1Prelude Posted February 21, 2008 Author Share Posted February 21, 2008 There exist a good number of "experts" for both theories. And if you were actually interested, I'd send you the papers which I've wrote and pages of highly reputable biologists/scientists/professors who have also come to the conclusion that evolution is a crap theory. Unfortunately, I perceive that you have absolutely no scope for reasoning which differs from your own. But hey, chill out. No hard feelings here. You believe what you like, and I'll do the same. So long as we're both happy, there's no need to get so irate over something as inconsequential as evolution or creationism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddycashmercury Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 I agree with Prelude. If you still want a debate, however, it's fine by me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duskrider Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 But we're not arguing with them, we're arguing with you. Do you have a published paper in a peer reviewed journal of biology? If you do, good for you! If not, then you have no right to force evolution upon us. Your evasion of the question of validity of the theory of evolution says to me that you must have doubts. Why else would you be afraid of us uneducated homeschoolers and my good friend Rob? If a person who doesn't even have a degree in biology can disprove your theory, then shouldn't it be obvious your theory is wrong? Give us a chance to prove you wrong, thereby destroying your main argument. I'm not afraid of anyone, I'm simply tired of dealing with this off-topic tangent with a bunch of people who have less biology knowledge than we expect 12 year olds to have. Allow me to quote myself: Thank you for trying, but you fail. This little hijack of the discussion is over, feel free to make a new thread debating evolution if you wish to continue it. The simple fact is, if you wish to act as a science teacher, you teach what the scientists say is the correct answer. If you are either unwilling or unable to do so, you are not qualified to act as a science teacher. This way to the public school enrollment office ---->. There exist a good number of "experts" for both theories. And if you were actually interested, I'd send you the papers which I've wrote and pages of highly reputable biologists/scientists/professors who have also come to the conclusion that evolution is a crap theory. I said peer-reviewed journals. Good luck finding one, the papers you claim to have simply do not exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddycashmercury Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 Fine, let's stop with the evolution debate. You still haven't answered my first post. Edit: I will say this. "Peer review isn't necessary for it to be scientific or science. Scientific consensus is not required for something to be science. Science is not dictated by opinion, it is concrete. That's the entire point." A wise, homeschooled friend of mine said that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1Prelude Posted February 21, 2008 Author Share Posted February 21, 2008 I'm not afraid of anyone, I'm simply tired of dealing with this off-topic tangent *Cough* Yeah who tried to tie this whole thing in, anyway? Good luck finding one, the papers you claim to have simply do not exist. Perfect example how one should not debate ^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ResidentWeevil2077 Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 Duskrider, I've had enough of your insults on my intelligence - this thread isn't about evolution, but that's your only reason to argue against the validity of homeschooling. You really are more idiotic than I originally thought. You're not only a blasphemous coward, but a hypocrite who's only knowledge seems to revolve about science. Not everyone shares your views, because not everyone is a scientist. If that was the case, this world would surely have gone to hell in hand basket 10 years ago. Your argument has no merit in a thread about homeschooling... which reminds me, how in the hell did you manage to hijack this thread into a discussion about the validity of evolution? Is because you're a biologist? If that's the case, then please, for the sake of this community, please exit the way you came in (and try not to let the door hit you on your way out). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duskrider Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 Edit: I will say this. "Peer review isn't necessary for it to be scientific or science. Scientific consensus is not required for something to be science. Science is not dictated by opinion, it is concrete. That's the entire point." Actually, peer review is necessary. Peer review is a fundamental principle of science, and one of the major reasons it works as well as it does. In this case, however, I'm mostly using it as a filter, so I don't have to waste time with you people when your disagreement with evolution is clearly due to your complete lack of understanding of biology and science in general. Rob_b, I will repeat myself: feel free to come back when you have something constructive to add. Feel free to argue against the points I have made once you have actually read them. I have already answered your question about why evolution is relevant, in fact, I have done so many times. It is not my fault if you are unable to read well enough to find these explanations. The simple fact is, if you wish to act as a science teacher, you teach what the scientists say is the correct answer, in this case, evolution. If you are either unwilling or unable to do so, you are not qualified to act as a science teacher. In post after post, the homeschooling supporters in this thread demonstrate that they are not qualified to act as science teachers. So.... this way to the public school enrollment office ---->. And I repeat: The Wall is a good album. It is a terrible argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddycashmercury Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 Did you ever think the reason we disagree with evolution is because we've studied the theory and found it lacking? I don't appreciate it when people make assumptions like the one you've made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duskrider Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 Did you ever think the reason we disagree with evolution is because we've studied the theory and found it lacking? I don't appreciate it when people make assumptions like the one you've made. Journal in a peer-reviewd paper, please. If you truly have discovered a fatal flaw in the Theory of Evolution that is not due to your own ignorance of the subject, you have a Nobel Prize waiting for you to reward you for the most significant discovery in biology in the past 100 years. Until you show me this paper, I am forced to conclude that you simply don't understand the theory well enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ResidentWeevil2077 Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 I'm not disagreeing with you Dusk about the validity of evolution, I'm saying why are you even using it as an argument against homeschooling? You must know that parents are as accountable (perhaps even more so) as teachers are for teaching students. If you still fail to even see that, then you're even more ignorant than thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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