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I'm getting constant freezing in the Soul Cairn. I tried installing the one mod on the nexus to help this issue, but to no avail. Any ideas? The only mod I can think of that would cause problems is Improved Closedface Helmets, but I've done this DLC on earlier playthroughs with the mod before, and without the crashes. *sigh* why can't Bethesda release games that aren't hot piles of buggy s#*! 5 years after release?

 

 

The mod I used: http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/21699/?tab=4&&navtag=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nexusmods.com%2Fskyrim%2Fajax%2Fcomments%2F%3Fmod_id%3D21699%26page%3D1%26sort%3DDESC%26pid%3D0%26thread_id%3D748221&pUp=1

 

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Good question. Maybe one day they will realize they are pushing their loyal customers away, but it is not this day!

 

Anywho, you should list out your mod list. If you are using LOOT, go to the 3 dots in the top right, click "Copy Load Order" and then paste it here in a spoiler. Just "spoiler" in brackets [ ] without quotations and then /spoiler in brackets after what you've pasted here.

 

Also note that whenever you move or remove mods from an active save, it can cause intermittent ctds.

Ensure that you are using an SKSE.ini as it helps with memory allocation. There are youtube videos how to do this.

 

Also, are you using NMM or MO (mod organizer)?

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Sorry about taking so long to get back to you. I'm using SKSE and MO.

 

Here's my mod list.

 

 

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1. Make sure you are using Aquisitive soul gems -multithreaded instead of the original as he mentions on his mod page. I am curious about your crashes being in the Soul Cairn due to the high number of soul giving enemies and fissures.
2. A lot of people have had bugs with Undeath. Perhaps try putting it very low in your list, probably somewhere near Alternate Start.
3. My general load order with MO is:

Skyrim
Update
Dawnguard
Hearthfire
Dragonborn
Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch
SKSE Scripts (make sure these are properly installed and if you don't have it, you better get it.)
[Any mods that are utilities] (Bug fixes, safety load, better messagebox controls,...)
[Custom Body Meshes]
[Custom Body Textures]
[All other ESPs]
[Animations]
[Custom Skeleton](Xp32mse,...)
Alternate Start
Bashed Patch (If using Wrye Bash)
Dual Sheath Patch (if Using it)
RSPatch (Last almost always)

With Mod organizer, as I'm sure you know, unlike NMM, you have to make sure your left pane matches the right. I will organize both my left and right panes in the above listed order, then run LOOT and make sure to hit Apply, then match the left pane to the right one that has been sorted with LOOT.

4. Keep in mind that whenever you move or delete a mod in an active save, it can cause CTDs. It could be that your problem is fixed. You will have to test it out on a new save.

5. I'm sure you have, but ensure that you've updated your FNIS and Bash Patch.

6. You have Lost Grimoire, Path of Sorcery, Forgotten Magic, and Apocalypse. I highly doubt all of these work together perfectly, but I guess I could be wrong in that. There are a lot of crazy effects happening in the soul cairn like teleportation and lightning strike, unique dragon breaths and various other things. Having all these touch on magic and possibly conflicting could also be causing your game issues. I'd pick one, maybe two if it says its compatible with it, but that's just me.

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