Two thousand years is plenty of time for bone to desintegrate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lessabos Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 This still wouldnt explain the lore-related lack of bodies other then that skeletons become dust over a long period of time. Two thousand years is plenty of time for bone to desintegrate. Then where are clothes and armor , if their bodies died Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGatot Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 More likely the dwemer used the souls of their pets or random animals to power their automatons. Just like we used souls to enchant weapons and armors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomad42 Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 This still wouldnt explain the lore-related lack of bodies other then that skeletons become dust over a long period of time. Two thousand years is plenty of time for bone to desintegrate. Then where are clothes and armor , if their bodies diedSame general concept, clothes and armor dont "live" forever, they too can decompose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patchup94 Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 Genius! I think I see how this all fits. First of all, if the Dwemer were attempting to create a magical construct (the centurions) and sustain a permanent field of harmonic energy (per master Dwemer Kragnac's theories.) they had to solve the problem of soul burn.Obviously, they swallowed soul gems and hopped inside the metal critters. Alas they forgot about the calipers. Silly Dwemer. Wait, what was I talking about?? **************************************************** All joking aside, I would encourage this type of thread, Kudos to you Jacuwi, for putting your ideas out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huntsman2310 Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 I just think they all ascended when Kagrenac activated the Heart of Lorkhan. And now their constructs still guard their halls. An eternal vigil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintAnon Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 (edited) I'm more inclined to the theory that they all ascended to another plain of existence or teleported to some far off land when Kagrenac activated the Heart of Lorkhan. If you have completed the Hogwarts side quest "Arniel's Endeavor" he has you charge a "Warped Soul Gem" using ancient Dwemer Convectors; which he then proceeds to strike the Gem with Keening one of the ancient artifacts used to create the once Human Gods of Marrowind, and later defeat Dagoth Ur. Needless to say theirs a flash and he disappears without a trace, is this what happened to the Dwemer but on a much grander scale using the Heart of Lorkhan? and if it is where 'd he go? And now were back to were be begun... Beth = Master of Cliffhangers. Supporting Articles: Keening was one of the most important items in Morrowind, where it is said that the Dwemer used it to turn their whole race into gods. It is believed this experiment went wrong and destroyed the Dwemer, hence its role in Skyrim http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Keening#Keening Keening is a legendary Short Blade crafted by the Dwemer Tonal Architect Lord Kagrenac. Together with Sunder and Wraithguard, these tools are necessary to handle the Heart of Lorkhan. http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:Keening Lord Kagrenac was the Dwemeri Chief Tonal Architect and Shop Foremer at the time of the War of the First Council. He was the foremost arcane philosopher and magecrafter of the Dwemer, and devised tools to shape mythopoeic forces, intending to transcend the limits of Dwemer mortality. Kagrenac was the primary architect working on the Heart of Lorkhan. He created the original Brass God, Numidium, as well as Keening, Sunder and Wraithguard. According to some theories, it may have been his use of the heart that caused the Dwemer to disappear from the face of Tamriel in 1E 700. http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Kagrenac#Kagrenac :thumbsup: Edited December 20, 2011 by SaintAnon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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