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Weapon Level lists: New weapons


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@tek

Gilded Glass would actually be the vanilla mesh. Though a retexture would be great, especially considering how poor a fit the steel mesh would be (since all the "middle" tier armor uses the steel mesh in my simple example.) It might be worthwhile to create a light weight (in appearance) mesh for the middle tier of light armor(elven, glass, and dragon.)

Also for heavy armor we can add copper and bronze retextures of iron, steel, and steel plate (copper only the first two.) Banded iron can then become the highest form of iron and copper (since that's sort of what I think the banded stuff is supposed to be.)

 

@Nycidian

I had used Light */*/Gilded * as the format because Elven is already in that format. However, Heavy armor should have a different prefix group, so there's plenty of room there. I guess leather already does follow the naming patterned you outlined, but I'm not overly fond of the studded pattern. To me, banded hide/fur/leather seems like it would be the better choice protection wise. Scaled armor is it's own thing, though I suppose it's mesh is very similar to the hide/studded mesh so I guess that fits the theme. So as an example with leather, how about:

 

Thin Leather (or partial if you prefer a different mesh)

Leather

Studded Leather

Banded Leather or Scaled Leather (both exist just a choice of hard plates embedded or on the exterior of the armor respectively)

 

On a different note, when I made my first post about styles I actually had something like the following in mind (it's overly complicated which is why I didn't follow through with it.)

 

For metals and ceramics (furs/hides/leather have a different set.)

Breastplate Style - light Armor - Current Iron Mesh

Nordic Style - Heavy armor - current Steel mesh

Dwemer - Heavy - dwarven mesh

Elven - light - elven mesh

orcish - heavy - orcish mesh

templar - heavy - ebony mesh

ceramic - heavy - glass mesh

etc. Etc.

 

Then you can combine any material with a style. So you could have an ebony breastplate. In order to disallow you from making ebony stuff out of the gate, smithing would be in charge of materials, and you'd have to learn styles. Even without completely overhauling smithing, this mod is going to get big (we're talking a dozen or more sets or armor and weapons after all) and the balancing issues are going to be bad enough without worrying if an ebony breastplate should be stronger than an orichalcum templar armor (as an example.) Eventually, we can get around to that, but lets get the easy stuff done first (also if the goal is merely adding new stuff to find/make it might be a bit overkill to completely remodel the structure of the armor sets in the game.)

 

@Faize

I think I addressed your concern in the paragraph above, but let me know if I haven't'.

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After talking with tek, here's sort of a summary of what was discussed.

Heavy Armor:

  • Copper Armor
  • Iron Armor
  • Banded Iron Armor
  • Nordic Bronze, Steel, Silver, and Ebony Armors (Retextures of Steel Armor)
  • Dwarven Armor
  • Orcish and Orcish Steel, Silver, and Ebony Armors
  • Bronze, Steel, Silver, and Ebony Plate Armors
  • Templar Bronze, Steel, Silver, and Ebony Armors (Retextures of Ebony Armor)
  • Dragon Plate and Dragon Heart Plate Armors
  • Daedric Armor

Levels that these will occur as rare loot and random boss gear.

 

  • Level 1: Copper and Iron Armor
  • Level 2: Banded Iron Armor
  • Level 3: Nordic Bronze Armor
  • Level 5: Nordic Steel Armor
  • Level 7: Orcish Armor
  • Level 10: Dwarven Armor
  • Level 13: Nordic Silver Armor
  • Level 16: Orcish Steel Armor
  • Level 19: Bronze Plate Armor
  • Level 23: Nordic Ebony Armor
  • Level 27: Orcish Silver Armor
  • Level 31: Steel Plate Armor
  • Level 35: Bronze Templar Armor
  • Level 39: Orcish Ebony Armor
  • Level 44: Silver Plate Armor
  • Level 49: Steel Templar Armor
  • Level 54: Ebony Plate Armor
  • Level 59: Silver Templar Armor
  • Level 64: Ebony Templar Armor
  • Level 69: Dragon Plate Armor
  • Level 75: Daedric Armor
  • Level 81: Dragon Heart Plate Armor

Suggestions for additional heavy armors are welcome, and the numbers above will be modified to fit any additional sets.

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