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  rob_b said:
  sarac said:
I just remembered,once i saw on news,that we have sent,rocket or some kind of satellite to space and if there are extraterrestrials,we will know somewhere around in 2012,2013 year...

Hmm... like decal pointed out, these is false claims, and either you misheard, or that news crew is composed of morons. If we did send something out into space, a probe or satellite say, you must realize that it would take decades to discover any sort of proof of extraterrestrial life.

 

It was the news crew. Definitely. Never trust a reporter. :P

 

 

Decades? I thought it would take longer than that.

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Traveling at the speed that our space probes take, it would take thousands of years to get from here to the other side of the galaxy, and that's just a strait line. If it searched everywhere, it would take millions, possibly billions of years.
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AH. That's what I thought, thanks Ninja! I don't currently believe that intelligent life exists outside of earth, for reasons others have already mentioned and other, personal beliefs I won't go into. I am open to the idea that it does, however.
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  ninja_lord666 said:
Traveling at the speed that our space probes take, it would take thousands of years to get from here to the other side of the galaxy, and that's just a strait line. If it searched everywhere, it would take millions, possibly billions of years.

I was unaware that we had faster-than-light propulsion. Or perhaps you miscalculated by a few orders of magnitude?

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Traveling at the speed that our space probes take, it would take thousands of years to get from here to the other side of the galaxy, and that's just a strait line. If it searched everywhere, it would take millions, possibly billions of years.

I was unaware that we had faster-than-light propulsion. Or perhaps you miscalculated by a few orders of magnitude?

To be honest, I just made up random numbers... :unsure:

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Yes, we're alone amidst a nearly endless expanse of other stars, and planets. Arguably, we're also suicidal, intent on either destroying the only planet we can live on right now, or trying to claim a small portion of it for whatever group we happen to be a part of. All this belief in other intelligent life is really there to keep us from realizing our own extreme stupidity... Afterall, if we were the only form of life in the universe, it'd be a pretty sick joke if we just ended dying off because of that stupidity.

 

On the flip side, people want to deny the possible existance of other life because they want to believe that the human race is some special thing which was created in the image of whatever diety, and will be protected by said diety. But they still insist on bringing conflict to anyone who does not share their beliefs.

 

If we are the only form of intelligent life in the universe, someone up there has obviously made a huge mistake.

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  Vagrant0 said:

So witch was your opinion?

 

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Yes, we're alone amidst a nearly endless expanse of other stars, and planets. Arguably, we're also suicidal, intent on either destroying the only planet we can live on right now, or trying to claim a small portion of it for whatever group we happen to be a part of. All this belief in other intelligent life is really there to keep us from realizing our own extreme stupidity... Afterall, if we were the only form of life in the universe, it'd be a pretty sick joke if we just ended dying off because of that stupidity.

I don't believe that we don't realize what we're doing here. I think we realize that well but this is all about business: we only care about our own wealth and think that f*** that if our kids live in ruined world. We're already dead that so it's not our problem.

 

The believing to intelligent aliens and trying to learn if they exist is fascinating itself. There is no need for other reasons but the interest to research outer space.

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I think most people believe that there is something or someone out there, but, I'd agree with ninja that the probability of beings likened to us is fairly low. Even lower still would be the chance that a truly intelligent or at least extremely inventive race would travel hundreds, thousands or millions of light years just to pay us a visit. I don't hold truck with crop circles as being evidence of us being visited. Nor, are the Nazca lines a runway or indicative that our ancestors had contact with extraterrestrials.

 

It's been proven several times that people created many of the crop circles, and most likely all of them. And, the monuments our ancestors left behind, which can only be fully seen from the sky are just messages to their long dead gods to pay homage.

 

I truly believe there is life scattered in many many forms throughout the universe. If you take it from a purely evolutionary point of view and the vast diversity of life on our own world in every imaginable habitat, how can life NOT exist elsewhere?

 

The ego of man is truly incredible, if you think about it. Regardless of each individuals' personal beliefs, as a whole, we consider ourselves to be either above all other life as we know it, or are important enough to attract the attention of higher life forms.

 

 

 

 

 

I liked the reference to ants, as well. I don't believe they would be 'more' intelligent, but on par with us. There are certain species which sole purpose is to wage war on other species and to enslave them, oddly reminiscent of our own behavior from the past and even today.

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