F4SE CTD on startup

[Wiffleball]

Hi everyone.

 

I'm not new to modding, but I'm still a little bit new to Fallout 4 and I guess it might handle things a bit differently than Skyrim did. I've edited my .ini to allow modding and all that, I was successfully modding for about a month before this happened. Prior to this my game was very stable as I have a pretty good system.

 

I downloaded a few new mods, I thought they were fairly simple standalone armor/weapon mods, and one difficulty one (Create your own difficulty) and one UI (Pleasant UI). I try to open my game through F4SE and I CTD before the loading screen. I ran LOOT with no errors and re-verified the integrity of my game cache, everything appears to be in order. I'm at the end of my technical rope, but I looked in my Docs folder for my logs and found these. I saw that the mod "Place Everywhere" appeared in one of the logs so I uninstalled, re-ran LOOT and still get a CTD. Logs spoiler'd below, I'd appreciate some help interpreting them.

 

f4ee.log:

 

f4ee

couldn't get papyrus interface

 

 

f4se.log:

 

F4SE runtime: initialize (version = 0.2.8 01080070 01D23F7D3483CCC3, os = 6.2 (9200))

imagebase = 00007FF726000000

reloc mgr imagebase = 00007FF726000000

plugin directory = C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Fallout 4\Data\F4SE\Plugins\

checking plugin C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Fallout 4\Data\F4SE\Plugins\\f4ee.dll

unknown QueryInterface 00000003

registering plugin listener for F4SE at 1 of 2

plugin C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Fallout 4\Data\F4SE\Plugins\\f4ee.dll (00000001 F4EE 00000001) loaded correctly

config path = C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Fallout 4\Data\F4SE\f4se.ini

init complete

RegisterPapyrusFunctions_Hook

f4se_loader.log:

f4se loader 00020080 01D23F7D33B9D581 6.2 (9200)

config path = C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Fallout 4\Data\F4SE\f4se.ini

procPath = C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Fallout 4\\Fallout4.exe

launching: Fallout4.exe (C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Fallout 4\\Fallout4.exe)

dwSignature = FEEF04BD

dwStrucVersion = 00010000

dwFileVersionMS = 00010008

dwFileVersionLS = 00070000

dwProductVersionMS = 00010008

dwProductVersionLS = 00070000

dwFileFlagsMask = 00000017

dwFileFlags = 00000000

dwFileOS = 00000004

dwFileType = 00000001

dwFileSubtype = 00000000

dwFileDateMS = 00000000

dwFileDateLS = 00000000

version = 0001000800070000

product name = Fallout 4

steam exe

dll = C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Fallout 4\\f4se_1_8_7.dll

main thread id = 11932

hookBase = 0000017B939A0000

loadLibraryAAddr = 00007FF828B7F610

hook thread complete

launching

f4se_steam_loader.log:

f4se loader 00020080 (steam) 01D23F7D33BBD5FF 6.2 (9200)

loader base addr = 00007FF813480000

exe base addr = 00007FF726000000

found iat at 00007FF728B17EF8

original thunk 00007FFFFEA1DB48

patched iat

HookMain: thread = 11932 retaddr = 00007FF72884F98D

runtimePath = C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Fallout 4\Fallout4.exe

dwSignature = FEEF04BD

dwStrucVersion = 00010000

dwFileVersionMS = 00010008

dwFileVersionLS = 00070000

dwProductVersionMS = 00010008

dwProductVersionLS = 00070000

dwFileFlagsMask = 00000017

dwFileFlags = 00000000

dwFileOS = 00000004

dwFileType = 00000001

dwFileSubtype = 00000000

dwFileDateMS = 00000000

dwFileDateLS = 00000000

version = 0001000800070000

product name = Fallout 4

steam exe

dll = C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Fallout 4\\f4se_1_8_7.dll

place_plugin.log (Generated before uninstalling "Place Everywhere")

place_everywhere_plugin

unsupported runtime version 01080070, compiled for f4se 00020070

 

Load order:

 

 

0 0 Fallout4.esm

1 1 DLCRobot.esm

2 2 DLCworkshop01.esm

3 3 DLCCoast.esm

4 4 DLCworkshop02.esm

5 5 DLCworkshop03.esm

6 6 DLCNukaWorld.esm

7 7 Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch.esp

8 8 TrueStormsFO4.esm

9 9 ArmorKeywords.esm

10 a SpringCleaning.esm

11 b TrueStormsFO4-EarlierSunsets.esp

12 c TrueStormsFO4-GlowingSeaExtraRads.esp

13 d CBBE.esp

14 e VisibleWeapons.esp

15 f dD-Enhanced Blood Basic.esp

16 10 dD - Small Splatter Size.esp

17 11 AnS Wearable Backpacks and Pouches.esp

18 12 AnS Wearable Backpacks and Pouches - No Crafting Perks.esp

19 13 AnS Wearable Backpacks and Pouches - AWKCR.esp

20 14 EferasShoulderBag.esp

21 15 AzarPonytailHairstyles.esp

22 16 YoungLaraCroftFacePreset_2.esp

23 17 FO4Hotkeys.esp

24 18 Eli_Faction Housing Overhaul - AiO.esp

25 19 WET.esp

26 1a InteriorsEnhanced-All-In-One.esp

27 1b Campsite.esp

28 1c K9TacticalHarness.esp

29 1d Armorsmith Extended.esp

30 1e Crossbow.esp

31 1f Eli_Accessories.esp

32 20 KSHairdos.esp

33 21 Crafting Workbench.esp

34 22 Crafting Workbenches - Ammo.esp

35 23 Crafting Workbenches - Ammo Expanded.esp

36 24 Crafting Workbenches - Ammo Special.esp

37 25 Survivalist Go-Bags_AE_AWKCR.esp

38 26 EveryonesBestFriend.esp

39 27 M9.esp

40 28 Friffy_Holstered Weapons.esp

41 29 BetterNightVision.esp

42 2a DarkerNights.esp

43 2b PowerArmorAutopilot.esp

44 2c Campsite-AWKCR.esp

45 2d Survivalist.esp

46 2e Quick Save.esp

47 2f StartMeUp.esp

48 30 LooksMenu Customization Compendium.esp

49 31 XCE.esp

50 32 LooksMirror.esp

51 33 THSurvivorKnife.esp

52 34 Goggles on Forehead.esp

53 35 combat_PA.esp

54 36 tumbajamba Advanced Engineering.esp

55 37 combat_PA - tAE - AWKCR.esp

56 38 Sandbags.esp

57 39 Lots More Male Hairstyles.esp

58 3a Pip-Boy Flashlight.esp

59 3b WM Heavy Machine Gun - Standalone.esp

60 3c TrueReporter.esp

61 3d Lots More Facial Hair.esp

62 3e Immersive Wastelanders v1.1.esp

63 3f FreshLookCait.esp

64 40 FreshLookDanse.esp

65 41 FreshLookDeacon.esp

66 42 FreshLookEllie.esp

67 43 FreshLookGlory.esp

68 44 FreshLookHaylen.esp

69 45 FreshLookMaccready.esp

70 46 FreshLookMagnolia.esp

71 47 FreshLookMaxson.esp

72 48 IWPiper v1.1.esp

73 49 FreshLookPiper.esp

74 4a FreshLookDesdemona.esp

75 4b EAMR.esp

76 4c Balanced Fusion Core Drain.esp

77 4d timetravel.esp

78 4e DD_All_the_COncrete.esp

79 4f Brotherhood of Steel Kit.esp

80 50 OWR_CraftableDecor.esp

81 51 OWR_CraftableDecor_CW.esp

82 52 rpampas.esp

83 53 More Durable Power Armor - 50%.esp

84 54 QuickEnterFromStand.esp

85 55 QuickExitToStand.esp

86 56 ScrapDeadThings.esp

87 57 SC_ExpandedScrapList.esp

88 58 SettlersRename.esp

89 59 IMG_Castle_Wall_Patches.esp

90 5a LooksMenu.esp

91 5b SMC.esp

92 5c Rangergearnew.esp

93 5d Tactical Flashlights.esp

94 5e TNR Shoulder Lamp.esp

95 5f JetfuelRadio.esp

96 60 SalvageBeacons.esp

97 61 OWR.esp

98 62 calyps-bos-booty.esp

99 63 MoreWeaves.esp

100 64 ValdacilsItemSorting-00-ValsPicks-DLCVersion.esp

101 65 VaultTecAcceleratedFocusSystem.esp

102 66 LessMolotovSpam.esp

103 67 Give Me That Bottle.esp

104 68 Better Power Armor - Extended.esp

105 69 More Resistant Power Armor - Normal.esp

106 6a CommonwealthSurvivalist.esp

107 6b Companion_BloodRose.esp

108 6c imm_nar.esp

109 6d ImmersiveScrapping_SeasonPass.esp

110 6e RaiderPAChopShop.esp

111 6f Double_Barrel_Spread_And_Range.esp

112 70 IWCait v1.1.esp

113 71 IWCurie v1.1.esp

114 72 IWDanse v1.1.esp

115 73 IWMacCready v1.1.esp

116 74 IWPreston v1.1.esp

117 75 IWDeacon v1.1.esp

 

 

F4SE version 2.8, running Fallout 4 update 1.8

 

 

Thanks so much!

Edited November 15, 2016 by Wiffleball

[BipolarOne]

Don't have to. You said yourself that you just started with FO4. That means whatever you did "sucks". This current build is around 400 mods merged together because those mods were needed and in a state of being updated, instead of outdated, and at least resembling some sort of quality work that would work together. Looking at what you had it seems like a mess of crap that you wanted, coming in after the fact, mixed with old stuff nobody uses anymore. You had no plan, you had no testing, and it turned out to be s*** that broke. I'm just saying all that to save you time, an get you to start over. Because I would argue it takes multiple attempts to get a high quality stable build of modded FO4.

 

I understand though, you need to get this one working in order to learn. For that try loading it up with xEdit, look for errors in the app loading the load order, as crash at launch was tied to incorrect load order (along with LOOT sucking without any Metadata IMO) After that you would take the load order and a calculator an find out where the 1/2 mark is, turn half of the mods off, duplicate the problem, still there it's in the first half, if it's not there then it's in the last half. Keep doing that until it's located, fix it or drop the mod. If it still does it with all the mods turned off, then you really broke it all, make a backup install disc an remove the whole thing, cleanup afterwards with some 3rd party maintenance program.

 

One thing in particular that would help are the pinned topics in mod troubleshooting for FO4. Then have a plan, like install the mods in the order you want the load order to be in, or at least mostly. Organization & composite grouping or LOOT basically. Though you wouldn't forget the testing you should do or backups you should make. There was a player that noted that to them FO4 modded was more work than Skyrim modded. I don't really get that because it's all more work to me. In my perspective it's more about the payoff an if that is great enough I typically ignore the work. There are points though that one should just throw it up in the air an start over IMO.

 

Something else it took many adjustments to playstyle and roleplay to start to enjoy FO4. Large amount of config too. So it might not be a bad idea to play the Vanilla game +DLC +ENB then write down what mods you thought you needed while you learn what FO4 is going to be for you and how the game works differently a bit. Backups are pretty easy, Steam will create backup install discs, then grab the ini, hidden appdata files, and remaining game directory after it's uninstalled, then compressed is pretty much the modded part of a build. That will drag an drop in later, same for keeping older versions of the game and/or mods, but you might have missed out on that. At least get a character you like an grab a clean savegame outside of vault 111 you can use as a backup.

 

 

[damanding]

Verify that the version of F4SE you're using works with the current version of the game you're using. F4SE is usually nonfunctional for a few days every time Bethesda releases an update. The nature of the way F4SE works is that it's tied very closely to the specific game engine code for any given version.