CTD Crash Entering Dragonsreach

[QuantumBios]

When giving a new mod setup a quick test for a run through, these are the steps I take. (Using Alternate Start, Begin in Sleeping Giant Inn)

Check Delphine textures and animations.

Run to Helgen. Rescue Ralof.

Back to Riverwood to get quest to inform Jarl.

Run to Companions killing giant. Check textures. Run to Dragonsreach to advance quest.

 

I am getting a CTD after 3 seconds of loading when trying to enter Dragonsreach. Can't coc inside. Dungeon entrance also CTD. Searched google for solutions, didn't find anything except someone replaced an ebony weapons mod (that I don't use) and it fixed it.

 

Plugin order below, sorted with LOOT. Any input or advice appreciated. Thanks for taking the time to look.

 

 

GameMode=SkyrimSE

Skyrim.esm=1

Update.esm=1

Dawnguard.esm=1

Hearthfires.esm=1

Dragonborn.esm=1

Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm=1

RSkyrimChildren.esm=1

TravellersOfSkyrim.esm=1

ApachiiHair.esm=1

ApachiiHairFemales.esm=1

ApachiiHairMales.esm=1

Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp=1

Cutting Room Floor.esp=1

Modern Brawl Bug Fix.esp=1

Racial Body Morphs -Dawnguard.esp=1

DeadBodyCollision.esp=0

RichMerchantsSkyrim_x2.esp=1

dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp=1

FastTravelSpeedMultiplier.esp=1

True Eyes SE desaturated.esp=1

Castle Volkihar Rebuilt.esp=1

ELE_SSE.esp=1

OpulentOutfits_SSE_AIO-2016.esp=1

BijinAIO_SSE-3.1.1-SV.esp=1

RSChildren - Complete.esp=1

RSChildren_PatchUSSEP.esp=1

Verdant - A Skyrim Grass Plugin SSE Version.esp=1

DustEffectsSSE.esp=1

DiverseDragonsCollectionSE.esp=1

BetterQuestObjectives.esp=1

BarenziahQuestMarkers_Droppable.esp=1

BetterQuestObjectives-CRFPatch.esp=1

CriticalCorrection.esp=1

AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp=1

Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp=1

20 More Perk Points.esp=1

Smilodon - Combat of Skyrim.esp=1

Smilodon - Realistic Damage.esp=1

Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp=1

RealisticWaterTwo.esp=1

Forgotten DungeonsSSE.esp=1

Thunderchild - Epic Shout Package.esp=1

Populated Lands Roads Paths Legendary.esp=1

Point The Way.esp=1

JKs Whiterun.esp=1

Populated Dungns Caves Ruins Legendary.esp=1

more idle markers.esp=1

Artifacts.esp=1

JK's Riverwood.esp=1

Run For Your Lives.esp=1

SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp=1

Vivid WeathersSE.esp=1

WeightLessAll.esp=1

Darkwater Crossing.esp=1

Populated Forts Towers Places Legendary.esp=1

Immersive Wenches.esp=1

Immersive Wenches -Apachii hairs- Patch.esp=1

Populated Cities Towns Villages Legendary.esp=1

Shor's Stone.esp=1

Immersive Patrols II.esp=1

SkyrimImprovedPuddles-DG-HF-DB.esp=1

Ivarstead.esp=1

Immersive Followers.esp=1

Ducks and Swans.esp=1

Kynesgrove.esp=1

Whistling Mine.esp=1

Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp=1

Karthwasten.esp=1

Soljund's Sinkhole.esp=1

S2B Special Edition.esp=1

forgottencity.esp=1

Blacksmith Forge Water Fix SE USSEP.esp=1

notice board.esp=1

JKs Whiterun exterior.esp=1

The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp=1

BetterQuestObjectives-PaarDilemmaPatch.esp=1

Gildergreen Regrown.esp=1

Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim.esp=1

Apocalypse - Ordinator Compatibility Patch.esp=1

When Vampires Attack.esp=1

BosmerElderShadowArmor.esp=1

Perfect Legionnaire - Troops Re-equipment.esp=1

TrueBrows.esp=1

Bijin Warmaidens.esp=0

Bijin NPCs.esp=0

Bijin Wives.esp=0

Serana.esp=0

Valerica.esp=0

Tanning And Smelting Experience.esp=1

TravellersOfSkyrim - Vanilla.esp=1

TravellersOfSkyrim - Dragonborn Addon.esp=1

SPTDiverseGuardsSkyrimSE.esp=1

MrBs-UniqueLoot-SE.esp=1

Unique Uniques.esp=1

Soul Gem Redux - SSE.esp=1

Faster running walking and sneaking.esp=1

Improved Gauldur Amulet.esp=1

Dragon Souls To Attributes.esp=1

Carry Weight x25.esp=1

RUSTIC SOULGEMS - Unsorted.esp=0

LeftHandRings.esp=1

aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp=1

LZA Belrand SSE.esp=1

Chesko_LoreBasedLoadingScreens.esp=1

reflection-levelupmessages.esp=1

UnreadBooksGlow.esp=1

Capes&Cloaks.esp=1

Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp=1

BetterQuestObjectives-AlternateStartPatch.esp=1

 

 

[gothique11]

I had something similar happen to me too, and I eventually found a solution. I don't know if my solution would work for you or not, although the symptoms were similar, that doesn't mean that the error is caused from the same thing. Anyway...

 

I was in Whiterun, and every time I went into any door, ie the homes, bar, etc -- and yes, even Dragons reach -- the game would crash (CTD). I tried to figure out if a mod was causing an issue by running LOOT and then TES5Edit, but nothing came up. I ran FINS just incase maybe I forgot to, and then I also ran Patchus Maximus just to make sure that was also run. I tried to clean my save file by using a save file cleaner. But still I had CTD's.

 

I couldn't find any help online either, and I was quickly getting to the point where I felt that I might have to do a major mod trim and possibly restart my character.

 

But, then I looked at my quests, and decided to do a quest line that I had already started earlier, but didn't finish. I couldn't finish the quest to get to dragonsreach, so why not?

 

I wish that I could remember which quest I did, because finishing that quest ended up fixing the CTD's in Whiterun and entering Dragon's reach.

 

So, that's my advice: if you haven't used Loot and all the other order and file checks, then do that first. After, if it still happens, check your quests -- maybe you need to finish a quest to get the bugs out, and then you can reach dragonsreach crash free.

 

Good Luck! :)

[QuantumBios]

Thanks for the input, I'm all out of ideas so it's likely that i'll do exactly what you proscribed!

 

I just cleaned the masters with seedit, and ran it through LOOT and noticed a BIG difference in the graphics quality when I ran a new game. Still CTD when opening Dragonsreach doors, but i noticed that LOOT does not appear to re-organize the plugins in NMM after it sort them. So next I will copy the load order that is in LOOT, manually, into NMM, and give it a whirl, and if that doesn't work, go on a couple dungeon delves and try again later. Thanks for the reply! Good idea. I feel like I've spent more time troubleshooting SSE in the past 2 weeks than playing!

 

Edit: It does appear that LOOT sorted the plugins. My bad.

 

Also downloaded the Skyrim Performance Monitor and looked at the usage rates when the crash occurs. When the crash occurs, my yellow Memory (MB) line shoots over the green horizontal dotted line, says max 3,189.

I wonder if loading EMBoost would allieviate this problem, as I believe Skyrim is only able to use 3.1Gb of RAM. Unsure. Will continue to test. Right now it appears something inside Dragonsreach is causing it to overload. Or it could be a missing texture?

 

Wish there was a way to "reset" Dragonsreach. Doing other quests and exploring is fun, but I won't see any dragons unless I kill the first one. :-/

[QuantumBios]

Am I topping out on RAM? Wondering if anyone can interpret this, and possibly see a problem.