Silver Rush Misfire

[Alehazar]

I've arrived at Freeside and I wish to venture inside the Silver Rush, run by the Van Graffs.

Gloria is discussing some business deal with a Mr. Soren.

At some point Gloria says to her brother "Do it!".

He is supposed to vaporize some poor slob, but he doesn't do anything.

And we all just stand there. The scene won't finish and I cannot approach Gloria or everyone will turn hostile.

I reloaded various save games, but the game simply doesn't progress at the Silver Rush.

It's never happened before, so why now?

Can this be resolved using some console commands?

Any help is appreciated.

[ddx420]

Have you tried noclipping through the fence using "tcl" then clicking on the captured guy and typing in "kill" in the console? I'm not sure if the script needs the guy to be vaporized or just dead, though. Hope this helps!

-ddx

[Alehazar]

Have you tried noclipping through the fence using "tcl" then clicking on the captured guy and typing in "kill" in the console? I'm not sure if the script needs the guy to be vaporized or just dead, though. Hope this helps!

-ddx

 

yeah, tried the no-clipping when I decided to go steal the evidence Rose needs to get the Van Graffs and Alice McLafferty prosecuted.

Then some time later I wanted to join the BoS -but for my initiation trial they want me to kill the Van Graffs. Thought Ranger jackson told me explicitly, if I were to take any action against the wicked twins, he would no longer feel obliged to hold up jis end of the deal to see the conspirators punished.

But what really bugs me -no pun intended- is that I cannot do the Van Graff missions.

As long as Jean Baptiste doesn't kill the poor slob, this plot line will not progress. And me killing the poor fellow won't do squat. The event is scripted and Gloria's brother needs to pull the trigger. Somehow, somewhere the proper script doesn't fire -or does not finish.

Edited January 3, 2012 by Alehazar

[adman85]

I've had this happen weirdly a few times, once when I was standing too close to the fence (the guards actually just started shooting at me after someone yelled "back to work")

 

Other times it seems I get the same issue as yourself. Jean Baptiste refuses to fire and the PC gets "stuck" in the cutscene.

 

Re loading before I had walked in and trying it again fixed it for me (eventually) just try standing in different spots in the first box made by the guards.

 

I had a feeling that EVE may cause this problem, but it has happened without EVE too, so, I'm at a loss for a real solution.

 

I thinks its a vanilla bug.

[Alehazar]

I've had this happen weirdly a few times, once when I was standing too close to the fence (the guards actually just started shooting at me after someone yelled "back to work")

 

Other times it seems I get the same issue as yourself. Jean Baptiste refuses to fire and the PC gets "stuck" in the cutscene.

 

Re loading before I had walked in and trying it again fixed it for me (eventually) just try standing in different spots in the first box made by the guards.

 

I had a feeling that EVE may cause this problem, but it has happened without EVE too, so, I'm at a loss for a real solution.

 

I thinks its a vanilla bug.

 

I concur. I don't know who or what EVE is -a mod probably- but it seems to me that FNV can glitch at any moment. Maybe some savegames made after a glitching moment, can never rid themselves of it. I've seen all sorts of enemies -animal, mutant or humanoid- get stuck in the wasteland. My compass still registers them as NPC's, but shooting them has no effect. Sometimes a quicksave/quickload can get them unstuck, but not always. When that happens I can only hope to reload a save before the glitch occurred. Just what is it that these things can occur at all -worse yet, why do they sometimes persist? Does the console offer a reset function? And if it does, would it solve this random glitching? Makes me wonder.....

Edited January 4, 2012 by Alehazar

[LoogieMkII]

Then some time later I wanted to join the BoS -but for my initiation trial they want me to kill the Van Graffs. Thought Ranger jackson told me explicitly, if I were to take any action against the wicked twins, he would no longer feel obliged to hold up jis end of the deal to see the conspirators punished.

 

That's what I like to call the tyranny of choice. This isn't a Bethesda game where you can do everything; this is a real Fallout game and it's impossible to make everyone happy.

[formalrevya]

I've had this happen weirdly a few times, once when I was standing too close to the fence (the guards actually just started shooting at me after someone yelled "back to work")

 

Other times it seems I get the same issue as yourself. Jean Baptiste refuses to fire and the PC gets "stuck" in the cutscene.

 

Re loading before I had walked in and trying it again fixed it for me (eventually) just try standing in different spots in the first box made by the guards.

 

I had a feeling that EVE may cause this problem, but it has happened without EVE too, so, I'm at a loss for a real solution.

 

I thinks its a vanilla bug.

 

I concur. I don't know who or what EVE is -a mod probably- but it seems to me that FNV can glitch at any moment. Maybe some savegames made after a glitching moment, can never rid themselves of it. I've seen all sorts of enemies -animal, mutant or humanoid- get stuck in the wasteland. My compass still registers them as NPC's, but shooting them has no effect. Sometimes a quicksave/quickload can get them unstuck, but not always. When that happens I can only hope to reload a save before the glitch occurred. Just what is it that these things can occur at all -worse yet, why do they sometimes persist? Does the console offer a reset function? And if it does, would it solve this random glitching? Makes me wonder.....

 

http://newvegas.nexusmods.com/downloads/file.php?id=45104 this might be able to help you if you have a modded game. Sometimes mods will cause vanilla errors to develop that wouldn't normally happen. it's not listed on the fallout wiki as being a bug. usually if it's just a vanilla problem that happens in any version of the game the wiki pages will have a possible fix for the bug listed but I wasn't able to find anything corresponding to it. I'll keep checking the related wiki pages to see if I find anything for you. Let me know if this helps

[Alehazar]

I've had this happen weirdly a few times, once when I was standing too close to the fence (the guards actually just started shooting at me after someone yelled "back to work")

 

Other times it seems I get the same issue as yourself. Jean Baptiste refuses to fire and the PC gets "stuck" in the cutscene.

 

Re loading before I had walked in and trying it again fixed it for me (eventually) just try standing in different spots in the first box made by the guards.

 

I had a feeling that EVE may cause this problem, but it has happened without EVE too, so, I'm at a loss for a real solution.

 

I thinks its a vanilla bug.

 

I concur. I don't know who or what EVE is -a mod probably- but it seems to me that FNV can glitch at any moment. Maybe some savegames made after a glitching moment, can never rid themselves of it. I've seen all sorts of enemies -animal, mutant or humanoid- get stuck in the wasteland. My compass still registers them as NPC's, but shooting them has no effect. Sometimes a quicksave/quickload can get them unstuck, but not always. When that happens I can only hope to reload a save before the glitch occurred. Just what is it that these things can occur at all -worse yet, why do they sometimes persist? Does the console offer a reset function? And if it does, would it solve this random glitching? Makes me wonder.....

 

http://newvegas.nexu...le.php?id=45104 this might be able to help you if you have a modded game. Sometimes mods will cause vanilla errors to develop that wouldn't normally happen. it's not listed on the fallout wiki as being a bug. usually if it's just a vanilla problem that happens in any version of the game the wiki pages will have a possible fix for the bug listed but I wasn't able to find anything corresponding to it. I'll keep checking the related wiki pages to see if I find anything for you. Let me know if this helps

 

Thanks. Mighty nice. Didn't know that about the Wiki page. I'm assuming FNV isn't the only moddable game that might display this type of bugs?

[formalrevya]

I've had this happen weirdly a few times, once when I was standing too close to the fence (the guards actually just started shooting at me after someone yelled "back to work")

 

Other times it seems I get the same issue as yourself. Jean Baptiste refuses to fire and the PC gets "stuck" in the cutscene.

 

Re loading before I had walked in and trying it again fixed it for me (eventually) just try standing in different spots in the first box made by the guards.

 

I had a feeling that EVE may cause this problem, but it has happened without EVE too, so, I'm at a loss for a real solution.

 

I thinks its a vanilla bug.

 

I concur. I don't know who or what EVE is -a mod probably- but it seems to me that FNV can glitch at any moment. Maybe some savegames made after a glitching moment, can never rid themselves of it. I've seen all sorts of enemies -animal, mutant or humanoid- get stuck in the wasteland. My compass still registers them as NPC's, but shooting them has no effect. Sometimes a quicksave/quickload can get them unstuck, but not always. When that happens I can only hope to reload a save before the glitch occurred. Just what is it that these things can occur at all -worse yet, why do they sometimes persist? Does the console offer a reset function? And if it does, would it solve this random glitching? Makes me wonder.....

 

http://newvegas.nexu...le.php?id=45104 this might be able to help you if you have a modded game. Sometimes mods will cause vanilla errors to develop that wouldn't normally happen. it's not listed on the fallout wiki as being a bug. usually if it's just a vanilla problem that happens in any version of the game the wiki pages will have a possible fix for the bug listed but I wasn't able to find anything corresponding to it. I'll keep checking the related wiki pages to see if I find anything for you. Let me know if this helps

 

Thanks. Mighty nice. Didn't know that about the Wiki page. I'm assuming FNV isn't the only moddable game that might display this type of bugs?

Well in general any game that has as high a level of detail put into as a game like new vegas or skyrim is going to be buggy by default. and some of these bugs don't show up until you start modding the game in ways the developers couldn't have predicted. and as the wiki only keeps up with vanilla game issues. it's hard to find any help when something does go wrong.

[DoomedMonarch]

So, I just want to point out that even after I fix the bug and it works, there seems to be some mod of unknown origin that causes some duplicated tables that are on fire and not standing in the upright pos. I will give a link to a screenshot at some near date/time and show you how screwed my data folder is..lol modding is fun AND scary!

Edited February 19, 2016 by ALCAPONE8642